Black/AA Spiritualist Churches and Temples

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  1. xoxodede

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    You didn't! You added to it :smile:

    Holiness and the Spirtualism/Spiritualist movement was one of the same to me.

    A few differences I know for myself were...

    We had no images of dieties - Jesus or anyone else in our temple. Especially, nothing with white people. Even our bibles were no pictures inside. All the key members wore white every service - and so did most of the congregation.

    We only read the old testament.

    We also believe that the spirit of God lives within you. In order to connect with the most high daily meditation and internal/silent prayer is required.

    The main one is we believe heaven and hell are projections of the mind.

    The only time we saw people get the animated was when someone was doing a healing or sometimes they would call someone out the congregation to pray over them.

    That was because they said the spirit said the "enemy is in our home."

    Which meant somebody had spiritual attachments and/or called out a name of a specific demonic spirits.

    Of course my daddy didnt like my mom's church and said they were crazy....lol
     
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    We had the straight up BeeGees looking Jesus near the entry of the church... and biblical murals inside the sanctuary

    COGIC churches "shout'..during choir songs.....which is an animated demonstrative prayer/dance.As kids we hated it because we saw it as acting. We felt the same way when church members would speak in tongues.

     
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    I know exactly the picture you are talking about. I love COGIC churches.

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    Have you read The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America by Edward J. Blum and Paul Harvey

    It was pretty good.




    The C.O.W.S. even interviewed one of the authors.

     
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    Wasn't familiar with the title, thanks. I do remember the Rev. Jeremiah Wright doing a piece about impact and use of the image of Christ during slavery in America. Going to search for it....it was for a weekly pbs show called Religion & Ethics.

    There was an HBO special that aired decades ago, collection of AA short films.
    Have you ever seen this one, The Boy Who Painted Christ Black?....starring Wesley Snipes, Jasmine Guy & Vanssa Bell Calloway............written by John Henrike Clark.

     
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    Thanks! I haven't - going to watch asap. Mr. Clarke was from my fathers hometown.
     
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    This one is kinda different....

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    Marcelino Manuel da Graça
    Marcelino Manuel da Graça (January 25, 1881 or 1884—January 12, 1960), better known as Charles Manuel "Sweet Daddy" Grace, or Daddy Grace, was the founder and first bishop of the predominantly African-American denomination the United House of Prayer For All People.[1] He was a contemporary of other religious leaders such as Father Divine, Noble Drew Ali and Ernest Holmes. Daddy Grace, an innovative Christian evangelist, faith healer, pastor and bishop, used his unique worship style to birth a distinctive religious institution on the American scene. Many of his followers claimed miraculous acts of faith healing while attending services and others saw his ministry as a sign from God of the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

    Marcelino Manuel da Graça's parents were Manuel (1837–1926) and Gertrude (1847–1933) da Graça. Marcelino da Graça's sibling group consisted of one brother, Benventura, and four sisters: Eugenia, Slyvia, Amalia, and Louise. He was born January 25, in Brava in the Cape Verde Islands, then a Portuguese possession off the west coast of Africa.[2] There is no verifiable information to confirm Grace's exact birth year, but most sources either state 1881 or 1884. The family of Manuel da Graca, the father of Marcelino, arrived in America at the port of New Bedford, Massachusetts, aboard a ship called the Freeman in May 1902. It is unclear whether Marcelino was aboard the ship in 1902, but ship manifests show that he visited America in 1903, and in 1904 he came as a cabin passenger aboard the schooner called Luiza.

    Marcelino Grace married twice. His first wife was Jane "Jennie" Lomba, a Cape Verdean woman also known as Jennie Lombard. They were married in 1909. She bore Grace a daughter, Irene, in 1910 and son, Norman in 1912. Norman died in 1947. Whether they officially divorced was disputed. His second wife was Angelina (Montano) Grace, of Mexican descent, whom he married in 1932. She bore him a son, Marcelino, in 1935. They divorced in 1937.

    In her book Daddy Grace, Marie W. Dallam notes that the entire da Graca family were Roman Catholics in their homeland and opened up to different forms of the Christian experience once they immigrated to the United States. The US-based Protestant Church of the Nazarene was the first non-Catholic Christian church to establish a mission in Cape Verde in 1900.

    Benventura da Graça, the brother of Marcelino, would later become a Church of the Nazarene pastor in the US. Marcelino, however, was said inside the da Graça family (according to the research done by Dallam) to have always been a "special child". Unlike the conventional ministry of his brother, he went on to establish a unique and independent Christian ministry. After becoming a famous bishop it was recounted that as a youth he had received a commission to preach directly from God.



     
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    this is what the dvd boxcover looks like

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    3-4 shorts........The one written by JHC is the only I've ever watched...
     
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    What does that mean? Were they curing the sick with touch and prayer
     
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    That is what they claimed to be doing.

    It was one person or a few people laying hands on the person. They would pray specific scriptures and prayers (Psalms being the main ones).

    They would apply some type of blessing oil as well - and they would aggressively call out/cast out the sickness/spirit. They person would usually start coughing, sometimes convulsing and spitting up.
     
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    I just want you to know that the signs of the "Anti-Christ" were supposed to be claims to heal folks by simply touching them, or thru prayer. Or who claimed other miraculous un-explainable feats. You cannot make a blind man see by simply touching him\her. You cannot heal leprosy with a touch. So you were certainly in the company of charlatans.
     
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    Thanks for the advice!
     
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    @xoxodede

    Did you attend multiple churches growing up or do you know of COGIC through visiting other churches?
    I ask because in my experience, people's knowledge of churches is usually limited to the denomination church that they grew up in (which they followed in adulthood).
    You instantly knew about the connections/similiarities between the church you grew up in and COGIC churches, though.
     
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    That was their interpretation of the bible, though. I know the exact verses you are talking about. I've heard the verses and passages used in defense of such practices also.
    I think the basis of the different Protestant denominations were their own readings and interpretations of scripture.

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    I went to church with my Uncles a few times a year or for certain holiday programs with my cousins. They attended a COGIC church.

    But, I grew up in two churches back home - I think that led me to being really confused when I was younger. That's why I don't do a specific religion.

    My dad went to a Baptist Church and my mom -- a Spiritual church.

    Even when I went to Alabama in the summers - I split my time between two towns -- and I realized both sides of my family did different things there too.

    My maternal Great Grannie and 2nd GG were mid-wives --- and so was my Great Aunt I used to stay with during the summer in Alabama. She didn't go to Church - but was very spiritual-- and I would go to the Cemetery with her everyday to give offerings and sit, eat and/or talk.

    On Sundays, I used to go with my maternal Grandfather (Peanut/Pecan Sharecropper) to my family's AME church - started by my 3rd GGFather after emancipation.

    The other half of my summers I stayed with my paternal Granddad who was a Sharecropper too - and they were Baptist and we went to Church almost everyday - cause it was nothing else to do there.
     
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    Any of these in Florida :patrice:
     
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