Bobby Shmurda dancing for a room full of white label execs

[OsO]

nikkaz acting like this performance for those cacs was just a brotha dancing and that's it. You fools don't see the difference between someone dancing in an artful way and what bobby was doing? Even bboying is something where even cacs will appreciate the skill involved as opposed to that monkey dance he put on for an audience that clearly don't even like his music.

You can tell after that meeting cacs prolly sat around laughed at the "n**ger dance" and prolly get drunk together and start emulating those moves because it is the modern way of putting on black face without being "racist". When they emulated MJ's moves or bboying shyt it was on some appreciation of the skill shyt, not for mockery purposes.

so your issue is with the way the dance looks?

so if he was bboying proper it would be all good?

 

[theworldismine13]

i have a serious question for you.

if the content of what he was rapping about was different. say his lyrics were similar to common, mos, or talib kweli. would you still disapprove of the video?

another question.

if everyone in the audience were black and it was a black owned record label, and he was spitting like common, would you still disapprove?

yes and yes

i think your problem is that you see his actions and movements as somehow separate from the music and lyrics and also separate from the people in the room, as if you can analyze each one separately, you cant

if common was in a room full of black people why would he jump around like a monkey while making gun gestures? how would that enhance his lyrics?

this is kanye in a room full of white people



i think this is awkward but its not embarrassing to kanye or to hip hop

his clothes, his voice and movements are one of command, not one of scrounging for approval

shmurda is simply a victim of bad parenting and a greedy industry, both groups told them if you act real "******ish" (for lack of a better term) that he would make some money, thats all thats going on, he believes what the adults told him, what this video did is just expose his parents, la reid and the rap industry as clowns

the question we need to ask is why are we as black people supporting an industry that tells young black men that if you act real ******ish (for lack of a better term) that will lead to the promised land, what exactly is in it for black people as a whole? i would say for black people its time to move on to something else

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

If he was white why wouldn't I also describe him as a monkey?

Because you only see black people as monkeys.

And everything about his dancing including jumping on the table was monkey like that' is why it's embarrassing to watch

Well monkeys don't dance, so your comparison makes no sense. He didn't look like a monkey. He looked like the average black kid that's a good dancer at a party somewhere.

You're just a white liberal fighting for political correctness

@simply not thinking a black kid looks and acts like a monkey being a white liberal position.

@using the term political correctness in 2014.

 

[theworldismine13]

Because you only see black people as monkeys.



Well monkeys don't dance, so your comparison makes no sense. He didn't look like a monkey. He looked like the average black kid that's a good dancer at a party somewhere.



@simply not thinking a black kid looks and acts like a monkey being a white liberal position.

@using the term political correctness in 2014.

and ill say it again, that video was the video of young black man dancing like monkey in a room full of white people while talking about killing black people, it was disgusting and unacceptable

if you disagree its because you arent black or you dont have a sense of history

 

[88m3]

 

[calixprynce]

didn't get to see the video but for everyone judging i encourage you to try and survive for a month on your own where he's from. sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture.

thats a NY nikka for you. You wouldnt catch one of ma yung LA nikkas c00nin like that

 

[Robbie3000]

and ill say it again, that video was the video of young black man dancing like monkey in a room full of white people while talking about killing black people, it was disgusting and unacceptable

if you disagree its because you arent black or you dont have a sense of history

Use white supremacists language to describe other black men, but call for black world domination brehs.

Pathetic.

 

[theworldismine13]

Use white supremacists language to describe other black men, but call for black world domination brehs.

Pathetic.

use the language of white liberals to describe black issues brehs

 

[OsO]

yes and yes

i think your problem is that you see his actions and movements as somehow separate from the music and lyrics and also separate from the people in the room, as if you can analyze each one separately, you cant

if common was in a room full of black people why would he jump around like a monkey while making gun gestures? how would that enhance his lyrics?

actually i see the whole picture... and i've acknowledged the good, bad, and ugly in terms of the video.

but im curious, if this were a video of mos def and kweli performing thieves in the night for a room of black exes at a black record label... what exactly would be your problem with that?

 

[African Peasant]

This image is great. It gives you a resume of the entertainment industry and its effects on the black youth.

