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[10bandz]

@Ozymandeas you made that nikka post a credit karma screenshot

 

[Ozymandeas]

@Ozymandeas you made that nikka post a credit karma screenshot

It's like I'm glad youre fiscally responsible but we were talking about the horrendous reputation, not the actual credit score

 

[ItsStillMurda]

Kobe Kukoc was the ultimate role player during those championships

 

[10bandz]

I’m sorry @FlyRy

But Lakers legend Jerry West doesn’t know shyt and he’s wrong.

— The Coli Dot Com

Jerry West was known as an angry hater that got ran off the Lakers franchise. THat;s why no one cared about his comments at that time. Keep trying though you fukking idiot

 

[10bandz]

if we could go back in time to 2002 and ask the average teenager about Kobe, the wide majority would say he was one of their favorite players. Not present this narrative that he was Shaq’s flunky.

Kobe had the best selling jersey from 2001-2003 these nikkas are literally just making up shyt.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Gilbert kinda right about this shyt if you take a step back. MJ....he may or may not be the GOAT but people pick and choose what matters to fit the argument.

 

[10bandz]

Gilbert kinda right about this shyt if you take a step back. MJ....he may or may not be the GOAT but people pick and choose what matters to fit the argument.

thats because its about more than just titles, MJ changed the way the NBA put teams together. Before MJ how many teams won without a star big man? MJ was also out there doing shyt no one had seen before, the way he played the game etc.

The GOAT argument only became what it is because you know who created an entire media campaign around it, muddying the waters. Before Bron had a ring you had ESPN cacs like Hollinger and Abbott making up new advanced stats and saying he's the GOAT or better than Magic. MJ GOAT talk started organically through his peers whereas for Bron it was purely through media cacs.

Gilbert is just one of those guys bitter because he thinks he's as talented as dudes like MJ/Kobe but didnt achieve shyt and never got heralded on the same level. That's what we're seeing with these retired dudes on the podcasts.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

thats because its about more than just titles, MJ changed the way the NBA put teams together. Before MJ how many teams won without a star big man? MJ was also out there doing shyt no one had seen before, the way he played the game etc.

The GOAT argument only became what it is because you know who created an entire media campaign around it, muddying the waters. Before Bron had a ring you had ESPN cacs like Hollinger and Abbott making up new advanced stats and saying he's the GOAT or better than Magic. MJ GOAT talk started organically through his peers whereas for Bron it was purely through media cacs.

Gilbert is just one of those guys bitter because he thinks he's as talented as dudes like MJ/Kobe but didnt achieve shyt and never got heralded on the same level. That's what we're seeing with these retired dudes on the podcasts.

The Pistons did it 2x right before MJ.

I wouldn't call Laimbeer and Mahorn superstar bigs.

MJ was being entered into the GOAT talk before the Bulls actually won anything...so the proof of concept wasn't even there.

Advanced stats seem to favor MJ slightly over LeBron. Bron obviously has the counting stats and a much longer peak. MJ had a higher peak.

I think Bron's issue is authenticity. People loved MJ because "what you see is what you get." He was a ultra competitive, borderline psycho and owned that shyt. Bron should have stopped trying to be MJ 2.0 and just wore the supervillain mask. Kobe became way more popular when he ditched the clean cut Sprite image and embraced the Mamba Mentality stuff.

 

[Wacky D]

you know how we know ppl hate kobe?? They use Pau fcking Gasol to show kobe had a lot of help. Same Pau who made all NBA once and all star ONCE in the 8 years he had been in the league prior to joining the Lakers

Kobe has the only fanbase that downplays his teammates. You yourselves know that Kobe doesn't belong in a GOAT conversation, with these arguments & narratives that you come up with.

 

[Wacky D]

The Pistons did it 2x right before MJ.

I wouldn't call Laimbeer and Mahorn superstar bigs.

MJ was being entered into the GOAT talk before the Bulls actually won anything...so the proof of concept wasn't even there.

Advanced stats seem to favor MJ slightly over LeBron. Bron obviously has the counting stats and a much longer peak. MJ had a higher peak.

I think Bron's issue is authenticity. People loved MJ because "what you see is what you get." He was a ultra competitive, borderline psycho and owned that shyt. Bron should have stopped trying to be MJ 2.0 and just wore the supervillain mask. Kobe became way more popular when he ditched the clean cut Sprite image and embraced the Mamba Mentality stuff.

I think the LeBron hate is moreso a product of the social media era. Everything he does or doesn't do is under scrutiny, even if the critiques nake absolutely no sense.

Basically the basketball equivalent of a jayz or Beyonce.

 

[madness]

I think the LeBron hate is moreso a product of the social media era. Everything he does or doesn't do is under scrutiny, even if the critiques nake absolutely no sense.

Basically the basketball equivalent of a jayz or Beyonce.

Lebron was the first superstar athlete of the social media era, so all of his hiccups and failures were done under the microscope of social media. Mike got to take his ass kickings from the Pistons in peace, and Kobe got to shoot airballs vs Utah, blow a 3-1 playoff lead, get embarrassed by the Pistons etc in peace.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

I'll play along. Just for everyone in the 20s after Wade, I can count 4 of them dudes without a shadow of a doubt that I'd take over Wade.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Lebron was the first superstar athlete of the social media era

Y'all say this shyt like message boards, chat rooms, etc. didn't exist.

 

[fifth column]

Lebron was the first superstar athlete of the social media era, so all of his hiccups and failures were done under the microscope of social media. Mike got to take his ass kickings from the Pistons in peace, and Kobe got to shoot airballs vs Utah, blow a 3-1 playoff lead, get embarrassed by the Pistons etc in peace.

You made this up, you don’t know what you are talking about

 

[Remote]

Y'all say this shyt like message boards, chat rooms, etc. didn't exist.

You're right.
But at the same time I think it's fair to acknowledge that message boards, blogs and chatrooms weren't nearly as impactful in terms of spreading and shaping narratives as modern social media has been.

I mean in 2005, newspapers and television were still the big drivers of perception around pro athletes.

I don't necessarily agree that Lebron was the first superstar athlete of the social media era. That kind of label could be applied to other people...maybe Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo or someone else. But I do think it's fair to say that ALL modern athletes are under far more criticism in the current social media age than any athlete before it. Athletes of the past had the benefit of being protected and built up to some degree by a much more cooperative media apparatus.