Black Google Engineer "Google hires the whitest black candidates"

[Reality]

What makes her the arbiter is that she is a part of the culture and is speaking on her experience working at Google. There’s a million different variables and exceptions but there are African-Americans who subscribe to White American culture and she has the right to make an observation about said population.

These people’s subscription to that culture may be of no fault of their own but it’s not the observer’s job to have empathy, especially when these people can be used as tokens to delegitimize actual African-American issues.

At the end of the day only hiring African-Americans who walk, talk, and act similar to White Americans is problematic. It highlights how these structures have a disdain for African-Americans and merely tolerate us for optics.

But what does it mean to "walk, talk, and act similar to White Americans"? Are we really expecting to be able to use slang in meetings? In front of clients? Etc.? Or is it having to be able to talk about skiing on the weekends, going golfing, playing tennis, etc.? This gets fuzzy very quickly.

 

[EBK String]

soooooo....those particular types of black folks dont deserve to have jobs? is that what this post is aobut?

it's about the majority of black ppl not having a chance at the same position because they dont remind white people of themselves.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Respect to her for putting her name on it. Hopefully it doesn’t affect her professional career.

you can't be serious?

 

[86\*/98]

I thought it was cool they mentioned this in watch dogs 2. "Code switching" and everything

Whoa! I haven’t been a gamer since GTA San Andreas but this made want to pick up the sticks.

 

[Houston911]

I got a thread coming soon on this

I put together a top research team and discovered that 88 percent of black affirmative action beneficiaries are either:

• Whitewashed
• Biracial
• Interracial daters/future caucasians
• Come from a 2 parent home where both parents have a college degree and good incomes (this is not as big of an issue as the others but it is an issue)

The programs means to help blacks almost NEVER help the people who deserve/need it

 

[gho3st]

I got a thread coming soon on this

I put together a top research team and discovered that 88 percent of black affirmative action beneficiaries are either:

• Whitewashed
• Biracial
• Interracial daters/future caucasians
• Come from a 2 parent home where both parents have a college degree and good incomes (this is not as big of an issue as the others but it is an issue)

The programs means to help blacks almost NEVER help the people who deserve/need it

Bruh. It’s deeper than that. The problem is a lot of times black people have no knowledge about those programs

 

[Houston911]

Bruh. It’s deeper than that. The problem is a lot of times black people have no knowledge about those programs

Yes and no

That doesn’t change anything I said my brotha

The first 3 groups I mentioned should not benefit from these programs

 

[Deuterion]

But what does it mean to "walk, talk, and act similar to White Americans"? Are we really expecting to be able to use slang in meetings? In front of clients? Etc.? Or is it having to be able to talk about skiing on the weekends, going golfing, playing tennis, etc.? This gets fuzzy very quickly.

Why are you associating our speech patterns with slang? Why can Bostonians speak their dialect and be perfectly respected but when African-Americans speak ours it’s slang? If a Bostonian says “Cah Keeze” or “Bang a Uey” in a meeting no one flinches but when an African-American says “Axe” instead of Ask they are considered unintelligent.

I don’t know you but you’re sounding like a hit dog that’s hollering. This article called you out and you didn’t like it because it made you feel insecure about your lack of connection to the culture. You associate White with right and you made it clear when you assumed I wanted to speak slang by saying that I don’t want to have to talk like White people. At the end of the day African-American culture is very respectful...our hair, our dialect of English, our method of salutation with the upward head nod, our hand shakes, and all that is respectable but Corporate America hates it and asks for us to leave it at the door in order to get a job.

What we are simply saying is “why do I have to leave it at the door”. Why do I have to walk, talk, and act like y’all to be considered acceptable?

 

[Houston911]

People wanna juelz around this point but it’s the truth. I see this every day in my line of work.

You hate to see it. I’m getting to the age now where I gotta call a spade a spade. If you c00ning you c00ning.

People know exactly what the writer is referring to in this article but will skirt around the point she’s trying to make.

Dudes love to play dumb

Thwy know EXACTLY what she’s talking about

 

[JesusFOREVER]

Y’all really expect pookie n ray ray to get jobs at google?

 

[Houston911]

Y’all really expect pookie n ray ray to get jobs at google?

