Black Men need to "Man-Up", mentor these lil nigglets out chea.

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Yet you disrespect those that are still in the hood. How does one get "out" the hood if they don't start "in"'the hood.

I'm not gonna look for the quotes, but you've said things like "if your still in the hood your lazy" " people in the hood are either gangbangers, baby mommas, crackheads or welfare moms, and they are proud of it"

You like to push that mentality on the majority of black folks when it's actually the minority of black folks that have it.

And either way this thread is about helping the KIDS and you are arguing against that:mindblown: if the kids aren't worth our help and attention than who is?
I know what quote you're talking about. I said if you are still in the hood after age 24 then you are lazy. I don't have an issue with people in the hood who are at least trying to better themselves. I have no issue with people in the hood who value education and recognize that education is the way out of the hood.
I never said everyone in the hood was any of those negative things. It's convenient to think that though.
Nothing is wrong with helping. The issue comes when people feel entitled to having other people raise their children.
 

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Nope. It's not true.

I am Black. I am not a shiftless scumbag loser.

Spare me with the racist programming.

I'm the best kind of human being.

I'm not saying that you're a shiftless scumbag loser, but someone as smart as you should know the drawbacks that comes with being a token off on your own island, I live in a mostly white suburb. I know that it's their community, and I'm only allowed because they allow me. The thought that another group could hold so much power is more than a bit scary.

If for whatever reason if they wanted me out of there, there's nothing I could do because I'm outmanned. There's strength in numbers even if you don't necessary see eye to eye.
You mentioned earlier that you had black friends, I'm guessing they're peers from corporate .

Do you think it would be harder for you career-wise to if you didn't have these guys to work with?

The idea of having a community is that you have someone to have at your back when things get tough. No man is so awesome that he can control every lifes bump. Even with the best schools, your children will be subject to a lot of fukkery from his peers, white teachers, just because and he/she will be a disconnected token.

I'm not saying they're out to get black students , they just don't understand our struggle. I'd sleep way more comfortable knowing my son had black male teachers to aspire to in school. To steer him when I'm not there. This is where the community aspect comes in.


Knowing what I know, I just couldn't throw my kids to the system and hope for the best. :yeshrug:
 
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They'd rather gossip about who they think I am than fix the problems in their own communities and better themselves too. :dead:

If these people cared about education and entrepreneurship as much as they cared about me, or these lame reality TV shows they might actually have the chance to become something.
Get over yourself. This thread is just the same shyt over and over again at this point from both sides. shyts pointless. I said my piece pages ago. I'm just out here having fun **** :mjpls:
 

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Ok im done, I gotta prep for the gym and whatever takes me way from this laptop. Im disappointed in this thread. As usual the main objective is lost in the confusion of stereo types, personal issues and my personal favorite separation. I agreed with the article that we should help and it is a problem in our community with irresponsibility when it comes to our youth. It asked what we help, I think we should. All of us are the ones that see this problem, we shouldnt turn away from it.

On another note Im done speaking for every other black person. I speak for me and what im doing. I see that i cant count on yall for shyt and its up to me and whoever wanna help destroy this problem. A lot of yall will fukking C/S Tariq on the knowledge he drops and his opinions on our race but yet he was a fukking pimp :snoop:

You have posters most of the posters in this thread reading blogs and watching some poor black souls on youtube kick each other backs and then have the fukking nerve to run with it as if it happen to them :wtf: The problem with this site is the lack of life experience and with out that its no point in even trying to debate bout this shyt. Not when you have solutions being met with criticism from people that never fukking done it themselves.

Oh they not my kids so fukk em :manny:

Oh its the parents faults fukk em

Oh the hood dont like me cuz im mixed

Dark skin women are bitter then light skin

Black dudes aint shyt themselves

These were the answers that was given when we (all of us) was asked to help a growing problem.

I hope yall are happy, cuz the problem isnt the baby mommas or the dead beat dads its yall.
 
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There is virtually no hope for the people that we're talking about for the most part. The problem is cultural and it's not going to be long until the culture is completely eradicated.

In the meanwhile, the best thing you can tell a Black kid is the following:
"To be equal you must be superior. The margin of error is razor thin for us. The only thing that you can do to succeed in this reality is to be a better person than everyone you deal with. You have to be more intelligent, harder working, better spoken, better dressed, and above all righteous in your excellence. This is the only way. It's better this way in the long run. Mediocrity always loses in the end and you can't win for losing."

The only way a black kid can succeed in this society is they have the belief of their own superiority in their heart. Too many of us are suck in loser mentality for a number of different reasons. It takes so much to overcome the constant barrage of messages that reinforce notions of a Black person's individual inferiority. The times in my life that I've made significant mistakes were those times when I allowed those negative forces to influence me and steer me away from the real truth.

