oh i see. i don't watch these people, wouldn't know who this kulinkski person is if he wasn't posted here.the issue is that if a black leftist does this or appeals indirectly to their constituents, Kulinski calls it identity politics
Black Leftist Benjamin Dixon calls out Kyle Kulinski and leftists who mock "identity politics"
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Honestly I always get the vibe from Dixon he isn’t into the class stuff at all , I know he is nominally supporting Bernie but he pushes fir impeachment. All the people that overplay identity politics for the sake of it seem to also be the biggest Russia gaters and impeachment pushers. I don’t agree with that strategy
He’s right on dore to clarify but yeah Kulinski isn’t the biggest into identity politics but I don’t think he’s racist per se and I see him converting some republicans. People act like it’s all about winning and beating trump and be realistic it can’t always be perfect only when it’s to elect candidates that sell out to corps.
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I watch Kyle Kulinski's Secular Talk almost everyday and im pretty sure he doesn't like the type of identity politics that are fake and dishonest, usually when a politician uses that to garner votes. Anyone calling him a racist does not watch any of his stuff at all. Take the issue of Colin Kap's situation, he was all for kneeling for the flag and has voiced his support for him numerous times.
Kyle supports any politician who is for the working class and last time I checked White people aren't the only ones who are apart of the working class. Free education, Medicare for all, ending the wars, cutting taxes for middle class and taxing the rich, and so on, would also help Black people as well.
I dont understand why any Black person would sit and wait for political commentators like Kyle to propose or to participate in discussion in regards to specific issues Black people face. I don't know about you nikkas but i'd rather hear about solutions from Black people about Black specific-issues.
Kyle supports any politician who is for the working class and last time I checked White people aren't the only ones who are apart of the working class. Free education, Medicare for all, ending the wars, cutting taxes for middle class and taxing the rich, and so on, would also help Black people as well.
I dont understand why any Black person would sit and wait for political commentators like Kyle to propose or to participate in discussion in regards to specific issues Black people face. I don't know about you nikkas but i'd rather hear about solutions from Black people about Black specific-issues.
There is a difference between going to bat for real issues and "identity politics" in the sense that you are leveraging people's identifiers for political gain. shyt like that is disingenuous and exposes how dumb democrats think their voting base is to think that empty gestures hold any kind of weight with people compared to actually putting your career on the line for those groups while also trying to unify them on an issue that affects those groups across the board.
Agreed dude isn't perfect but he's damn sure not a racist been watching for years. Some stuff I disagree with him on sometimes.
You're wrong because you switched leftists and liberals. I'm a leftist, not a liberal. In your scenario though I'm a liberal, this is completely wrong.
I don’t really see anyone calling Kyle racist. However, it is clear he has a blind spot on race issues. There are a lot of White people like him. They are not racist, but they think you can solve the race problem by only addressing class, or getting rid of capitalism. They don’t understand race issues are much bigger than class and capitalism.
His reaction to Bernie being criticized for his reparations answer said a lot. He completely doesn’t get why Bernie initial answer was problematic. Even Bernie Stans like Michael Brooks and Mike Figueredo stated that Bernie answer was bad, and that he needs to get better on that issue.
His reaction to Bernie being criticized for his reparations answer said a lot. He completely doesn’t get why Bernie initial answer was problematic. Even Bernie Stans like Michael Brooks and Mike Figueredo stated that Bernie answer was bad, and that he needs to get better on that issue.
i dont know if id say theyre MUCH bigger. theres lots of people that think racism is intrinsic to capitalism. imo its around the same. you could make an argument to me race is more important and i might agree but its not this giant gap. everything is a factor. class is an identity too. I agree on kyle/bernie but i also think that we def have to have a coalition with that group to win, basically the multi racial working coalition idea. i happen to think bernie can be pushed pon reparations, hes already been pushed since 2016 on issues that he used to be worse on. im not throwing away the baby with the bath water or cutting off my nose to spite my face on getting a one time check cut that isnt going to fundamentally change anything anymore than yang giving you 1k. but i dont mind if someone supports marianne if that happens to be their number one issue, but theres really no other candidate you should have over bernie if youre a leftist imo but my point is, get him in and then pressure him on reparations. "identity politics" when its a specific issue like spell out the issue is needed obviously but pure tokenism and symbolism in candidates is trash to me. im worried about how many average black people and overall people are getting helped. not having a token in some sell out powerful position
they love to act like a literal handful of black people with money is a "class"
Even rich black people identify with middle class black people more than other demographics
thats cause Brooks hangs out with black people.
micheal brooks is the best i agree. listen i have issues with cenk on his overlooking warrens flaws lately but him and kyle did have a big hand in getting the squad elected. and i think they have good political instincts and are an asset on the left side of the party. nap youre a centrist shill. you want to stay with the losing strategy of the past decade