 

[theworldismine13]

actually i see the whole picture... and i've acknowledged the good, bad, and ugly in terms of the video.

but im curious, if this were a video of mos def and kweli performing thieves in the night for a room of black exes at a black record label... what exactly would be your problem with that?

well the fact that you ask that question just shows you dont see it as a big picture, you seem to see it as separate things

the issue with shmurda video is that he is jumping around like a monkey while rapping about killing black people in a room full of white people, if the room was filled with black execs it would still be a problem, the room being full of white peope just makes it 100x worse becuase it exposes the reality of who makes up the rap industry

but it is the whole picture that is jarring not the individual components

by itself there isnt a big deal if he was dancing like a monkey by himself or with his friends

by itself, in theory, there is nothing wrong with auditioning at a label's offices

by itself there is nothing wrong with rapping about killing black people as long as there is some artist merit and a point being made

your argument and others seem to be that the individual components are no big deal so therefore the whole situation is not that big of a deal, i think what me and 90% of people are saying is deeper than that, its the history of blackface and buffoonish black people in hollywood, its the history of the rap industry turning from diverse styles into a style of music where 'nikka', 'bytch', 'fuk' and 'shyt' is repeated dozens of times, its the history of corporate labels dominated by white people and a few black execs etc etc etc

so its not just the individual components of the video, its the historical and contemporary context that makes the video bad

and despite what the liberal brigade says, its actually a a white person that would tend to view the video as individual components, most black people see the video and instantly view it as a historical throwback to buffoonish characters in hollywood and of suffocating influence of white/corporate types on black people and black art and the decline of the art of rap, so most black people instantly cringe and gag at the video

as far as your question, we should use the same standard for mos def talib as we did for shmurda, so you need to clarify the hypothetical situation that you are asking about, are talib and def harkening back to buffoonish black characters with the way they move in the room? are they confronting white people in the room or are they trying to please? are they displaying the art of rap or are they doing whatever they think the audience finds entertaining?

overall we shouldnt lie to ourselves, me, you and everybody else with a brain knows what really happened and what is happening, guys like shmurda and chief keef have been told that if you act real ******ish you can make a lot of money from white people and they and the adults around them have brought into it

we as black people need to ask if we are going to continue to support this industry

 

[Serious]

I'm sort of split on this. Because it takes a lot of confidence to do this in a room full of people. I don't like the c00ning aspect of it. Shucking and Jiving to get a deal......but he got the deal and can feed himself and his family because of his antics....shyt this is a hard one to call because 50% of America makes less than 26,000 a year. Do what you gotta do to survive I guess.

yeah but dude is about to raped by record label practices, financially, just for extra exposure.

 

[Insensitive]

No self respecting black man chooses to become a rapper.

Guess I just don't respect myself then

 

[Meta Reign]

well the fact that you ask that question just shows you dont see it as a big picture, you seem to see it as separate things

the issue with shmurda video is that he is jumping around like a monkey while rapping about killing black people in a room full of white people, if the room was filled with black execs it would still be a problem, the room being full of white peope just makes it 100x worse becuase it exposes the reality of who makes up the rap industry

but it is the whole picture that is jarring not the individual components

by itself there isnt a big deal if he was dancing like a monkey by himself or with his friends

by itself, in theory, there is nothing wrong with auditioning at a label's offices

by itself there is nothing wrong with rapping about killing black people as long as there is some artist merit and a point being made

your argument and others seem to be that the individual components are no big deal so therefore the whole situation is not that big of a deal, i think what me and 90% of people are saying is deeper than that, its the history of blackface and buffoonish black people in hollywood, its the history of the rap industry turning from diverse styles into a style of music where 'nikka', 'bytch', 'fuk' and 'shyt' is repeated dozens of times, its the history of corporate labels dominated by white people and a few black execs etc etc etc

so its not just the individual components of the video, its the historical and contemporary context that makes the video bad

and despite what the liberal brigade says, its actually a a white person that would tend to view the video as individual components, most black people see the video and instantly view it as a historical throwback to buffoonish characters in hollywood and of suffocating influence of white/corporate types on black people and black art and the decline of the art of rap, so most black people instantly cringe and gag at the video

as far as your question, we should use the same standard for mos def talib as we did for shmurda, so you need to clarify the hypothetical situation that you are asking about, are talib and def harkening back to buffoonish black characters with the way they move in the room? are they confronting white people in the room or are they trying to please? are they displaying the art of rap or are they doing whatever they think the audience finds entertaining?

overall we shouldnt lie to ourselves, me, you and everybody else with a brain knows what really happened and what is happening, guys like shmurda and chief keef have been told that if you act real ******ish you can make a lot of money from white people and they and the adults around them have brought into it

we as black people need to ask if we are going to continue to support this industry

 

[Micky Mikey]