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Jameis can legit be the face of the NFL in a few years, well if that rape thing can be cleared up.
It's been cleared with Law enforcement, FSU, and most NFL GMs. I don't know what else beside the bytch coming out saying she was lying.

But this bombshell dropped today(Nobody is reporting this tho)

http://chopchat.com/2015/02/22/kinsmans-attorney-wanted-insurance-policy-jameis-winston/

Despite denials by Erica Kinsman’s legal team of any financial motivations in their case against Jameis Winston, new documents show Patricia Carroll wanted an insurance policy taken out on Jameis Winston in January of 2014, “to protect her client’s interests in the event he gets injured this year.”

In documents that were recently turned over to ChopChat, the firm representing Winston — Gordon & Rees — in an email to FSU General Counsel Carolyn A. Egan, outlines the January-February 2014 extortion attempt by attorney Patricia Carroll on behalf of Erica Kinsman.

Kinsman, who recently went public by giving an interview in an upcoming documentary about sexual assault on college campuses, alleges that she was raped by Jameis Winston early in the morning of December 7, 2012.

In the 26 months since, a State Attorney investigation and an FSU Code of Conduct hearing — presided over by retired state supreme court justice Major Harding — have not found enough to charge with Winston with a crime or find him guilty of a CoC violation.

However that has not deterred Kinsman and her legal team, who have already filed suit against Florida State University and will likely do the same against Winston when he signs his first pro contract.

And based on the documents turned over to ChopChat, it would appear that was the plan all along.

In an email to FSU General Counsel Carolyn Egan dated October 9, 2014, Jameis Winston’s attorney, David Cornwell, outlines the timeline events which led up to Patricia Carroll demanding seven million dollars from Winston in exchange for Erica Kinsman’s silence. He also attaches documentation for his claim and offers to make available the means by which FSU may verify his claims:

Recognizing that Ms. Kinsman’s attorneys will say just about anything, we will make available to FSU the originals of the documents referred to herein for forensic analysis to confirm their authenticity and the fact that they were created contemporaneously with the events they describe, subject to FSU abiding by my firm’s privacy guidelines. We will also make our phone records available to FSU. By providing these documents and records to FSU, neither Mr. Winston nor Gordon & Rees waives the attorney client, attorney work product, or any other privileges – all of which are hereby reserved.

Per the documentation, following Carroll’s December 2013 press conference and a subsequent January interview with ABC News in which she states, “absolutely you’re gonna see a civil suit, I want heads to roll.” Cornwell reaches out to Carroll through associate Benjamin Levine to notify her that Gordon & Rees was authorized to be served with the lawsuit Carroll was threatening on Winston’s behalf:

In response to Ms. Carroll’s public threat to sue Mr. Winston, Mr. Cornwell was concerned that Ms. Carroll would try to create a media event out of serving Mr. Winston with a complaint in her lawsuit. To avoid the same media circus as she created at her press conference, Mr. Cornwell directed his associate, Benjamin Levine, Esq., to call Ms. Carroll to inform her that Gordon & Rees was authorized to accept service of the complaint in the lawsuit she threatened to file the day before. (Email dated January 9, 2014 attached as Exhibit C)

Four days later, Carroll responds and attempts to initiate settlement talks. The following day, on January 14, 2014, Levine, at Cornwell’s instruction, gets in touch with Carroll again and informs her “that Mr. Cornwell would not respond to her proposal without a better understanding of the claims Ms. Kinsman believed she had against Mr. Winston and the damages Ms. Kinsman would be seeking.”

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It is at this point the seven million dollar figure comes up.

In an internal Gordon & Rees memorandum dated January 14, 2014, Levine outlines the specifics of the call.

After establishing some background at the beginning of the memo, Levine writes:

Today, I informed Carroll that we were not in a position to respond to her request for pre-suit mediation, but an outline of her client’s potential claims/damages would be helpful. She was very forthright with her plans (if they are to be believed). Carroll feels her client has three independently strong cases:

  1. Against Florida State University (“FSU”) (Title 9 Claim) Under Florida Law a Plaintiff has to file a “768” letter in order to sue a state municipality within 6 months prior to filing suit. This letter becomes public record, and will outline the allegations against Winston.
  2. Against Tallahassee Police Department (“TPD”) (1983 claim)
  3. Against Jameis Winston (“Winston”)
Carroll is requesting $7,000,000 from Winston for her client to not go forward with any of the three potential lawsuits. Her thought process is that Winston would be covering FSU and TPD’s liability because by forgoing all three potential lawsuits, Winston would avoid any of the allegations being made public. She also is concerned that if we did a confidentiality agreement with the accuser as part of any settlement, her client would be unable to testify against FSU or TPD. Carroll also would want us to get an insurance policy on Winston or something to that effect to protect her client’s interests in the event he gets injured this year.

A paragraph later Levine also adds:

Carroll expects to file her lawsuit against Winston in roughly 60 days if a pre-suit settlement is not reached.

For the next nine days Levine continued to speak with Carroll, refusing to engage in settlement talks but ultimately setting a meeting date for February 10, 2014 while making an agreement with Carroll that she will not speak to the media during this time.

On January 24th — ten days later — Carroll attempts another tact and reaches out to Gordon & Rees again seeking a counter offer. In a January 24th email to Cornwell, Levine writes:

Patricia tried to fish around for a number, but I told her we were not there yet. It is very apparent she hopes to settle. She made a strange comment as our call was ending that, “by the way if we settle you will never hear from my client or me again, in the press or anywhere.”

