biggest dikkrider on here as the nerve to pretend he's above stan wars. look at this post
Bleacher Report's Top 100 NBA Players of All-Time
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Yes you did make that up. You obviously weren’t of an appropriate age to witness how Kobe was perceived back then.
The funniest thing in your attempt at claiming white folks didn’t like “uppity” Black athletes who came from functional, two-parent households who were confident in themselves, is that you’re literally describing MJ, and he is the most-beloved basketball player in history among white Americans.
Yet here you are trying to paint a picture that peckerwoods did a 180 when Kobe came into the league.
You didn’t watch Magic play, so you can stop the bullshytting.
Steals are such a lazy way of measuring defense, so I really don’t know what point you’re trying to prove, especially when Steph led the league in steals too. Go figure. If you’re using that as a defense for Magic, then you can’t use it against Steph.
You’re just foolishly equating his stature to being a liability, when he was anything but that throughout his career. If he truly was, then he wouldn’t have had even 1/3 of the success. He would’ve dragged his teams down to the point of where they would’ve been better off without him.
No I’m not making any of this up lol. My uncle grew up with Kobe’s parents and was in Philly during his rise. I’m most likely fewer degrees of separation from Kobe than almost everyone on here. And MJ came from a two parent household but always presented himself as humble in the public when he came into the league.
And yes Curry is more of a defensive liability than Magic and a big part of that is his size. Magic could guard multiple positions while Curry couldn’t.
If you want to play this stupid game look up 2010 play by play because Bean didn't do much either. Just some ftsTrying to move the goalposts
I said Lebron wasnt a closer, then you, as a stat watcher, brought stats without nuanced. When the nuance shows that he didn't do much in the last 4 mins of both 4th quarters. Now instead of admitting that he didn't actually "close" like you said, you're trying to move the goalpost to another example of you blindly stat watching without nuance.
"I didn't make any case." Exactly. You're here to whine about threads you always involve yourself in
I don't know who "dear leader" refers to but I think people are tired of the narratives the media/Lebron/Klutch uses to prop him up at the expense of others. And by people I mean those who arent fanboys that stat watch and think "better stats automatically means better player"
Ozymandeas
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Yeah, personally I don't think there's 7 people better than Kobe. I think the only bonafide person is Jordan. The rest are people who get named just because. I think it's unfortunate that Kobe was shytted on by the media so he didn't get the MVPs he deserved and the narrative about him playing with Shaq stuck so people feel they can discredit his career -- even though he was putting up Jordan numbers during the three peat. For example, it makes no sense that Kobe had the #1 record in the harder Western Conference for two years and won two championship rings and averaged similar stats and they still gave the MVP to LeBron. Fair judges would've given the 2009 MVP to LeBron, then saw everything Kobe did that Finals and gave the 2010 MVP to Kobe which would at least give him two MVP awards but, they weren't playing fair
So now when you run Kobe's awards and accomplishments through mechanisms like OpenAI, it puts him towards the back of the top ten list eventhough we know with our eyes that he's closer to the middle (5-7 range). In terms of AI, he was extremely talented. I went back and really looked at some of his highlights, and in hindsight, Philly was not a serious place. They paired him up with garbage and expected him to win. Some of those guys would struggle to make an NBA roster today. They should've traded as many picks and players as they needed to get a real secondary player. Sucks for AI because he had the talent to be ranked alot higher.
Yeah, personally I don't think there's 7 people better than Kobe. I think the only bonafide person is Jordan. The rest are people who get named just because. I think it's unfortunate that Kobe was shytted on by the media so he didn't get the MVPs he deserved and the narrative about him playing with Shaq stuck so people feel they can discredit his career -- even though he was putting up Jordan numbers during the three peat. For example, it makes no sense that Kobe had the #1 record in the harder Western Conference for two years and won two championship rings and averaged similar stats and they still gave the MVP to LeBron. Fair judges would've given the 2009 MVP to LeBron, then saw everything Kobe did that Finals and gave the 2010 MVP to Kobe which would at least give him two MVP awards but, they weren't playing fair
In terms of AI, he was extremely talented. I went back and really looked at some of his highlights, and in hindsight, Philly was not a serious place. They paired him up with garbage and expected him to win. Some of those guys would struggle to make an NBA roster today. They should've traded as many picks and players as they needed to get a real secondary player. Sucks for AI because he had the talent to be ranked alot higher.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
So what we have here is you bringing 2 games as proof that Lebron is a closer. Once I bring the context to show he didn't do anything the last 4 minutes in the games YOU brought, you're now bringing random Kobe games to deflect from being wrong
