Black men, how did we allow this matriarchy in the black community?

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im asking for ur personal opinion....what would it take to make ur family happy and sucessful?

How exactly do u plan on setting your kids up to make them equally or more successful then yours? Is that all you believe it takes to make and keep ur wife happy?

My family is happy now because we all love and support each other. We have each others backs no matter what, and we always look out for the best intrest of our family members. I concede some things for my wife's happiness, she concedes some things for me. We are able to do this in good faith because we understand the other person would do the same.

Success for my family would be setting my kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life. As long as it's not self destructive. I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance.
 

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My family is happy now because we all love and support each other. We have each others backs no matter what, and we always look out for the best intrest of our family members. I concede some things for my wife's happiness, she concedes some things for me. We are able to do this in good faith because we understand the other person would do the same.

Success for my family would be setting my kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life. As long as it's not self destructive. I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance.

Mitt, is that you? lol
 

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I agree. It's not about who has the power. It's about the man leading the family to prosperity, I'm not gonna judge others households, but that's not how I run mine. Point is the woman should trust that this man will lead her and her kids to happiness and prosperity, if she doesn't feel that way he is not leading the household and the relationship will fail.

Read my post before the one you quoted.

Yeah, after reading other posts that you wrote after this one I see that we agree overall. I will say though, that many women, myself included, are very weary of men who hinge everything on the way their relationships go on the issue of leadership. It just comes off as an insecurity/ego thing. A man could have as much leadership as he wants over his own life and no one could ever question him. So thats why I'm always curious to ask men that think this way, why get into a relationship with another person just to have what you could have on your own (if its not an ego thing)?

If you are a leader, you will be that. You don't need to talk about it or demand/insist on it, creating a power struggle with your partner from the jump. You can be about it. In the things that you deserve to lead on, you will lead on naturally. On the things you don't, you won't. There is no shame in that because all it shows it that you picked a partner who complimented you well.

But that's just my opinion.
 

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Naw I'm just a regular nikka who knows how to lead a household

i meant that in the 20% tax code sense....

ur not answering the question i asked.......just like Romney

The question is simply, what do u feel it takes to make ur family happy and successful...... the answers youre coming with arent answers at all.

"we always look out for the best intrest of our family members." this isnt an answer dog. U cant say "the best interest" of your family without defining what those best interests are.

"I concede some things for my wife's happiness, she concedes some things for me." What does this even mean?


"Success for my family would be setting my kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life." How?

"I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance." How?

u speakin in generalities when im lookin for specifics. Because once u give those, imma tie them in with my point
 

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@kevm3 your post about feminism and the CIA was literally laughable, and you did not answer my question at all.

Can you please tell me of an era where by all statistical bounds of reason that Black people in America were BETTER OFF than they are in this era.

Black people are wealthier, healthier, more educated, and safer than they have ever been.

There has been a REPORTED increase, on your part, of single mother homes. Cant I make the same relationship between single mothers, and all these increases in the standard of living for African Americans? See how soft and flimsy that logic is?

I don't know, maybe because American society AS A WHOLE is more wealthier? Maybe because of the technology boom, increased civil rights, and the overall increase in prosperity of America in general? The point isn't whether blacks are better off compared to some past era, but rather are blacks doing as well as they COULD be doing if both parents were present.

How about you post some statistics comparing the success rates of single parent households compared to one where both the father and mother are present?
 
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i meant that in the 20% tax code sense....

ur not answering the question i asked.......just like Romney

The question is simply, what do u feel it takes to make ur family happy and successful...... the answers youre coming with arent answers at all.

"we always look out for the best intrest of our family members." this isnt an answer dog. U cant say "the best interest" of your family without defining what that is.
Our best intrest is happiness. for us that is raising a happy loving family.


"I concede some things for my wife's happiness, she concedes some things for me." What does this even mean?
we make mutual sacrifices for each others happiness.


"Success for my family would be setting my kids up to go and do whatever it is they want to do with their life." How?
Read below


"I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance."
How? By being there for them and providing them the support and guidance they need

u speakin in generalities when im lookin for specifics. Because once u give those, imma tie them in with my point

I am answering your question. You can't dismiss it because I'm not giving you the answer your looking for. You asked what would it take to make my family happy. I answered what we are currently doing to be happy. You want me to say buying a home and a car and clothes, when in reality this isn't happiness to my family. Yes we need basic necessities, but we'd be happy no matter what car or house we are in. Those things aren't important.
 

