Black people need more patriarchy not less

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We should stop impregnating women that aren't marriage material.

Black men are actually more involved with their children than men of other races but the economics of not being in the same home can be an issue.

Again though, as brehs, we can't demand patriarchy if we don't act like patriarchs. No more raw-doggin every other woman we fukk. Focus on finding a wife and getting married first....plenty of sistas out there.

We gotta lead from the front.


Women gotta make better choices in who they have kids with. The reality is a small number of men are producing a lot of kids by Multiple women. Trying to act like we are all reckless is false.
 

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Women gotta make better choices in who they have kids with. The reality is a small number of men are producing a lot of kids by Multiple women. Trying to act like we are all reckless is false.
It’s all types of birth control in 2020, so to be having unplanned pregnancy in this day and age, either you’re not responsible or doing it on purpose
 
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Might as well change the thread title because it is 50-11 pages of Ciara, Russel, and Bow Wow bullshyt.

Y’all have the attention span of a toddler. :snoop:Can’t even stay on task with the topic at hand without getting caught up in shyt about Ciara that doesn’t even matter.

The real issue is men simply choosing Not to be leaders. Not leaders of themselves, leaders for their households, not leaders for their kids... Nothen. Leadership has lost its value to many men. A lot of men don’t even attempt or try to do any true heavy lifting that can benefit the collective.

However.. ima let y’all cook.:unimpressed:


:what::rudy:
 

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What "consequences" do you want to see women get for making bad dating choices when they are young?
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First off it ain't about what I want it's about what is. Ciara had a baby with a nikka that wasn't equipped mentally nor cared to raise it. That's a consequence right there.

Secondly I want men who have something going for themselves to have the self esteem to recognize and deal with women on their wavelength, realize when they're dealing with low hanging fruit and to move accordingly. Too many soft minded marks out here eager to waste their life dealing with women they have no business taking seriously, just because they may look good and can run some weak game. Then when those women get bored, default to their renegade tendencies (rarely does a whore appreciate a man making an honest woman out of her) and shyt goes left, they're looking crazy.

Now as far as women being in situations similar to ciara I feel it's only right for the men they fukk with to be the reformed ones trying to get serious about life while dealing with long lasting consequences as a result of their previous bad decision making, whether it be prior convictions or a questionable baby mama. That ain't me tryna be funny or spiteful, I just believe in order for a relationship to work long term both parties have to be equally yoked.
 

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First off it ain't about what I want it's about what is. Ciara had a baby with a nikka that wasn't equipped mentally nor cared to raise it. That's a consequence right there.

Secondly I want men who have something going for themselves to have the self esteem to recognize and deal with women on their wavelength

That ain't me tryna be funny or spiteful, I just believe in order for a relationship to work long term both parties have to be equally yoked.
sounds like ciara dealt with the consequences of making bad decisions...
decided to make a change in her behavior...
and found a guy who matched with her and they have a nice cohesive black family to raise kids in....

I really dont see what the issue is...

Do you think this relationship is keeping Russel from being successful/happy?
What is Russel doing wrong and how is it affecting him?
What are the issues you see that will cause their relationship to fail?

:lupe:
 

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Yeah, we do but most cats ain't fit to follow through and just to hung up on the tit for tat game with women.
 

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sounds like ciara dealt with the consequences of making bad decisions...
decided to make a change in her behavior...
and found a guy who matched with her and they have a nice cohesive black family to raise kids in....

I really dont see what the issue is...

Do you think this relationship is keeping Russel from being successful/happy?
What is Russel doing wrong and how is it affecting him?
What are the issues you see that will cause their relationship to fail?

:lupe:

I know you're not talking to me but I gotta give a response, because I'm not sure if you're being obtuse or trying to legitimately understand another perspective.

In a vacuum there is no issue, I wish them well as I'm sure most people who aren't bitter would. There's no issue the same way there's no issue with Cardi and Meg making a song called WAP, and promoting promiscuity/ho culture, in a vacuum.

The problem is the example it sets for women who in general at damn near any stage in life are more impressionable than men. The aforementioned women had/have money. So regardless of the relationship choices they could be self sufficient for themselves as well as children with or without a man. Most regular folk who follow these celebs/athletes/etc. don't have money and are closer to poverty or barely getting by than they are to wealth. The average sista plain can't do what Ciara did. I could argue average the average breh can't really do what Russell did either but men (who have morals) know they have to make do somehow, doing whatever for however long to provide for them and theirs. Women don't have the same burden of responsibility and will simply get government aid while simultaneously blaming Men as a collective for their circumstance. They'll pass this bitterness to friends and children even though its a farce, and the reality is she chose poorly and men financially able or not don't see as worth the trouble anymore. Moreover Ciara has access to private chefs, trainers, etc. to keep herself in tip-top condition, meanwhile the average women doesn't ever really get all the way back to her figure prior to child birth.

The problem is it sets a bad precedent, same way Ye dating/marrying whore women does for impressionable Yeezy wearin' jits, but the vast majority of men would decline to date a known whore.
 

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I know you're not talking to me but I gotta give a response, because I'm not sure if you're being obtuse or trying to legitimately understand another perspective.

In a vacuum there is no issue, I wish them well as I'm sure most people who aren't bitter would. There's no issue the same way there's no issue with Cardi and Meg making a song called WAP, and promoting promiscuity/ho culture, in a vacuum.

The problem is the example it sets for women who in general at damn near any stage in life are more impressionable than men. The aforementioned women had/have money. So regardless of the relationship choices they could be self sufficient for themselves as well as children with or without a man. Most regular folk who follow these celebs/athletes/etc. don't have money and are closer to poverty or barely getting by than they are to wealth. The average sista plain can't do what Ciara did. I could argue average the average breh can't really do what Russell did either but men (who have morals) know they have to make do somehow, doing whatever for however long to provide for them and theirs. Women don't have the same burden of responsibility and will simply get government aid while simultaneously blaming Men as a collective for their circumstance. They'll pass this bitterness to friends and children even though its a farce, and the reality is she chose poorly and men financially able or not don't see as worth the trouble anymore. Moreover Ciara has access to private chefs, trainers, etc. to keep herself in tip-top condition, meanwhile the average women doesn't ever really get all the way back to her figure prior to child birth.

The problem is it sets a bad precedent, same way Ye dating/marrying whore women does for impressionable Yeezy wearin' jits, but the vast majority of men would decline to date a known whore.
So you're saying that celebrities and rich people should live a specific way because poor people copy them?
 

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So you're saying that celebrities and rich people should live a specific way because poor people copy them?

Ideally yes, but there's mad Barkleys out there. With power comes responsibility, but the average person with no power stays ducking their accountability. Which leads to the main point, people, women in particular need to be more accountable for their mistakes as opposed to blaming men as a collective when 8/10 they only dealt with a specific type of man until they depleted their value to the point no decent man wants to give them the time of day.

Most of the men who are HOH on this board and in IRL just want accountability on both sides.

I take accountability in gender relations by realizing the type of woman I'm looking to date is essentially obsolete. So I decline to date, as opposed to settling for something I don't want/wouldn't be happy with. I'm not selfish or irresponsible in using a woman as a SO who I don't like and simply use for some level of companionship sprinkled with sidepieces/frequent infidelity.

It really is that simple but people, especially women want to have their cake and eat it too
 
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