Bobby Brown Could Have Ruled The 90s But Chose Drugs & Complacency Instead...

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Everyone you name had fast songs :dahell:










Get On Up came out like...95 96? That was another world at that point compared to when Jodeci started.

I didn’t mention anything about Boyz 2 Men.

Another Sad Lovr Song doesn’t really constitute as an uptempo song for me. I wasn’t really counting Public Announcement stuff like that to be honest :francis:
 
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This was another song that was written for DBC. Bobby turned it down and it became a hit with Boy George
 

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Kellz was in a different lane. In the 90s, shyt was diverse enough that Luther was still doing well, the girl bands, golden age of rap, Jodeci, Guy, Tevin. Kellz coulda been Prince and Bobby coulda been Mike. Creative genius versus the pop total package. Bobby was legit the only threat to Mike in the late 80s, not Prince who was putting out shyt like Graffiti Bridge. He ruined his voice, looks, dancing for drugs and Whitney. His ego is also is what fukked him up. I remember he started shytting on Babyface and La for some reason. They made 95% of his hits, not Teddy!
I agree, Bobby was different more in the lane usher took over.
Despite that, he wouldn't have been Mike to kell's prince.
Love Bob, love that Era but talent wise he could never be Mike and would have been dwarfed by kell's despite being in slightly different lanes
 
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Bob was still serious about music on his 3rd solo, but it didn’t perform (as) well and NJS was on its death bed, Bobby was gonna hit a decline heading in into the mid 90’s regardless, too much competition from new comers

For the Bobby album he reminded me of Roberto Duran. He won the belt then proceeded to lose focus. It’s clear by the 3rd album he had put on some weight and he wasn’t even dancing as well due to that. Plus by that time the Whitney shyt was in full swing so that heartthrob status was changing

To your point there were plenty of burgeoning new faces on the scene 92. There is simply no reason to wait for 4 years between albums as perhaps the hottest act in the world. Only people like Stevie, Sade, Michael & Maxwell we’re allowed such a privilege. Bobby made music that was youth driven and we all know how quick that can change
 

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That sounds nice, but you basically just described Ralph Tresvant. He was driven, clean, and arguably the most talented of the original group. But he had the least success on his own.

If Bobby was focused he probably never gets kicked out of New Edition and he wouldn’t have went solo until it was too late. And what made him so popular when he did leave was the fact that he was wild on and off stage, and he lived up to the bad boy image. His first album flopped because his label wanted to portray him as a good, clean cut guy and nobody wanted that.
Nah breh Ralph and the rest of NE definitely were using coke, including Johnny. The reasons Ralph wasn't huge in the 90s was because his drug issues and also he wanted to write AND produce his own music. That's where he went wrong. He absolutely needed the likes of Jam & Lewis, Babyface, Teddy, or some of the up and coming super producers of the 90s overseeing his projects. People like to say is because of his gentleman persona and the 90s were all about the street image but they're wrong because Ginuwine was damn near a carbon copy of Rizz and he basically took his spot. You can replace G with Ralph on Ginuwine's first 3 albums and you get the same or better results.
 

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For the Bobby album he reminded me of Roberto Duran. He won the belt then proceeded to lose focus. It’s clear by the 3rd album he had put on some weight and he wasn’t even dancing as well due to that. Plus by that time the Whitney shyt was in full swing so that heartthrob status was changing

To your point there were plenty of burgeoning new faces on the scene 92. There is simply no reason to wait for 4 years between albums as perhaps the hottest act in the world. Only people like Stevie, Sade, Michael & Maxwell we’re allowed such a privilege. Bobby made music that was youth driven and we all know how quick that can change
Having 2-4 years off between albums was common for pretty much everyone back then, so it’s not time off. And everyone was new in 92 when Bobby dropped, they were hot/established by 93/94 along with west coast music taking over culturally, Bobby was gonna fade regardless, breh had been on the scene since 83, outside of the true ascendants like mike, Janet, Mariah, etc, most people ain’t sitting on top for 10 years
 

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I agree, Bobby was different more in the lane usher took over.
Despite that, he wouldn't have been Mike to kell's prince.
Love Bob, love that Era but talent wise he could never be Mike and would have been dwarfed by kell's despite being in slightly different lanes

That dude was selling out tours in Japan at age 21. A legit superstar. He was on the news every night getting arrested in the South for hunching females. Bobby had "it". He would never of course been Mike, nobody ever would have, i mean he and Rkelly could have ruled the 90's in separate kingdoms like Prince and Mike.
 

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For the Bobby album he reminded me of Roberto Duran. He won the belt then proceeded to lose focus. It’s clear by the 3rd album he had put on some weight and he wasn’t even dancing as well due to that. Plus by that time the Whitney shyt was in full swing so that heartthrob status was changing

To your point there were plenty of burgeoning new faces on the scene 92. There is simply no reason to wait for 4 years between albums as perhaps the hottest act in the world. Only people like Stevie, Sade, Michael & Maxwell we’re allowed such a privilege. Bobby made music that was youth driven and we all know how quick that can change

That bobby album had some nice songs but you are right. He didn't look like Bobby any more. He didn't dance like him. His songs lacked urgency. He got fat literally and figuratively. He got complacent and he didn't realize he was heading into one of the most competitive eras in black music history.
 
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Having 2-4 years off between albums was common for pretty much everyone back then, so it’s not time off. And everyone was new in 92 when Bobby dropped, they were hot/established by 93/94 along with west coast music taking over culturally, Bobby was gonna fade regardless, breh had been on the scene since 83, outside of the true ascendants like mike, Janet, Mariah, etc, most people ain’t sitting on top for 10 years

From what I understand they didn’t expect DBC tour to be the hit it became so he was on the road for like 3 years. I know he was supposed to come out in 1990 but it never came to be. Jodeci hit the scene like 91 but you’re right about everyone else being fairly new. I do believe however that he should have been apart of what Uptown was doing to shed that New Jack Swing sound. I just have a hard time believing a guy not even at his mid 20s with his charisma & showmanship would be done when everybody that came along was able to eat off a sound & image he helped to usher in
 

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That dude was selling out tours in Japan at age 21. A legit superstar. He was on the news every night getting arrested in the South for hunching females. Bobby had "it". He would never of course been Mike, nobody ever would have, i mean he and Rkelly could have ruled the 90's in separate kingdoms like Prince and Mike.
I remember all this very well. I idolized Bobby, but he wasn't another Mike, despite being a huge star. He loved being a star, sure. But his musical talent level or love for making great music was never on par with Kell's, prince, or Mike. He was not brilliant at music like them.
 
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I remember all this very well. I idolized Bobby, but he wasn't another Mike, despite being a huge star. He loved being a star, sure. But his musical talent level or love for making great music was never on par with Kell's, prince, or Mike. He was not brilliant at music like them.

I respect that. What I’ll say in response is if he had the right direction & focus he would have been fine. Too much charisma & dancing ability when he was on it. Till this day he wasn’t remembered as some gifted songwriter or singer. What he was however was a guy full of life with crazy moves and iconic songs. The hot minute people thought he was going to be the next Mike it was because he was a force of nature that was must see tv. By 92 he wasn’t Mr Aerobics like he used to be

Laziness

When the world went on without him and Irv did him a favor he came out like a crackhead Lion



People still talk about this video because...

The hook
Bobby’s wild man routine

There’s no absolutely no reason this guy couldn’t have spent the rest of his 20s doing the shyt that made him a superstar
 

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he is absolutely a legend no debate if you was in tune with rnb during that time, but what i'd like to know is what led to him getting his own boulevard named after him in atl since he is from boston
 
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