[Bloomberg] Xbox's Hike on Game Pass Shows Cost of Lost 'Call of Duty' Sales (more than $300M across console/pc lost)

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Had the meal ticket right in front of them and threw it out the window :russ:
 

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It was always a bad idea to buy activision, theres no way COD can exist without Playstation buyers. All they did was lock themselves into being dependent on sony and nintendo with all these acquisitions
Here’s the true answer

It’s funny how M$ indoctrinated their base to never worry about sales numbers just how many players were or had played a game :mjlol:

Like at some point they knew the party was going to stop
 

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Here’s the true answer

It’s funny how M$ indoctrinated their base to never worry about sales numbers just how many players were or had played a game :mjlol:

Like at some point they knew the party was going to stop

“They don’t care about selling hardware”

“They don’t care about selling games, gamepass..”

“They don’t care that gamepass is $10 a month, they generate profit with DLC and Add-ons”

“Phil said…”

Even last year they tried to gaslight about Blops 6 being the most played COD of all time. Meanwhile they’re lost over a quarter billion dollars on it. :rolleyes:
 

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This is irrelevant to the consumer. Their job is to consume via avenues made available to them not be concerned with a corporation's profitability.

This goes hand in hand with how these guys have zero criticism for Sony cutting off access to PS1, PS2, and PS3 games purchased via PSN during the PS3 era, just so they can sell them a new tier of PS+ to play them (which they all subbed to).

It's about whatever makes Microsoft or Sony the most money to these guys. Two competing cults of revenue stans.
 

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This goes hand in hand with how these guys have zero criticism for Sony cutting off access to PS1, PS2, and PS3 games purchased via PSN during the PS3 era, just so they can sell them a new tier of PS+ to play them (which they all subbed to).

It's about whatever makes Microsoft or Sony the most money to these guys. Two competing cults of revenue stans.
This post needs community notes. :mjlol:
This isn't even true, games purchased during the PS3 era can be downloaded for free on PS4/5 without needing PS+.

Also, players who have previously purchased the digital version of select games from the original PlayStation and PSP generation will not have to make a separate purchase or sign up to PlayStation Plus to play these titles on PS4 or PS5. When these titles are released for PS4 and PS5, players can head to PlayStation Store and download a version for the consoles at no extra cost if they already own the digital version of the title. Some of the titles will also be available for individual purchase.
If the game gets released on PS+ but you already bought it back then, you can download it for free. I have Jak 1 on my PS5 right now which I purchased on earlier gens.
 

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This post needs community notes. :mjlol:
This isn't even true, games purchased during the PS3 era can be downloaded for free on PS4/5 without needing PS+.


If the game gets released on PS+ but you already bought it back then, you can download it for free. I have Jak 1 on my PS5 right now which I purchased on earlier gens.

Jak 1 directly contradicts what you are quoting about free entitlement because its a PS2 game. And the only reason you can play it is because it got a PS4 port when it was remastered. You still can't play everything you digitally purchased for PS1-PS3 on a PS5 today, you're only entitled to some free ports for whatever PS1 and PSP games Sony chooses to port.

You're always rushing to respond and left looking stupid because you either didn't read properly or you're editing your post 45 minutes later.
 

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[NeoGAF] Xbox (new) hardware is up in the air and may not happen despite their announcements, more retail stores will pull Xbox from sale and MS is becoming 100% a third party publisher

This comes from SneakersSO, this insider accurately leaked Xbox third party plans:

>Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

>The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met.

>Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

>To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

>Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

[Source](https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-revamps-xbox-game-pass-plans-and-hikes-ultimate-to-29-99-a-month-ultimate-gets-ubisoft-classics-and-more.1688694/post-270866538)
 

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Apparently SneakerSO leaked Xbox’s multi-platform strategy in 2023 and working with OEMs. Tom Warren says SneakerSO knows a lot about what is going on with Xbox internally.

Inb4 cac rumors :mjlol:
 

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Jak 1 directly contradicts what you are quoting about free entitlement because its a PS2 game.
:what: are you talking about? It's a PS2 game that I didn't have to buy because I ALREADY owned it dummy. Your nonsense post said Sony cut off games to force you to play them through PS+ which was debunked by the article I posted by Sony themselves saying if a game is released through PS Classics but you already owned it on PSN from earlier gens, you DON'T have to pay for it.

And the only reason you can play it is because it got a PS4 port when it was remastered.
This is a different point now, and even then that's still not a negative because the one I had since 2017 is now a newer version with trophies and higher resolution.

You still can't play everything you digitally purchased for PS1-PS3 on a PS5 today, you're only entitled to some free ports for whatever PS1 and PSP games Sony chooses to port.
This is a different talking point, you just made it seem like PS1-PS3 games are available ONLY through PS+ premium and you can't play them if you owned them. You just randomly pivoted to talking about BC because you saw your first knee jerk reaction post was incorrect.

You're always rushing to respond and left looking stupid because you either didn't read properly or you're editing your post 45 minutes later.
You're always rushing to say stupid shyt to look like you're unbiased when you think you got a point and when proven wrong, you just spam some bullshyt. I clearly read what you said and it was properly determined to be completely bullshyt.


these guys have zero criticism for Sony cutting off access to PS1, PS2, and PS3 games purchased via PSN during the PS3 era, just so they can sell them a new tier of PS+ to play them (which they all subbed to).


Your initial post was 100% INCORRECT, you do NOT need to have PS+ premium to play games you already purchased for PS1~PS3 during the PS3 era.

Loud and completely wrong dummy. :camby:
 
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Apparently SneakerSO leaked Xbox’s multi-platform strategy in 2023 and working with OEMs. Tom Warren says SneakerSO knows a lot about what is going on with Xbox internally.

Inb4 cac rumors :mjlol:

Im pretty sure he’s where that discord leak came from
 
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Funny I haven't gamed in almost 12 years and just signed up for game pass, the $20 tier, three days ago and love it
 
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