Blacks that don't take this approach find themselves in the gutter, jail, or stuck at the bottom. And yes, they are going to be systemically eliminated from this society. Don't believe me? Just look at Harlem.

This is so contradictory. I get what you're saying, I truly do. But how you're going to tell a lil nikka with no knowledge of self or culture that his dollar is only worth 50 cents of the white man's dollar. Right out the gate you are telling him he is inferior to his white counterparts and he will have to work twice as hard just to be on an equal playing field. What lil nikka is gonna feel compelled to sign up for a life like that?
 

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This is so contradictory. I get what you're saying, I truly do. But how you're going to tell a lil nikka with no knowledge of self or culture that his dollar is only worth 50 cents of the white man's dollar. Right out the gate you are telling him he is inferior to his white counterparts and he will have to work twice as hard just to be on an equal playing field. What lil nikka is gonna feel compelled to sign up for a life like that?
The ones that want to win with the hand that circumstance dealt them. That lil nikka. The others? To Hell with them. Or rather, that's where they shall remain.

The alternatives to this mentality is that of the mediocre or the loser. If you're Black, either one dooms to the fate that society has reserved out for so many of us.

I live by the words that Richard Nixon said on the subject of personal excellence:

"What starts the process, really, are laughs, slights and snubs when you are a kid. Sometimes it's because you're poor, or Irish or Jewish or Catholic or ugly or simply that you are skinny. But if you are reasonably intelligent and if your anger is deep enough and strong enough, you learn you can change those attitudes by excellence, personal gut performance, while those who have everything are sitting on their fat butts.

Once you learn that you've got to work harder than anybody else, it becomes a way of life as you move out of the alley and on your way. In your own mind you have nothing to lose, so you take plenty of chances, and if you do your homework many of them pay off. It is then you understand, for the first time, that you have the advantage because your competitors can't risk what they have already. It's a piece of cake until you get to the top. You find you can't stop playing the game the way you've always played it because it is a part of you and you need it as much as an arm or a leg.

So you are lean and mean and resourceful, and you continue to walk on the edge of the precipice because over the years you have become fascinated by how close to the edge you can walk without losing your balance."

-Richard Nixon, 1974


I had that quote hanging above my desk in my room from the day I read it in 7th grade. Every Black kid needs to read it and truly feel it, deep with in their hearts. It's the only shield I have in a world that would rather have me dead, broke, or in jail.

Black Americans failed to advance socially because they aspire to be mediocre like their white counterparts.

I'm not saying that you're a shiftless scumbag loser, but someone as smart as you should know the drawbacks that comes with being a token off on your own island, I live in a mostly white suburb. I know that it's their community, and I'm only allowed because they allow me.
Wait, you live in your house on another man's dime? You don't own or rent your own spot?


The thought that another group could hold so much power is more than a bit scary.
Are you scared of "h'white power?" Really, breh?


If for whatever reason if they wanted me out of there, there's nothing I could do because I'm outmanned. There's strength in numbers even if you don't necessary see eye to eye.
Dude, it's 2012. Not 1912. You're fine.


You mentioned earlier that you had black friends, I'm guessing they're peers from corporate .
College buddies...


Do you think it would be harder for you career-wise to if you didn't have these guys to work with?
Umm... it's cool when there's another black dude to talk to from time to time, sure, but I don't require it. I mean, that's what I log on here for. Now, I will say that I've gotten the hook up from Black people in my life, but I've also gotten the hook up from white people in my life. Opportunity knows no race.


The idea of having a community is that you have someone to have at your back when things get tough. No man is so awesome that he can control every lifes bump. Even with the best schools, your children will be subject to a lot of fukkery from his peers, white teachers, just because and he/she will be a disconnected token.
I'm the superior other. First generation. I'm an alien everywhere I go. I get treated like a man from Neptune by most people. I get along with other aliens for the most part. A white guy got me my first real job out of college. That guy, like myself, is a bit "other worldly" to most people. It's probably a big reason why we can relate to one another. The Black people in my life really couldn't do sh!t for me in that regard. It pays to have a wide, diverse circle of friends.


I'm not saying they're out to get black students , they just don't understand our struggle. I'd sleep way more comfortable knowing my son had black male teachers to aspire to in school. To steer him when I'm not there. This is where the community aspect comes in.
Black teachers are cool, sometimes. But a lot of black teachers suck. Most teachers are crappy people. I'd teach my kid to be smarter than every single teacher he has throughout his K-12 schooling and into college. I hope any Black teacher that my child has challenges him at every turn and doesn't cut him an inch of slack.


Knowing what I know, I just couldn't throw my kids to the system and hope for the best. :yeshrug:
I'll equip my children with the knowledge that they're better than 90%+ of the people that they deal with on a day to day basis. Regardless of race.
 

