Nero Christ
Sniper out now on all digital platforms brev
Lot of folks can’t criticize the NFL (outside of the same shyt everyone criticizes every league for like officiating) because they’ve made themselves synonymous with America.
BLM era done, multiple NFL teams honor Charlie Kirk
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Lot of folks can’t criticize the NFL (outside of the same shyt everyone criticizes every league for like officiating) because they’ve made themselves synonymous with America.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Even if he was, it wouldn't justify this.
Part of the reasoning seems to be that if you make him a national figure above approach it helps whitewash things he has said/done. I've seen multiple right wingers argue the Paul Pelosi attack and Minnesota assassinations aren't comparable because nobody knew who those people were. As if everyone knew who Kirk was before his assassination. It's blatant.
This is NOT a 1:1 comparison either but you could argue it's similar to how MLK and Malcolm X are treated. Two side agree to whitewash their revolutionary (or "radical") views in exchange for mutual agreement that political violence is wrong. The public then goes on not really knowing what the men believed, and instead just view them as historical figures who were killed because of "what they said/believed." The ironic part to me is that Kirk led the most prominent recent movement to break that agreement on MLK, and dedicated a lot of time to denigrating the man. Using propaganda from the FBI/CIA to do it. This is the same Charlie Kirk who spent the last decade arguing the FBI/CIA are deep state entities who silence critics and frame enemies, btw.
King_Kamala61
:mjlit: A Fat Black Nasty MFer :mjlit:
if LeBron says they doing it...they doing it
xiceman191
Superstar
Whats so special about this dude? Like I know he was popular but not to receive this type of fukkin response? Acting like it was some hall-of-famer or some super important person.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
There’s $200 million poured into his org and his platform shows why he was important to a fukked up element in this country that way too many Black folks are WAY TOO LATE in learning about. Your question, unfortunately, reflects that lateness
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xiceman191
Superstar
John Mexico
All Star
LMAO
ONLY 4 fukkING TEAMS
DIDNT HONOR THIS fakkit?
Not because those backwards ass crackers wouldnt agree with it, but because they are ownerless. What's distributed to the world is 100 percent up to the Billionaire Boyz Club. We like the NFL but the NFL, owners and 80 percent of the sports fans we all know how they roll....
Fertitta's fakkit ass own the Station Casinos and we are subject to this in town driving around:
Once again, I think you're underestimating just how great and megaphoned the algorithm that Kirk existed on was. In theory, sure, I can understand your perspective that they both gained famed through their appeal to a certain demographic and not the mainstream, but in reality, what Kirk represents has essentially becomea a mainstream-level mentality.
The existence of Trump as POTUS is proof of this; Elon turning Twitter into his own far-Right cesspool is proof of this.
Furthermore, Turning Point USA is a multi-million dollar grift and the most prominent Conservative youth organization in the country, which has been active for over a decade (indoctrinating thousands of people), he's not only traveled all across the country to spread his message (Trump even joined him center stage), but he's made appearances in different countries too, he's published books (i.e. refurbished age-old Conservative rhetoric and passed it off as his own), hosted a podcast that had up towards a million downloads with each episode, poured countless amounts of resources in and recruited thousands of volunteers to shift the tide in swing states to vote for Trump (his ground game was essential last election).
I just did a google -
Despite whatever paltry online existence you think he had, it's clear that what he was doing was on a much greater scale than Samuel.
Like I said, not only is that sect much bigger than you think it is, but the popularity of himself is rather meaningless when the message quickly spread on what he fought for.
That's what it ultimately comes down to, and I think that's where the disconnect lies between what you and I are arguing. You believe since he wasn't that well-known, it shouldn't have transpired in all this global public mourning, and I'm arguing that his popularity is rather inconsequential when folks are using his death for their own means, using it for a fight that runs adjacent to what he was fighting for. You know Republicans are crack addicts for their objective, so seeing one of their own being killed in 'politcal violence', it doesn't matter whether they knew of him or not, that was the fix they needed in order to acheive that high.
They have absolutely no shame, introspection or decorum when it comes to shoving their message down the throats of the rest of us, they'll use whatever tool they can with reckless abandon.
They're not mourning in the manner that you and I would mourn a person. They're dramatically grieving to cause a stir, amplifying what they believe to garner attention for their cause; they're political Karens, who'll scream bloody murder after throwing themselves to the floor, trying to make themselves the victim. Except now they don't need to create an elaborate act of being murdered, the boogeyman that is The Left has revealed itself and done it for them.
In this context, it's popular in the fact that it's a guise for them to use for whatever grievances they have with the state they believe the country is in. Those crackas over in the UK said it best when they chanted "we want our country back!". You should know by now that what Conservatives say and what they do are two different things. We're long past the point of expecting them to uphold what they say and not live in existence of hypocrisy.
I completely understand what your point is, but like I keep reiterating, it's not about how popular he was (although you're severely undercalculating just how far his reach was - he was called the "pied piper of the American Right" even before his death). It's all about how popular the representation of him was. That's something that can't be debated, unless you believe all the public outcry is all just AI and not real people, which is the quite the haunting thing, that Conservatives have essentially gone from fabricating their victimhood and turned it into something real.
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@mastermind this is a perfect example of what I'm arguing -
This soulless bytch would've never heard of Charlie Kirk before, but it didn't stop her from faking the mourning of him because it serves her cause. They're real-life AI versions of themselves.
This soulless bytch would've never heard of Charlie Kirk before, but it didn't stop her from faking the mourning of him because it serves her cause. They're real-life AI versions of themselves.
regrettably mr. beast has actually been involved in NBA and NFL broadcasts in the last year so there probably would beI dont get it wasnt charlie kirk basically a glorified podcaster ?
whats next, honoring influencers ? there finna be "rip mr beast" sports wide if he gets murked ?
He was much more than a "glorified podcaster". He had an insurmountable amount of political sway, both directly and indirectly - one thing that a lot of posters on this board are glossing over. He's a modern-day mega activist. To your point about Mr. Beast and what @Baka's Weird Case touched on above - streamers/podcasters have essentially become the new celebrites. You don't have to look too far to see the following and influence that people like Kai Cenat and IShowSpeed have.I dont get it wasnt charlie kirk basically a glorified podcaster ?
whats next, honoring influencers ? there finna be "rip mr beast" sports wide if he gets murked ?
yseJ
Empire strikes back
yeah I mean I get it just tough for me to adjust as an older guy...todays young peoples celebs are those influencers/streamers
Nah, I'm sure they would have
When have the Right let what is justifiable get in the way of purporting propoganda?
I see quite a few people in this thread trying to make sense of how widespread the lamenting of his death is, but the Right don't play by the rules. They make up shyt as they go. The fact you're putting forth an argument from them that they didn't know who Melissa Hortman and Paul Pelosi were and that everyone knew who Kirk was is only them believing what they stand for holds greater reverance.
I really don't know why there's all this confusion when the shyt that Trump has managed to pull off to fool the public is a lot more severe and reverberating. The Right is fooling everyone into believing Kirk was much more important than he was because they want everyone to believe what they stand for matters most.
These are the strange times we live in.
Yaboysix
That nikka
Fck that nygga, I'd hawk spit the whole time if I ever saw that shyt around me .
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