Unfortunately for Carroll — and Kinsman — Winston’s team refused to settle. Shortly after, John Clune and Baine Kerr took over the case and Carroll all but disappeared. In the months since the two Colorado-based attorneys have attempted to deny Cornwell’s claim that Carroll attempted to extort Winston– even flipping the narrative and accusing Cornwell and Winston of initiating the talks.

This would seem to indicate otherwise.

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fukk it pull the trigger Jerry :wow:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ys-requested-shoulder-check-on-jameis-winston


INDIANAPOLIS -- The NFL club that requested an electromyography be performed on former Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston's throwing shoulder at the NFL Scouting Combine was the Dallas Cowboys, and the results of the exam showed no issue, according to NFL Media's Albert Breer.

Winston threw impressively at the combine on Saturday and insisted in his media interview that he felt fine.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Friday that weakness around a nerve in Winston's shoulder was detected by a doctor during his combine medical exam, and that he went to the hospital for additional testing. Winston's baseball career was apparently the culprit. Winston pitched as a closer out of the bullpen for the FSU baseball team and compiled a 1.08 ERA over 33 innings for the Seminoles last year.

According to Breer, the condition of Winston's shoulder is normal for pitchers, and Winston hasn't had a typical offseason football recovery.
Winston is expected to be drafted long before the Cowboys pick at No. 27, but nobody can say the club doesn't do its due diligence in evaluating the draft's top quarterbacks. At last year's combine, Dallas made Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel one of its 60 formal combine interviews, andCowboys owner Jerry Jones was not pleased that the team missed out on Manziel in the draft.
 

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And still was not a better quarterback than Warren Moon. Rich Gannon also won an MVP

McNair replaced Moon as Houston/Tenn QB and took that franchise farther than Moon ever did.

Moon played in a pass happy offense. While McNair played in a balance offense with Eddie George.

McNair teams had less talent than Moon 90’s teams. And McNair still got farther and won a MVP with that less talent.
 

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McNair replaced Moon as Houston/Tenn QB and took that franchise farther than Moon ever did.

Moon played in a pass happy offense. While McNair played in a balance offense with Eddie George.

McNair teams had less talent than Moon 90’s teams. And McNair still got farther and won a MVP with that less talent.
SO? he wasn't a better QB than Moon. Was no where near the passer. moon excelled even when he left that gimmick offense and was old as fukk.

McNair isn't in Moons league
 

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Warren Moon old ass had better years with the vikings AND the Seahawks than McNair had for his career. Dude never threw for 4000 yards in a season for his career and you're pairing him up with Warren. :childplease:
 

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Warren Moon old ass had better years with the vikings AND the Seahawks than McNair had for his career. Dude never threw for 4000 yards in a season for his career and you're pairing him up with Warren. :childplease:

He played in pass happy offenses.

Your passing yards argument is like saying Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana. Because Marino had more passing yards each season. :francis:
 

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He played in pass happy offenses.

Your passing yards argument is like saying Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana. Because Marino had more passing yards each season. :francis:
Seattle was a pass happy offense when he was on his last legs and still put up better numbers?

Come on. mcNair "music city miracled" his way to a super bowl run you're bigging up, THATS what tips McNair over Moon on the scales? :childplease:

fukk outta here with that overrated run you're using as a wack ass trump card.

And FYI...marino wasmt surrounded by HOFamers like Joe my dude.

Don't use Joe Montana to big up McNair.
 
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Come on brothas it is all about black excellence at the QB. We don't need to say who is better cause if it wasn't for moon there would be no McNair and if it wasn't for McNair there would be no Wilson. McNair stood on moons shoulder just like moon stood on James Harris shoulders.

All these broth as need to be :salute:for what they accomplished in the face of racism and teams not giving them the support that their white counterparts got.
 

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trading Romo for Winston :mjlol:

coli is eating up the hype something serious. i hope Winston will be successful but got dam if the coli isnt filled with dikkriders
 

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Jamies da GOAT


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Jameis about to be the best black qb since mcnair :banderas:

My boy lives in Tampa and got season tix...got me one for Dallas vs jameis :wow:

The one with Gruden is gon be :whew:

You can tell Mooch did everything in his power to trip him up. All these cacs went into this combine to try their hardest to poke holes in the "Jameis should go #1" narrative and they all left in love. I remember during one of the throws yesterday, while no commentary was going on, one of those cacs couldn't control himself any longer and just blurted out "this kid is fantastic". All the while my Boosie listening, chain swanging, arrogant, and charasmatic qb kept a "smile on his face and left with a victory"!....:to:
we've been so blessed these past 2 years....i wish i could post my FB post during the 2nd quarter of the Pitt game when I called he'd win the Heisman and be the #1 pick....folks told me I was crazy
Damm that's a tough one, I know the Bucs O-Line is just sus, but man would I be tempted to take DGB there and pair him Evans as the Twin Towers. Any other time I'd go with DGB cuz a young QB can never have too many weapons.

Cam would prolly be the pick cuz dude dude has the talent to be a franchise LT and we need a LT badly.

I'm hopin' Greene falls to the top of the 3rd and we can grab him there. Him in the slot would be great and he'd take over for VJax after a year or 2
honestly, I think Cam would excel at Center more than LT...if you looking to boost your interior line, I'd grab Hart in the 4th or 5th. Can't pass block consistently worth a damn but the boy can run block with the best of them
 
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