Black People need to dead this "P.O.C./Intersectionality" bullsh1t.

[godkiller]

Except, you're too dense realize that's me in the avi.

Why do I have to hold you goofy troop ass nikkas hand with this, every time.

Oh I know that's you. And like I said originally, cac00n, given you let cacs control you, non-black Americans are a leg up. You got your receipts, now shut up.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

Being a c00n is worse than being a cracker tho. You'd be better off letting people believe that you're just a cracker pretending to be black.

And you'd be better of dumping your white girlfriend than trying to sling shyt at black people who have a different opinion than you.

Don't come at me like you smart, stupid. Don't do that.

Oh I know that's you. And like I said originally, cac00n, given you let cacs control you, non-black Americans are a leg up. You got your receipts, now shut up.

No you didn't kid.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Intersectionality doesn't have to do with (People of Colour), it has to do with the intersection of issues for someone who isn't just oppressed in one category.
The intersection of poverty, Blackness, womanhood, sexuality, education, and country of origin are all incredibly important issues.
If you're not heavily an activist or working directly with your community, alongside the academic side of racial understanding the in the US, your opinion means jack-shyt in this thread.

I've been involved in social justice work and activism pretty much all of my adult life, until recently.

now this is anecdotal, but around these parts "intersectionality" is more often than not wielded by white folks as a way to sidetrack any sort of conversations that poc bring up in regards to their experience, any legitimate issues or complaints, and it's often used as an in to engage in Oppression Olympics.


i'm all for letting people cook regardless of their orientation or creed, but let's be real, this whole "allies" idea is bullshyt. REAL "allies" don't walk around shouting from the rooftops how they're an ally. it's a means to get some kind of cool points around here.

if I sound jaded, it's because I am, I've seen far too many of these white feminist and LGBTQ groups talk a good game(and they ALWAYS bring up "intersectionality") and at the end of the day they're just as racist as the folks in the Bible Belt.

are there some poc(non-Black) that are cool and down for the cause? sure. but I think by and large as groups they'd like to further their privilege in a paradigm of white supremacy.

as a matter of fact, all the identity politics and the Mr. and Mrs. "Me Too" fukkery just got to be too much and that's basically why I dropped out of the whole activist/social justice scene. They love shytting on black people, especially black men.


it really is Black People vs everybody
and historically speaking a lot of other groups have gotten further and benefited to the centuries of struggling black people have had to go through. and some groups have gotten where they are at Black folks' expense.

the Irish and Italians weren't "white" when they got here, they became white in large part by engaging in acts of anti-black racism like lynching and they also benefited from the fact that they could blend in phenotypically easier.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Trolls these days, I hate I have to bring this this up

Year 1958

Rape:: 46% Black
Robbery:: 54% Black
Murder:: 61% Black

As long as there is poverty, there will be problems you fukking idiot

Stupid ass idiot it wasn't nearly as bad as it is today. They still put they hands up back then. Today everyone getting shot and killed. The fact is everything went down when u take the man out the house and u allow woman to run communities. This is why the black community a joke today. Simpson and nikkaz who think poverty the cause.

 

[Barnett114]

Stupid ass idiot it wasn't nearly as bad as it is today. They still put they hands up back then. Today everyone getting shot and killed. The fact is everything went down when u take the man out the house and u allow woman to run communities. This is why the black community a joke today. Simpson and nikkaz who think poverty the cause.

Crime is down today because poverty is down

Sit yo dumb ass fakkit and troll somewhere else cac

 

[Roland Coltrane]

youre so quick to defend them but what have they done that warrants that level of defense?

what tangibles have they brought to the black community?

the intersectionality/black feminist crew is all talk and theoretical , they do nothing transformative to tangibly help black people world wide.

people need to understand that black feminism is just a coping mechanism, they dont really care about the social, political, and economic equality of black women. if they did they'd stop writing ebony.com and madamnoire.com "think pieces", log off of twitter, and actually go to the hood to help black women.

dont get me started of fukking black academics, theyre the biggest frauds of them all. all that knowledge but they never put it to use.

dap + rep

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Your assertions don't pass basic scrutiny logically and historically.

As history and logic shows,, what is best in the long term for rich blacks is also what is best for poor blacks. When rich whites came to America and lead the assault on the Natives using poor white bodies, the rich whites benefitted from greater land, resources and--but so too poor whites ultimately benefited (look at all the land the whites reaped; all the opportunity; all the profit). Similarly, when white males became rich and powerful, so too did white females.

In analogy, black women benefit when black men benefit and lose out when black men lose out, same as white men and women. To use your own example, Black women benefited immensely and incontrovertibly from black man leading the Civil Rights movement. The list of rights and privileges black women gleaned from black men's Civil Rights work is now inexhaustible 60 years later, same as the privileges and rights granted by European men vis-a-vis white women. See, even if black women remain unequal to black men, like white women are unequal to white men, this does not mean nothing is gained.

The world is not an all-or-nothing place.

I don't think anyone here is trying to say NO progress was made. Hell, both black people and women across the board are "doing better". In terms, of gross income and employment. However, a rising tide doesn't always lift all boats the same. Domestic violence still affects black women at higher rates than other women, as does access to proper health care (OBGYN) and let not even get into the social psychology of black hair and beauty. We can dismiss that all we want, the shyt is more damaging than we as men think, because we have been lusted for (fetishized) since forever.

I don't want us to make the mistake of thinking "money = equality" because we know it doesn't. Until it becomes totally cool for Aquanetta to be just as normal as the name Abigail or even Alicia, then it not an equal thing. I also don't want us to think that just because Black women are "better off" than some black men then that makes the shyt ok or that the struggle is finished. That's that "Obama effect" shyt.

