Black man goes from 37k to 6 figures 6 certs in two years

[L&HH]

What community is he referring to?

PG County specifically Rosaryville, MD near Upper Marlboro

 

[Vaselclean]

And the kick is at least in my experience the foreign born professionals are not as good as they say or no nothing at all, especially Indians. At least 80% of Indians that i had to work with or was around did not know close to the level of what they should or nothing. Making mistakes blaming it on something or someone else, getting Indians who knew their shyt to do their work and 5+ of them trying to solve a simple issue that should take only 1 person. The only reason they were tolerated was because they were most of the time cheaper than actual professionals.

People don't really know how true this is, especially black folk.

I told my sister I work with a bunch of asians/Indians and she said "Yeah those people are smart....". Absolutely false. They are no smarter than anyone else is what I told her. They really got it good being the "smart hard working model minority".

There really aren’t. Go look at the executives and you’ll get a good idea why. All white with a toke Indian or Chinese at best. I rarely see black people in my field and only a handful get beyond entry level. It’s not cuz we are under qualified either. Even N school. Not too many black people. It’s like that in Canada probably better in the US.

Yep. I didn't even want to point out white supremacy as a barrier because IT in general is tough to get into, but it's even harder as a black male. Places where the pay was $16-20/hr wasn't even giving me a shot. Also had black male interviewers giving me a hard time too. Crazy.

By the way, these are experiences from ATLANTA! So for a black male, it's not just about going to a place where there are many IT jobs and black people.

 

[L&HH]

This too. And overall the work to get to a cybersecurity job isn't just "learn cybersecurity." You still gotta know the basics of computers, networking and infrastructure.

The CompTIA website tells you this is the correct pathway (which is a lot more work then people who just say "learn cybersecurity" make it out to be)

Any profession in tech is gonna take hard work, but when people say "just learn to code" or "just learn cybersecurity" they make it seem so simple when really it's a marathon.

Not as much work as it seems. I know ppl that's completed the A+ to Sec+ in like 3-4 months

 

[Vaselclean]

Certs seems to be where it's at. If a young person asks me what they should do with their life, I'm going to tell them to get a certification. There's more out there than back breaking trades and worthless 4 year degrees.

You're just getting the success stories. They're not worthless, but they're not necessarily a ticket to economic freedom/independence/whatever either.

The typical cert chaser is stuck in help desk (which may be fine depending on one's ambition). Certs are good if you want a stable $30-45K job.

I tried taking the typical shortcut approach and I got the typical results. Although results vary, the best bet to get into IT is through the long, boring process of getting a degree.

 

[patscorpio]

@patscorpio more brothers are seeing the light IT is where it's at brehs

indeed breh

 

[Carlton Banks]

Not as much work as it seems. I know ppl that's completed the A+ to Sec+ in like 3-4 months

I'm another couple of weeks away from being able to pass the A+ .. been at it since quarantine started

 

[Astroslik]

True that. That’s what I’m going through in NyC. Which is why I also apply to places like Buffalo, Wilmington, or DMV where nyc has a lot of its “second” offices.


My lawyer friend moves from DC to NYC because DC is saturated with lawyers

Weird move. NYC has the most lawyers in the country. Very oversaturated.

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

Which one out of the 15 do you recommended and how hard is it to get a job?

Cloud (AZURE, GCP, AWS) +CISSP/CISA + Learn Linux heavy, it will take time though. Learn Linux and the fundamentals of Networking. I had a tough time at my job because I did not learn linux deep enough. After a while, it started making sense to me.

Honestly, just stay in study mode. I. get certs now, not because my job requires it, it is because I am planning my next move or in case I get laid off I can bounce back easily.

 

[ViShawn]

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[UberEatsDriver]

Weird move. NYC has the most lawyers in the country. Very oversaturated.

According to her she can get a job in 1 day here but was struggling to get one in DC.

 

[DonDadda]

Is Linux worth getting into now or am I better on focusing on cloud technologies like docker etc

 

[Marc Spector]

Is Linux worth getting into now or am I better on focusing on cloud technologies like docker etc

being that Linux is open source (BUT NOT ALWAYS FREE) and a lot of servers/IoT devices are running on some Linux Distro, you should get very comfortable with Linux.

At the very least knowing how to sift through a linux file system and use the man pages.

 

[Marc Spector]

New people don't realize their are a ton of IT people making shyt wages and getting worked like mules.

Cybersecurity only pays well because their is a huge shortage at the highest levels. And foreign hackers are busting these companies asses and robbing them blind.

The minute the cyber attacks stop or the shortage of talent goes away. The salaries will come right back down to earth.

The real money makers in IT are always jumping to the next hottest technology. So they jump on the money train as it's going up. If you can't keep reinventing yourself damn near every 6 to 7 years in terms of technology. You're salary will at first stagnate and after one bad layoff you might never see that kind of money again.

The ones who stay on the cutting edge are the ones making all the money. Dudes who don't eat, sleep and breathe technology are lucky if they can pay their bills in IT. So if you just regular you gonna struggle big time.

The only ones who don't best believe are kissing up to white folks. Those are the clowns you want to avoid. Because they don't want another token black on the team. I've only seen this in state and Federal Government for the most part.

Truest words on the coli, possibly ever.

IT requires a dedication to lifelong learning OFF THE CLOCK. Its the most difficult part of the job IMO. One of my instructors was on MS development team in the early days of configuring devices of all kinds to sync to the same cloud. Had to learn 6 different programming languages (and im struggling learning 1 ). A guy who put me on to the job im in now (which is a hybrid of Linux admin with software development) has jumped over to Forensics (and for more money!).

Constant reinvention in this career field yall. You gotta be on some David Goggins shyt with developing a grinders mentality.

 

[JLova]

Yep. I didn't even want to point out white supremacy as a barrier because IT in general is tough to get into, but it's even harder as a black male. Places where the pay was $16-20/hr wasn't even giving me a shot. Also had black male interviewers giving me a hard time too. Crazy.

By the way, these are experiences from ATLANTA! So for a black male, it's not just about going to a place where there are many IT jobs and black people.

I’m still waiting to have a black interviewer...I’m in my late 30s. If you’re Asian thry autimatically assume you’ll be fine. You get the benefit of the doubt. Broken English and all. If you’re black they’re trying to find ways not to hire you. Remember years ago for a mid level position this broad actually asked me if I was OK managing Asians. I was like .

 

[Originalman]

This site seems to push IT heavy. I think because the barrier to entry is very low but brehs need to Know helpdesk is not IT it’s just a call center most of the time. To actually break into the field requires a lot of dedication not like other fields. Certainly certainly will help but a degree will take you farther.

We need to push STEM in general. As many IT brehs we need, we need engineers as well. I know a breh who only knows CAD software who makes 120k a year. Opportunity is out there but they require investments of time and money. IT is no different it’s not a get rich quick scheme.

Yep you know CAD and Catia you straight paid.