Bob Woodward Has Recordings Of Trump Admitting COVID19 Was A Problem In February Then Mislead Public

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Why do you think random tweets are a good source of information?

First off, the CDC only estimated 61,000 flu deaths in 2018. You're probably looking at an early projection or some shyt that the Republicans are just amplifying for the sake of exaggeration. And that was the worst year in a really long time.

Burden of Influenza


Second of all, that's a ESTIMATE, not the measured number. They only measured a fraction of that. Since they've already directly measured nearly 190,000 coronavirus deaths, the true estimate for corona would likely be around 250,000 to 300,000 deaths. It's been FAR worse than even the worst flu season.


Finally, the whole language of comparing death tolls is ridiculous because these are ADDITIONAL deaths. It's not like the corona deaths replaced flu deaths, we actually had a bad flu season this year with more death than normal. Think about it like this - there are about 40,000 gun deaths in the USA every year. Imagine if one year we suddenly had a gun violence epidemic and there were an EXTRA 40,000 more deaths above and beyond the normal count. That would be a big fukking deal, right?

No one would be stupid enough to say, "But we always have 40,000 gun deaths every year, what's an extra 40,000 more?"
 
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@Rhakim is it true that the virus is going to get in full swing and the death rate is going to increase once the cold season sets in? I mean, obviously you can't say for sure, but I would like your professional opinion.
 

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Why do you think random tweets are a good source of information?

First off, the CDC only estimated 61,000 flu deaths in 2018. You're probably looking at an early projection or some shyt that the Republicans are just amplifying for the sake of exaggeration. And that was the worst year in a really long time.

Burden of Influenza


Second of all, that's a ESTIMATE, not the measured number. They only measured a fraction of that. Since they've already directly measured nearly 190,000 coronavirus deaths, the true estimate for corona would likely be around 250,000 to 300,000 deaths. It's been FAR worse than even the worst flu season.


Finally, the whole language of comparing death tolls is ridiculous because these are ADDITIONAL deaths. It's not like the corona deaths replaced flu deaths, we actually had a bad flu season this year with more death than normal. Think about it like this - there are about 40,000 gun deaths in the USA every year. Imagine if one year we suddenly had a gun violence epidemic and there were an EXTRA 40,000 more deaths above and beyond the normal count. That would be a big fukking deal, right?

No one would be stupid enough to say, "But we always have 40,000 gun deaths every year, what's an extra 40,000 more?"

what's your credential breh?
 

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Read the NYP article..

Hydroxychloroquine wasn't mentioned one time in it.. The author of the tweet interjected that..

I was boosting the article, not the woman talking about Hydroxychloroquine.
You positively quoted a guy stating that Trump should have pushed Hydroxychloroquine harder, who was quoting a Tweet by a pro-Trump grifter claiming that Africa was having positive results because hydroxychloroquine was widely available there.

If you were trying to make some completely different point that wasn't anywhere in his post or that Tweet then you probably should have said so rather than quoting it positively and expecting people to interpret that you like some unnamed part of the article instead of the actual content of the post and the tweet. Come on now. :stopitslime:
 

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Just wait and see when these tapes leak. All talk right now by a bunch of authors selling you something.


The tape is already leaked! What the fukk are you even talking about :mindblown:


The truth is that you don't want even want to Google it because there's a part of you that knows how damning it would sound to hear it come from his own mouth.
 

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I see what you're saying, and so let me ask you this.

What do you want to happen to China? the US is not going to go to war with them, because even though the US would win, the fallout would be too intense. Going at a country as developed as China ain't the same as going at Iraq. Even when the US wins an America-china war, everybody would have their nuclear armaments set on taking the US out because they line-stepped.

There's definitely not going to be or should be a war but hopefully with the combined effort of other countries multilateral sanctions could be implemented? I just feel like a clear message should be sent.

Is it their fault that our death toll is so high? No, but I believe they neglected to exhaust all options to prevent this from becoming a pandemic. On purpose? Possibly. :francis:



And yet Xi didn't close his borders until March, 26 to stop the virus coming in from abroad :lolbron:and even then at least one plane per airline per country a week was still allowed to come in and fly out. :stopitslime:
 

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Why do you think random tweets are a good source of information?

First off, the CDC only estimated 61,000 flu deaths in 2018. You're probably looking at an early projection or some shyt that the Republicans are just amplifying for the sake of exaggeration. And that was the worst year in a really long time.

Burden of Influenza


Second of all, that's a ESTIMATE, not the measured number. They only measured a fraction of that. Since they've already directly measured nearly 190,000 coronavirus deaths, the true estimate for corona would likely be around 250,000 to 300,000 deaths. It's been FAR worse than even the worst flu season.


Finally, the whole language of comparing death tolls is ridiculous because these are ADDITIONAL deaths. It's not like the corona deaths replaced flu deaths, we actually had a bad flu season this year with more death than normal. Think about it like this - there are about 40,000 gun deaths in the USA every year. Imagine if one year we suddenly had a gun violence epidemic and there were an EXTRA 40,000 more deaths above and beyond the normal count. That would be a big fukking deal, right?

No one would be stupid enough to say, "But we always have 40,000 gun deaths every year, what's an extra 40,000 more?"

why do you think that you know everything ?

wrong poster. Wrong post.

Don’t let that label make you start believing your own hype :mjlol:
 

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@Rhakim is it true that the virus is going to get in full swing and the death rate is going to increase once the cold season sets in? I mean, obviously you can't say for sure, but I would like your professional opinion.
You mean my amateur opinion lol. It's tough to predict how something will behave seasonally when we haven't even observed it for a full year yet.

Reason to worry: Early research (and I haven't seen anything to contradict it) suggests that the virus survives best in drier air and at around 50 degrees. It can still spread at any temperature, but the further you get from 50 degrees, the less effectively it spreads because it survives in the air and on objects for less time. Those lab tests match what we've seen with the outbreaks coming first and worst in countries that were right around that sort of weather back in March when this all blew up. So there's a chance that when the weather cools down again, it will start spreading much faster just like it did in March/April.

Reason to hope: We don't really know how many people have had the virus yet, or how long they stay immune afterwards. But IF a significant number of people have already had it, and IF they stay immune for long enough, that could seriously slow the spread. Usually (not always) the first hit is the worst because that's when folk have the least immunity.

Reason to worry: In colder weather people tend to spend a lot more time indoors and closer together in groups, which causes diseases to spread more effectively. They can also have their immune system depressed if they're getting too cold

Reason to hope: If folk are still practicing social distancing, that will negate that factor because they won't be gathering in groups indoors.



So it could go either way. If you had to peg me down I would guess that it would get worse in many states as fall and winter approach, especially warm-weather states that have been lucky to have relatively positive conditions, especially states where they might not take social distancing seriously. But hopefully I don't think anyone is going to put up New York numbers again.
 
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