Is there no middle ground between "pookie and ray ray" and the "black" dude with the nasally voice who has all white friends, only dates white women, eats sushi 3 times a week, prefers surfing over basketball and only goes to white bars?

Pookie and ray ray >>>>>>>

 

[Reality]

Why are you associating our speech patterns with slang? Why can Bostonians speak their dialect and be perfectly respected but when African-Americans speak ours it’s slang? If a Bostonian says “Cah Keeze” or “Bang a Uey” in a meeting no one flinches but when an African-American says “Axe” instead of Ask they are considered unintelligent.

I don’t know you but you’re sounding like a hit dog that’s hollering. This article called you out and you didn’t like it because it made you feel insecure about your lack of connection to the culture. You associate White with right and you made it clear when you assumed I wanted to speak slang by saying that I don’t want to have to talk like White people. At the end of the day African-American culture is very respectful...our hair, our dialect of English, our method of salutation with the upward head nod, our hand shakes, and all that is respectable but Corporate America hates it and asks for us to leave it at the door in order to get a job.

What we are simply saying is “why do I have to leave it at the door”. Why do I have to walk, talk, and act like y’all to be considered acceptable?

I don't. Other posts in here are / mentioned it - I'm trying to figure out what exactly is being blocked by white corporate America that needs to be let in with respect to what she was talking about. Maybe that's the issue - shyt's still ambiguous from her actual comments and lends itself to people arguing within the lines of biases they already have.

I disagree with you on the Bostonian accent shyt. Outside of Boston people are going to look at that funny anyway - they will be perceived as unintelligent. I've seen white people with southern accents get that same treatment / be made fun of by their counterparts. If folks are really trying to die on the hill of not being able to speak w/ a certain dialect at work, I'm not going to die there. No other demo gets a pass for that from what I've seen.

You're making entire leaps in this bolded paragraph - breh, like i said, you do not know me.

I dap up other black coworkers in the office. I give the nod to black people in the office and been in environments where it gets returned and others where it's like . I am by no means comfortable in white corporate America, and never will be. The privilege - feeling excluded when they're talking about cac shyt - i get it. But I'm never gonna be delusional enough for one second to think that we'll ever get so far as a VP for example being OK w/ someone on their team saying " I just have one question to axe you." I've seen white boys get chewed out for saying dude, bro, etc.

Long story short, gotta pick battles.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

It’s always got to be two extremes with us and corporate America smh. We got to either be acting “white” dressing and talking like Eddie Griffin in Undercover Brother or we got to be on some hiphop shyt with people smh. What about the black folks that fall in the middle? I mean I work for a tv news station and the black folks I work with can be themselves with no problems. We talk hiphop and comic books and all kinds of shyt. We can wear hoodies to work or pretty much dress how we want. Do some of the white folks look at us crazy? Yep... but they ain’t getting rid of us cause we get our jobs done. I just want to know wtf is supposed to happen at these jobs?

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

SHE IS SUCH A HOTTIE!!!!

 

[Insensitive]

This is such a corny take...folks too old for this.

Good on the journalist not poking into what she thinks a "blacker" Black person is.

I don't know her exact experience but I've experienced some strange moments that sound kind
of like what she's talking about but in another one of California's big industries,"Aerospace".

I always approach my peoples with love, I don't care what status they hold within the large corporation
I work in (Engineer, Technician, Manager, Janitor etc.) but depending on the level of education & income
some people get, some will give you a certain type of attitude/look

They don't smile at you, they actively look away, they don't want to hold a conversation with you for too long etc.
but if their coworkers from their organization who are typically non-black roll up :
The smiling starts.
They hold eye contact.
They not only hold conversations but HOW they speak changes
Every joke is laughed at.
THEIR presence is immediately seen as MORE IMPORTANT than YOURS.

I don't want to go tit for tat about what is or isn't "Black", I'm the last person to do that because
I try to be very wide and understanding in my view of Blackness in America but some people actively
reject that in an attempt to assimilate.
And if it's happening at my Multi-Billion dollar corp., I'm certain it's happening elsewhere.

Exactly.


And how many real nikkas are maintaining a 3.5 GPA in comp sci/comp engineering/electrical engineering

I am