Black birder celebrity Jason Ward accused of rape

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Gang violence...
:russ: Not to make light of a serious topic--but I couldn't help but think of this.
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https://www.themarysue.com/steve-urkel-was-a-creep/
he was seen as the poster child for this :mjlol:
 

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Interesting in what way?
Hmm how to say this right.

Everything in her posts points to them being in the start of a relationship (except sex), kissing, pet names etc. etc. It SEEMS she grew comfortable with him shortly after meeting, and agreeing to dating, then they spent a lot of time together-- which was extremely secluded....alone in the woods. Then......BAM two weeks later he rapes her. They leave that incident..........together, keep talking, keep face timing, she made him a playlist--so on and so forth.

Dude seems like he was pushing the boundaries 100%, and went too far. Her re-telling of the story is just..........strange, and it doesn't make 100% sense (not saying shes lying or exaggerating). Strange situation from top to bottom. Hopefully she's OK.
 

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Someone very very close to me had nonconsensual sex in a manner similar to this. She was platonic friends, there was no romantic or physical aspect to the relationship, he initiated sex with her at a vulnerable time and she was going through severe clinical depression and at the moment just basically gave up on life rather than fighting back.

If she had told me at the time, rather than 5+ years later when I had no idea where to locate him anymore, he would have been eating out of a straw for a while. Justifying that is some pathetic shyt. You don't just initiate sex with someone you're not even dating, when they've been clear that you're not dating, when they're not being responsive back in any way. (And in her case, to do it with someone who you know is severely depressed and vulnerable is some horrible shyt.)



We live in a society that says men have to initiate everything. The initial contact. The exchange of numbers. The first date. First kiss. Sex. Marriage. I just think it's intellectually dishonest to take something as complex and nuanced as human interaction and and apply a black and white label to events influenced by emotions. I know people like to pretend online, but the vast majority of guys have had to play this "cat and mouse" game with women. Many of them marry those same women and have children.
We also live in a society that makes very, very clear that you have to have the woman's permission before you initiate. I mean, this happened in fukking 2020. Come on now.

It's not hard to ask. Men who think they'll get turned down if they ask shouldn't be having sex. :francis:

If you really want a way out for men though, then wait till marriage and you won't have these problems. :yeshrug:
 
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Someone very very close to me had nonconsensual sex in a manner similar to this. She was platonic friends, there was no romantic or physical aspect to the relationship, he initiated sex with her at a vulnerable time and she was going through severe clinical depression and at the moment just basically gave up on life rather than fighting back.

If she had told me at the time, rather than 5+ years later when I had no idea where to locate him anymore, he would have been eating out of a straw for a while. Justifying that is some pathetic shyt. You don't just initiate sex with someone you're not even dating, when they've been clear that you're not dating, when they're not being responsive back in any way. (And in her case, to do it with someone who you know is severely depressed and vulnerable is some horrible shyt.)




We also live in a society that makes very, very clear that you have to have the woman's permission before you initiate. I mean, this happened in fukking 2020. Come on now.

It's not hard to ask. Men who think they'll get turned down if they ask shouldn't be having sex. :francis:

If you really want a way out for men though, then wait till marriage and you won't have these problems. :yeshrug:
I hear you. But she isn't your friend. You don't know her. They had a two month relationship and we don't know all the details besides her narrative, a few curated screenshots, and a medical diagnosis dated a week after the incident. You're a grown man. If I'm not mistaken you may have even mentioned being married (?). Don't be dishonest and act like you have recorded consent from every woman you've been intimate with. The year is irrelevant outside of the fact that trial by the court of public opinion is at the height of its powers thanks to social media. Aisha deserves our support. But Jason also deserves the chance to defend himself.
 

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I hear you. But she isn't your friend. You don't know her. They had a two month relationship and we don't know all the details besides her narrative, a few curated screenshots, and a medical diagnosis dated a week after the incident. You're a grown man. If I'm not mistaken you may have even mentioned being married (?). Don't be dishonest and act like you have recorded consent from every woman you've been intimate with. The year is irrelevant outside of the fact that trial by the court of public opinion is at the height of its powers thanks to social media. Aisha deserves our support. But Jason also deserves the chance to defend himself.

Of course he deserves the chance to defend himself, if anything in the narrative is out of line. The post I was responding to appeared to take her account for granted and justify his behavior anyway.

If her account is accurate, then what he did was horrifically stupid and violent. Like I said, in 2020 if you haven't figured out to get clear approval from a woman before shoving your dikk in her then you are dense as fukk. Society has not been at all unclear with that message in the last three years.
 

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"Rape" is too strong of a word for this situation. "I don't think we should be doing this" could have been mistaken for her playing coy. Ultimately they shouldn't have been dating each other. If you're an asexual person that is practicing celibacy, you shouldn't be dating a person that clearly has shown they desire sex. Vice versa if you're a sexual person, you shouldn't be dating someone that doesn't want to have sex. She could have left the relationship long before it got to that point.
 
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