Thats why voting is important, especially this year with Thomas and alito up in age and u can replace them with 2 democrats and then go back and reverse all these anti black policies
Black college admissions falling from 13% to 5% at M.I.T
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Rick Fox at UNC
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This is an awful take even considering how bad your track record is.
1) Did you say that MIT is not worth the cost, not knowing that MIT is as cheap or cheaper than a state school for the vast majority of Black students? If your family makes under $140,000, tuition is absolutely free. If your family makes under $75,000, you don't pay a single cent for tuition, room and board, books, fees, or anything. 86% of MIT seniors graduate with zero college debt and the remaining 14% average about $15,000 in loans each.
Meanwhile, the median MIT graduate with a B.S. is going to make $126k his first year....which I'm sure just any state school will match on a regular basis.
2) Did you say that Harvard connections are priceless while MIT connections are worthless, not even knowing that MIT admittance also gives you admittance into Harvard courses and MIT students can take up to half of their yearly courseload at Harvard, for free? Not to mention the Harvard students who are cross-enrolled into their MIT courses. MIT students not only have access to MIT connections, they can also cultivate Harvard connections to a significant degree.
3) Not to mention that your claim about the worthlessness of an elite STEM education is utter idiocy for STEM fields outside of computer programming, which you've made clear is the only field you know anything about, and even for that field isn't actually true. Besides the incredible level of education offered at MIT and the work ethic they help you to develop, just having the degree in hand opens doors virtually everywhere and will get you in a good position literally right out of the gate. Whereas someone who chooses another route will have to independently fight and perform to impress themselves upon employers and work their way up.
This thread is filled with poor takes, but I'll try and break everything down a bit while I wait for this load of laundry to finish.
I can revise my statement a bit, the vast majority of high-school kids (black or otherwise) are far better off focusing on attending their local state school. As I said, the vast majority would be better off attending community college for two years and transferring to their flagship state school. They would do better both socially and economically.
I would argue the vast majority will get more out of attending Eastern Washington or Northern Arizona than they would trying to grind out MIT or paying for Stanford.
Life isn't Good Will Hunting where some genius just appears and is able to solve graph theory problems without much effort.
A girl I used to rock with (I wanted to marry her, still do), attended MIT undergrad/grad. She went to a magnet school tailored for pre-engineering majors. She told me the school had a handful of kids that qualified for free lunch, less than 5. She was taking college courses her junior and senior years. The school was located on a community college campus and had a track record of sending kids to MIT. That means her parents had a plan for her, her community had a plan for her, and her school had a plan for her. Everything in her life was setup for her to attend MIT or a similarly competitive college.
When she graduated, I was like, "congrats, you're amazing," the first thing she acknowledged was, "it took a lot of people for me to do this."
If you have that kind of support system, and you have the grades, and you can get in, please attend MIT. Most kids simply do not and most kids should not be focused on that.
An elite STEM education? Listen, MIT isn't teaching a different version of calculus and linear algebra. You can look at 18.01/18.06 online and see for yourself. Studying MechE at University of Florida Honors College isn't vastly academically different than studying MechE at MIT.
Google recruits from community colleges and state universities. So do hedge funds, so does Honeywell, and GE. So does Apple, so does Intel, so does whatever other firm you want to name. I mean, they have to.
Since the vast majority of even extremely driven kids in say, California, do not attend MIT, Stanford or CalTech, what the hell do you think they're doing? Giving up? No, they fill up UC San Diego, UC Irvine, Cal Poly, and UC Santa Cruz. They hit up Cal State Long Beach. A lot of them attend De Anza or Santa Monica College and transfer to a state school. They hit University of Arizona, University of Oregon, and Washington State.
My overall point is, stop focusing on what is happening with 1000 kids.
None of this is true, especially over the last decade. The majority of employees at "big tech" companies did not attend M.I.T.
The majority of them studied (especially undergrad) at schools like the University of Washington or Georgia Tech. Some at Carnegie Mellon, Stanford or MIT.
Breh, nowhere in here did you admit that you were pushing straight falsehoods about the cost of an MIT education and the value of an MIT education. Literally everything you claimed in your statement was wrong, and suggested that you know almost nothing about MIT.
Meaningless statement because the vast majority of high school kids are not going to get into MIT under any circumstances.
I hope she's aware of how much you look down on women.
The kids who don't have that kind of support system don't get into MIT in the first place, generally. Exceptions are extremely rare.