I mean, look at it this way. We as black men lauded the quality of having a fat ass so much, to a point to where women feel like less of women if they don't have one so they go and BUY them. Now, I'm aware that people are people, and they will make their own choices. But white women did the same with breasts. At some point we as men gotta be like "you if you don't have ass like that its cool, you gorgeous." But as long as we double tapping fake asses on IG and Tumblr that's the message we send. And because, by virtue of being men, we get heard more the "all women want is a 6'5, $100k, muscled nikka x,y,z." argument is moot. A ugly dude with his shyt together will always get a woman before an ugly woman with her shyt together will get a man.

 

[Gravity]

And you'd be better of dumping your white girlfriend than trying to sling shyt at black people who have a different opinion than you.

Don't come at me like you smart, stupid. Don't do that.

You're a self proclaimed internet troll, your life is already shyt. I don't have to sling it at you. I was just tryna help your bytchass out because you're making yourself look worse.

 

[Barnett114]

Marcel Cali | Facebook

Marcelcali

 

[godkiller]

I don't think anyone here is trying to say NO progress was made. Hell, both black people and women across the board are "doing better". In terms, of gross income and employment. However, a rising tide doesn't always lift all boats the same. Domestic violence still affects black women at higher rates than other women, as does access to proper health care (OBGYN) and let not even get into the social psychology of black hair and beauty. We can dismiss that all we want, the shyt is more damaging than we as men think, because we have been lusted for (fetishized) since forever.

I don't want us to make the mistake of thinking "money = equality" because we know it doesn't. Until it becomes totally cool for Aquanetta to be just as normal as the name Abigail or even Alicia, then it not an equal thing. I also don't want us to think that just because Black women are "better off" than some black men then that makes the shyt ok or that the struggle is finished. That's that "Obama effect" shyt.

I mean, look at it this way. We as black men lauded the quality of having a fat ass so much, to a point to where women feel like less of women if they don't have one so they go and BUY them. Now, I'm aware that people are people, and they will make their own choices. But white women did the same with breasts. At some point we as men gotta be like "you if you don't have ass like that its cool, you gorgeous." But as long as we double tapping fake asses on IG and Tumblr that's the message we send. And because, by virtue of being men, we get heard more the "all women want is a 6'5, $100k, muscled nikka x,y,z." argument is moot. A ugly dude with his shyt together will always get a woman before an ugly woman with her shyt together will get a man.

The evidence is clear that in terms of general life quality, a rising tide does lift all boats when it comes to black men and women. High domestic violence rates is a subjective term; black American women have about the same domestic violence rate as Italian women. Any that argue that Italian women's lives, opportunities, lands, etc haven't improved as Italian men's have, in spite of domestic violence still being "high" argue a ludicrous point. To, lack women's outcomes generally improve in unprecedented and multifarious ways when black men's outcomes improve. This not just related to money but in all facets of life, including violence.

Suffice to say, if black women want Aquanetta to be as normal as Abigail or Alicia, black women will help black men become more powerful so that Aquanetta too can rise. This is the only way such will happen. Fighting black men and black empowerment will ensure it never does.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I don't agree with the way you're framing it, because it would imply that the intersection of being oppressed as a woman ties to oppression as a black person in relation to conceived privilege of black masculinity. Black masculinity is a threat, this goes back to the Arab slave trade and the trans Atlantic slave trade where black men were castrated. Their masculinity is a threat. For the black American community, there is no black male privilege but for perhaps other communities such as Nigerians, maybe it is. If you ask a Nigerian woman her answer might be yes, Nigerian men have privilege. Or an Ethiopian woman. But this is not how it is in the black American community at all. Black women are figure heads, you have grandmothers raising kids and running shyt in the households with no male presence or head of household. It's common place.

Doesn't mean misogyny doesn't' exist. I mean, men aren't publicly shamed or looked down upon for abandoning their kids/family, women are though.

Let's be clear. We cannot solve the issue of white supremacy until we solve the issue of the adversarial relationship between black men and women.

 

[godkiller]

Marcel Cali | Facebook

Marcelcali

This guy @Marcelcali is some old fat eurocac troll

 

[Poitier]

I don't want us to make the mistake of thinking "money = equality" because we know it doesn't. Until it becomes totally cool for Aquanetta to be just as normal as the name Abigail or even Alicia, then it not an equal thing.

 

[Unknown Poster]

First, focusing on division rather than unity only leads to more division. Black empowerment is difficult to achieve on its own without splitting one's attentions to miscellaneous isuses. Moreover many of the "different issues" you're talking about aren't real issues at face. Putting focus on them is what makes them "real" same as putting focus on racism against cacs is what makes that "real".

To wit, there is a general anti-black theme and sentiment whether one is a rich or poor black. Rich blacks are denied promotions and denied work same as poor blacks. The same is true of immigrant blacks, they just tend to have very high skills. Moreover many immigrant blacks are already integrated into the USA and black America without any fanfare. Nicki Minaj, 50 Cent, etc are all Carribean descent but you couldn't tell so just by looking at them. The best thing for blacks to do is to come together, same as any other people do, and work on black empowerment, same as what whites did.

Repped for the bolded.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

The evidence is clear that in terms of general life quality, a rising tide does lift all boats when it comes to black men and women. High domestic violence rates is a subjective term; black American women have about the same domestic violence rate as Italian women. That aside though, black women's outcomes generally improve in unprecedented and multifarious ways when black men's outcomes improve. This not just related to money but in all facets of life, including violence.

Suffice to say, if black women want Aquanetta to be as normal as Abigail or Alicia, black women will help black men become more powerful so that Aquanetta too can rise. This is the g

Let me re-frame. Do you think black and latino women (and even some white ones) getting fake asses, even when they have an already naturally large one is "normal"? And if not/so, why?