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820 posts? :whoo: y'all nikkas ain't shyt

How the fukk did this go 54 pages!!
It's hasn't even been a day!!:mindblown:
This leaves my to believe that some people don't have lives other then this site.
 

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:skip: For all you who are lost, I think I can summarize this thread in one post.


*Black Woman writes article saying black men should mentor young black boys of single mothers*



Black male Poster #1 responds: ":pacspit: ?I ain't mentoring or taking care of another nikkas's kids, black women need to stop procreating with "ain't shyt" nikkas?


Black Male Poster #2 responds::stopitslime: ?Nah she right we do need to mentor these boys for the community, it ain't black women's fault that they got a bunch of out of wedlock kids from different nikkas, maybe if black men took care of their kids and were leaders there wouldn't be any issues"


Random Female Poster: *Cosigns black male poster #2* ?This is why I don't respect black men, yall are always quick to shyt on black women. :beli: Just because a woman is a single mother doesn't make her a ho"! :usure:


Black Male Poster#1: "Why can't black women make better choices in men and stop having out of wedlock babies :mindblown: They need to raise their standards I ain't mentoring these kids they're too far gone"


Black Male Poster #2::snoop: Ya'll c00n ass uppity nikkas never miss a chance to shyt on black women and black people, If ya'll nikkas stopped knocking black women up and walking out then we wouldn't have this problem, what's wrong with spending a little time with a kid and being a role model.:manny:


*The two groups of nikkas and females go back and forth for 50+ pages talking about the same thing and the fukkery commences*:lolbron:





Did I miss anything? :mjpls:


Nope!

*daps*

The crazy thing is that these tunnel-vision-ass-nikkas won't allow both concepts into their brain. I mentor young athletes AND I think women need to upgrade the men they're having kids with. But I guess it's just easier to say "men should be leaders" (which is bullshyt, because a lot of these nikkas are unfit to lead) than to acknowledge that women have a substantial role/influence in the black community.
 
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The ones that want to win with the hand that circumstance dealt them. That lil nikka. The others? To Hell with them. Or rather, that's where they shall remain.

The alternatives to this mentality is that of the mediocre or the loser. If you're Black, either one dooms to the fate that society has reserved out for so many of us.

I live by the words that Richard Nixon said on the subject of personal excellence:

"What starts the process, really, are laughs, slights and snubs when you are a kid. Sometimes it's because you're poor, or Irish or Jewish or Catholic or ugly or simply that you are skinny. But if you are reasonably intelligent and if your anger is deep enough and strong enough, you learn you can change those attitudes by excellence, personal gut performance, while those who have everything are sitting on their fat butts.

Once you learn that you've got to work harder than anybody else, it becomes a way of life as you move out of the alley and on your way. In your own mind you have nothing to lose, so you take plenty of chances, and if you do your homework many of them pay off. It is then you understand, for the first time, that you have the advantage because your competitors can't risk what they have already. It's a piece of cake until you get to the top. You find you can't stop playing the game the way you've always played it because it is a part of you and you need it as much as an arm or a leg.

So you are lean and mean and resourceful, and you continue to walk on the edge of the precipice because over the years you have become fascinated by how close to the edge you can walk without losing your balance."

-Richard Nixon, 1974


I had that quote hanging above my desk in my room from the day I read it in 7th grade. Every Black kid needs to read it and truly feel it, deep with in their hearts. It's the only shield I have in a world that would rather have me dead, broke, or in jail.

Black Americans failed to advance socially because they aspire to be mediocre like their white counterparts.


Wait, you live in your house on another man's dime? You don't own or rent your own spot?



Are you scared of "h'white power?" Really, breh?



Dude, it's 2012. Not 1912. You're fine.



College buddies...



Umm... it's cool when there's another black dude to talk to from time to time, sure, but I don't require it. I mean, that's what I log on here for. Now, I will say that I've gotten the hook up from Black people in my life, but I've also gotten the hook up from white people in my life. Opportunity knows no race.



I'm the superior other. First generation. I'm an alien everywhere I go. I get treated like a man from Neptune by most people. I get along with other aliens for the most part. A white guy got me my first real job out of college. That guy, like myself, is a bit "other worldly" to most people. It's probably a big reason why we can relate to one another. The Black people in my life really couldn't do sh!t for me in that regard. It pays to have a wide, diverse circle of friends.



Black teachers are cool, sometimes. But a lot of black teachers suck. Most teachers are crappy people. I'd teach my kid to be smarter than every single teacher he has throughout his K-12 schooling and into college. I hope any Black teacher that my child has challenges him at every turn and doesn't cut him an inch of slack.



I'll equip my children with the knowledge that they're better than 90%+ of the people that they deal with on a day to day basis. Regardless of race.
I see it's a lot of opinions based on very little life experiences in this thread.
Let me ask you this. How many people in America are truly above average? If you could put a % on it, what would it be?
 
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