Black parents are dream killers, take their advice with caution, dont let them indoctrinate you

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Lol @ some nikkas missing the point, probably on purpose. :russ: I NEVER said older black ppl don't care about education. It's ENTREPRENEURSHIP that most of them didn't and still don't care about. Clueless nikkas in here talking about, "Well, maybe the old black ppl you know just aren't shyt, the ones i know told me to go to college and get a job" :laff:nikka, hate to bust your bubble, but you're no special snowflake, they told ALL of us that basic ass "advice". Now ask yourself, how many of them who told you to "get a job" were able to actually PROVIDE you with a job?:sitdown: Did they have anything to offer, or did you have to go to white ppl for jobs?

nikka, whether you're upper, middle, or lower class, older black ppl in general still pretty much told us all the SAME thing. Go to school, and go beg white ppl for jobs That's all they preach, nothing about entrepreneurship. There are a few exceptions, but i'm speaking generally.

How many of you in here got a business passed down to you from your pops, or got a job in your pops business? How many of your friends did?

Yall are impressed by generic ass advice instead of actual building...its pathetic...you've adopted the same mentality that they have without even realizing it
 
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Definitely some truth to this. My parents tried to put me in a bucket of being an engineer or IT professional because I wasn't very outgoing. They just didn't know me very well and didn't realize that I could be a people person in an environment of my peers.

I think some parents want to kids to take the safe route instead of stretching boundaries of what they perceive can be done.
 

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This is reductive thinking.
College certainly isn't the "end-all be-all" but there certainly shouldn't be any opposition to it.
We as Americans have this odd thinking that college is somehow "seperate" from middle school and high school. Its not, its a continuation and should be treated as such.
Nothing "pigeon-holing" about pushing higher education: we will continue to need more doctors, engineers, programmers, accountants, researchers, etc.

Yes but there is a problem with implying that blacks are losing because they dont have diplomas. Thats just not correct sir
 

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No we dont. Some people are. A majority are not.

Too many, no matter how much or little you count. Even the hustles, a lot of us be like " :whoa: we can't do this" or making all kinds of excuses on not being done.
 

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sir, stop it. you know very well that if a person makes a general statement and the shyt doesn't apply to you, you aren't offended by it.

If someone came out right now and said "black people are poor" im black, im not poor, that shyt doesnt bother me because it doesn't apply to me.
He's saying that the overwhelming majority of black parents are bad, because news flash, they are. All i gotta do is go to west philly and see kids running around unsupervised, while their mom is out clubbing or doing whatever but not raising their kids. These type of situations are extremely common and not just in west philly, in north philly, southwest, baltimore, chicago, your hood, and every other hood the same bullshyt is going on.

You can keep trying to pretend that the stats dont show blacks in last place in every good statistical category all you want, while i'll continue to adress it and do my best not to end of being just another statistic.

Your comments about working for white people are true, I don't disagree.

Still cant ignore the fact 27.4% of blacks are living in poverty compared to just 9.9% of whites, 13% of asians so how can we apply this samething to all american parents like you stated above?

so how many black parents out there are like yours? not many at all and it's a shame because there needs to be more.


Alot of facts support drx's claims so it is a very educated opinion and so he can make generalizations based upon research that points in that very direction...


sidenote: Poverty rates for Black families vary based on the family type. While 23% of all Black families live below the poverty level only 8% of Black married couple families live in poverty which is considerably lower than the 37% of Black families headed by single women who live below the poverty line. The highest poverty rates (46%) are for Black families with children which are headed by single Black women. This is significant considering more than half (55%) of all Black families with children are headed by single women.

Most of this information you posted has nothing to do with bad parenting and goes a LOT deeper than parenting as well. Even so, most of what he posted has nothing to do with you posted. I could argue 10 other possible reasons for what you posted and none of them would be bad parenting. Not to mention bad parenting is, for the most part, subjective.

In addition, there is a difference between causation and correlation. Your post implies you don't quite get the difference.
For example, when my mother was younger she was a maid and a single mother and lived well below the poverty line. She's the same parent now as she was then. Her poverty level had nothing to do with her ability as a parent. That's just where she happened to be at that point in her life.
 

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We were brought here disenfranchised, disorganized, and separated. We remained separated and crippled for over 200 years. We've been behind the curve since we got here.

But we have plenty of examples of black folk overcoming it. At this point, even white folks don't do much to oppress us now. The information is there to succeed.
 

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Yes but there is a problem with implying that blacks are losing because they dont have diplomas. Thats just not correct sir
Lack of education is a major issue, it may not be the only issue, but it certainly is an issue.
And "diploma" is not what I'm referring to when I say education, its a small part of it. The barrier to jobs is indeed in the certification that you can perform well for tasks in your chosen field of study, but the much broader implications are the financial literacy, understanding of mathematics and literature, exposure to various cultures and histories, comprehension of bias in media and in other sources, the knowledge of the world around you as it exists, and an expansion of your understanding of great inequalities.
 

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But we have plenty of examples of black folk overcoming it. At this point, even white folks don't do much to oppress us now. The information is there to succeed.

You're right. There are plenty of individual examples. I would like to consider myself one of those examples. But I can't get mad at the next man. Biggest reason why is because of this fukked up disposition that's nearly second nature to the entire race.

We're not overcoming a year or two struggles and setbacks. We're overcoming centuries. It isn't easy fam.
 

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Too many, no matter how much or little you count. Even the hustles, a lot of us be like " :whoa: we can't do this" or making all kinds of excuses on not being done.

Because a good majority of people literally can't.

Just like a majority of Americans. Every black person doesn't want to own a business. There is nothing wrong with that. Yall keep pushing this belief like its going to change the game or like there are no black businesses. When there are MILLIONS that already exist in America. If that's your dream, then let it be your dream. If going to college is your dream then let that be your dream. Stop preaching this ideology like entrepreneurship is going to lead us to the mountain top. It don't matter what path you take as long as your willing to work hard for it. Yall so busy judging your race based on some infliction that DOESNT EXIST. When yall should be happy with any results.
 

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Lack of education is a major issue, it may not be the only issue, but it certainly is an issue.
And "diploma" is not what I'm referring to when I say education, its a small part of it. The barrier to jobs is indeed in the certification that you can perform well for tasks in your chosen field of study, but the much broader implications are the financial literacy, understanding of mathematics and literature, exposure to various cultures and histories, comprehension of bias in media and in other sources, the knowledge of the world around you as it exists, and an expansion of your understanding of great inequalities.


Do you agree that this information can be learned directly with out college? Do you agree that blacks are being put into the rat trap of thinking big time Universities are the key to financial freedom when we are being denied jobs with degrees over people who have none? Would you agree that a degree in most cases does not give you a leg up in the American society as many college and non college graduates in America work side by side, get the same pay, and have the same chance of growth. That experience in America is much more valued then degrees( in most cases). Degrees are not the definition of education, please understand that first an foremost.
 
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