The difference is the rigor and the people you're surrounded by. They force you to accomplish things that you would never have accomplished somewhere else because the professors don't think the students are capable or don't think they're willing to work hard enough. You go to every class and then study six hours after dinner every single day because you absolutely have to in order to keep up. You begin to understand ways to do things that you never would have reached otherwise because the problems are harder and the people you're studying with are more brilliant. And employers KNOW that - while everyone else is entering the workforce to do the hardest work of their lives, they know you as an MIT grad have already done the hardest work you're going to do and the actual job is relatively easy in comparison.
What is the point of this statement? The racist conservative-driven exodus of Black kids from elite colleges is just fine because....their student body populations are small?
Rick Fox at UNC
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That was my whole point.
Honestly, I'm not sure you have an argument or a point. Seems like you're upset about some other conversation we had. I don't remember you, you clearly remember me.
But hey, you got it.
* You said "MIT isn't worth the price tag" even though they basically pay you to go there.
* Then you claimed "a lot of folks are paying for a license plate holder that says Stanford or MIT on it" even though MIT grads have among the highest financial success of any school in the country.
* And you claimed that students should go to Ivy Leagues for the connections, but that going to MIT is worthless, even though MIT and Harvard students attend classes together and you can get a load of Harvard connections immediately the moment you get to MIT.
Nice job trying to juelz your way out of all of those awful takes though.
You've made numerous posts degrading women and claiming that they are inferior to men in almost every way possible, especially intellectually. You have frequently used your position in the STEM world as your cred when making these ridiculous anti-women posts, even though you've said other things that make your tech cred suspicious to say the least.
So it's just interesting to see you posting on a different STEM topic while speaking complete and utter nonsense.....does a lot to show how seriously your takes about women in STEM should be taken.
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At 2 Elite Colleges, Shifts in Racial Makeup After Affirmative Action Ban
Amherst College and Tufts University saw drops in the number of Black students after a Supreme Court decision ending affirmative action. At other schools, the picture is murkier.
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down to 3%no paywall: archive.ph/j46s0At 2 Elite Colleges, Shifts in Racial Makeup After Affirmative Action Ban
Amherst College and Tufts University saw drops in the number of Black students after a Supreme Court decision ending affirmative action. At other schools, the picture is murkier.www.nytimes.com
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Interesting. The one constant is that Black enrollment has dropped at all of the schools that provided numbers. Again, I would love to see the number of admitted Black students versus the number of Black applicants. Did that number drop? Are the kids deciding to go the HBCU route across the board? Just saying...if I'm comfortable enough to apply to MIT, it's a good chance I'm getting in my 2nd - 4th choicesno paywall: archive.ph/j46s0At 2 Elite Colleges, Shifts in Racial Makeup After Affirmative Action Ban
Amherst College and Tufts University saw drops in the number of Black students after a Supreme Court decision ending affirmative action. At other schools, the picture is murkier.
no paywall: archive.ph/j46s0At 2 Elite Colleges, Shifts in Racial Makeup After Affirmative Action Ban
Amherst College and Tufts University saw drops in the number of Black students after a Supreme Court decision ending affirmative action. At other schools, the picture is murkier.
down to 3%
All those "but it's only 1000 kids at MIT" takes are looking stupid when we're seeing the same trends across the country.
How many extra HBCU slots were available at HBCUs that are competitive enough to attract the top graduates? Yeah, some of them went to Morehouse, Spelman, Clark Atlanta, Howard, Hampton, maybe Florida A&M.....but after that?
The majority of Black kids who got denied from elite schools didn't end up at HBCU's, then ended up at middle-tier liberal arts colleges and state schools.
I'm not sure that's true in this climate.
Considering the numbers we're seeing, I'd bet there are Black kids who applied to MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, Michigan and Georgia Tech but didn't get accepted to any of them.. Maybe they got into Purdue or Rose-Hulman.
I disagree with this assessment. If you have the guidance to apply to MIT I’m willing to bet those kids still ended up at great universities. Since most of these universities target and get applicants from the northeast there’s a good chance these kids ended up at Pitt, UConn, Stonybrook, University Of Maryland or high level private universities like Boston university, Boston college, NYU, etc
That bum is a full blooded c00n now.But wait....Tariq said this wouldn't affect us....I'm confused
He’s on the internet trying create wars between black people. Imagine hating Caribbeans and Africans so much that you dikk ride white supremacists
Disgusting person
Treacherous c00ns.
Our opportunities and our rights are being openly taken by Republicans and some mentally challenged Black folk claim they support Trump.
Or pretend to be #bothsides when they are actually MAGAts.
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But wait....Tariq said this wouldn't affect us....I'm confused
I'm still waiting on the spin that shows how this hurt white women more than black people as a whole.