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Our best intrest is happiness. for us that is raising a happy loving family.


we make mutual sacrifices for each others happiness.


Read below


"I will set my kids up for this by providing them with a happy home, support, and positive guidance." How? By being there for them and providing them the support and guidance they need



I am answering your question. You can't dismiss it because I'm not giving you the answer your looking for. You asked what would it take to make my family happy. I answered what we are currently doing to be happy. You want me to say buying a home and a car and clothes, when in reality this isn't happiness to my family. Yes we need basic necessities, but we'd be happy no matter what car or house we are in. Those things aren't important.


dog, ur a bullshytter........

smh @ myself for wasting my time communicating with you.
 

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Yeah, after reading other posts that you wrote after this one I see that we agree overall. I will say though, that many women, myself included, are very weary of men who hinge everything on the way their relationships go on the issue of leadership. It just comes off as an insecurity/ego thing. A man could have as much leadership as he wants over his own life and no one could ever question him. So thats why I'm always curious to ask men that think this way, why get into a relationship with another person just to have what you could have on your own (if its not an ego thing)?

If you are a leader, you will be that. You don't need to talk about it or demand/insist on it, creating a power struggle with your partner from the jump. You can be about it. In the things that you deserve to lead on, you will lead on naturally. On the things you don't, you won't. There is no shame in that because all it shows it that you picked a partner who complimented you well.

But that's just my opinion.

Marriage was about becomeing one not being Partners.
 

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I don't know, maybe because American society AS A WHOLE is more wealthier? Maybe because of the technology boom, increased civil rights, and the overall increase in prosperity of America in general? The point isn't whether blacks are better off compared to some past era, but rather are blacks doing as well as they COULD be doing if both parents were present.

How about you post some statistics comparing the success rates of single parent households compared to one where both the father and mother are present?

Ahh friend so society as a whole is wealthier. We agree. So the key to the increase in standard of living is the level of wealth distributed between the different segments of societies. While marriage and duel income is a desirable outcome economically, it is totally peripheral to the distribution of wealth, as we now agree.

Thanks! :cheers:
 

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Yeah, after reading other posts that you wrote after this one I see that we agree overall. I will say though, that many women, myself included, are very weary of men who hinge everything on the way their relationships go on the issue of leadership. It just comes off as an insecurity/ego thing. A man could have as much leadership as he wants over his own life and no one could ever question him. So thats why I'm always curious to ask men that think this way, why get into a relationship with another person just to have what you could have on your own (if its not an ego thing)?

If you are a leader, you will be that. You don't need to talk about it or demand/insist on it, creating a power struggle with your partner from the jump. You can be about it. In the things that you deserve to lead on, you will lead on naturally. On the things you don't, you won't. There is no shame in that because all it shows it that you picked a partner who complimented you well.

But that's just my opinion.

I totally agree with you. I don't lead my household by telling my wife what to do. She looks for my leadership because I have proven to be a good leader and she trusts that I will lead our family to prosperity.
 

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dog, ur a bullshytter........

smh @ myself for wasting my time communicating with you.

How am I bullshyting. You answer your own question then maybe I can get an idea of what your looking for, because I answered your question as honestly as I could.

What do you think it takes to make a happy successful family?
 

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What does that have to do with the fact that when these people hold the same jobs, one sex gets paid more than the other? :skip: :mindblown:

The White House’s use of data on the gender wage gap - The Washington Post

Almost 10%, and the disparty is bigger than last year. Foolish nikka. :pachaha: You act like a female.

Dumbass, the data here isn't controlled for occupation/experience/education. And even the article said the gap for bm bw is "small". There is you big advantage.
Indeed, economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis surveyed economic literature and concluded that “research suggests that the actual gender wage gap (when female workers are compared with male workers who have similar characteristics) is much lower than the raw wage gap.” They cited one survey, prepared for the Labor Department, which concluded that when such differences are accounted for, much of the hourly wage gap dwindled, to about 5 cents on the dollar. (UPDATE: Our colleagues at WonkBlog calculate that the gap narrows to 91 cents for every dollar “if you control for life choices.”)
 
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