Bodyguard knocks out woman for talking shyt.... Was he wrong???

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I've never done security so i don't know. I know some members on here have experience. Here's what I'll say. The way i see it, if you are the guy identified as security in a crowded place, and someone tests you and you walk away, especially after you have warned them and given them directions, you will be looked at as food. The other people (who are hyped up and possibly intoxicated) will test you. At that point you are in a WAY more dangerous situation because you lost control of the whole crowd.

As far as if he used too much force... If he was in a 1 on 1 situation at home with his spouse i would have said definitely too much. But again, he is in a crowd seems to be alone or at least outnumbered, doesn't know who will attack him next from behind, and has a tew seconds to make a judgement call in real time while we get to look at the video from the comfort of our home with a broader point of view of what's going on around him and all the time in the world to think about what we would have done. Had he restrained her, his field of vision is narrowed AND his hands are not free. If he hits her, he keeps a broader field of vision so more awareness of what's devolopping around him while keeping his hands free and i will concede that he risks getting the crowd against him and shyt could have gotten ugly. He made the call, i get why he made the call.security is not always simple. It's martial arts, psychology, logistics all in one. Evaluating all options and the risks associated with each, i think he made the right call.

But again, I've never done security so i have no authority to speak on what he should have done.

I hear you, but once again, to walk away was meant for those women plus it means getting away from them. I am not talking about him leaving the whole area.

Next, ain’t nobody going to look at him as food. He is too big for that and I doubt anyone is going to square up with him. If anything, I could see someone shooting him because of his size.

Lastly, I am not excusing the actions of those women. IMO, any person who behaves like them has mental issues! But, in this society, you can’t put your hands on women like that! It isn’t socially acceptable! So, we can simply agree to disagree on how he should have handled the situation. I do appreciate your POV, even if my opinion may differ from yours..
 
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Chelsea Bridge said:
Or maybe you’re allergic to it. Where’s his accountability? Are his actions worthy of being dismissed because you feel like they were justified? Nope.. if he can be excused for his emotional response than her actions should be as well. Especially if you consider the fact she was not attacking him.

She did attack him, though, as I indicated in an earlier post. He was perfectly within his rights as security to put his hands on her to break-up a fight she was engaged in with another person in the line. She retaliated by hitting him with both hands in his chest and on his right side @ -0:26. You can assault someone without ever touching them or causing them any injury. In my state, you can assault someone just by standing in their face. It's called physical menace.
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I bet if she chose to press charges against him, this video won’t be to his benefit.

It actually would since he was doing his job and she assaulted him 4 times.​
 

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The Devil's Advocate said:
Just go through the thread. Starts off with “yea that bytch shouldn’t have hit him”. It’s damn near 100 posts before someone points out, she never actually hit him.

She did hit him at -0:26 with both hands.​

The Devil's Advocate said:
He hit her in the mouth. HER FRIEND DRAGS HER AWAY FROM HIM. At that moment, the problem is deescalated, she’s moving away from him, she’s not even half way conscious

WHY IS HE STILL STANDING NEXT TO HER, 20 FT AWAY? Cause he followed HER after the first punch.

No, he followed THEM to make sure THEY left the venue as he told THEM to and didn't try to get back in and cause further disruption.​

The Devil's Advocate said:
Let me ask. Somebody knock you the fukk out. You come to and that nikka still standing there with his fist balled up.... y’all walking away? Letting him him you 15 more times? Waiting to decide if he’s following you to kill or just calmly make sure you leave?

Anyone with common sense would have left. She, instead, charged him which is assault charge number 3.​

The Devil's Advocate said:
nikkas got 101 excuses to beat women but no reasons to why they’d stop this. Not their momma, sister, friend. Nope. They was all angels, 24/7 and when they wasn’t, they deserve what’s coming

I don't have family members or friends that behave like this.........anymore. When I was hanging with those types of people and they got their ass beat, it was usually their fault. Alcohol makes some cats think they have super powers and lose ALL common sense.
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nikkas is straight clowns. And liars. Ain’t hit a woman them damn selves but become cheerleaders when the next man does.

Some of us are looking at this situation objectively. In another set of circumstances, he'd be dead-ass wrong. In this situation, however, he is a security guard trying to control a messy situation with disruptive patrons who don't listen. He is alone in a crowd of at least 20 people who are under the impression that because of their sex, he won't do anything physical to them. They proceed to 'show their ass' by assaulting him verbally and by physical menace while ignoring his orders to stand down. In hindsight he should have called for assistance in handling the situation, but he was within his rights to do what he did to her as she initiated the confrontation and by taking her out, he de-escalated it in short order and prevented anyone else from considering using similar tactics against him.

We wouldn't even be having this discussion if this were two men involved, but, because one of them is a woman and we have this cultural philosophy about men hitting women being automatically wrong, here we are.

If women want equal rights, that means they have equal accountability for their actions. So all this 'She posed no threat to him' talk is utter nonsense and hypocritical.​
 

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nikka, shut Cho white knight face ass up.

you still talking bullshyt and do not know wtf you talembout.
plus i know you ain't been out the house on no day in no venue like me ever.

just to show how unfocused you are.
Yousa lame stfu and deal with nikkaz...
just offhand calling you a rapist publically goofie.
of which i do not know why they said sumfin so harsh.
yet you need to worry about that.

Instead of obviously not knowing about anything you talembout.



go be a social warrior and defend the rapist allegations against you in this very thread.
if you want a cause to fight for that means sumfin.

this video is just of a person who will have to learn to take accountability.
for any issues she creates or precipitates into violence.
especially when you are ill equipped to handle said situation being precipitated and it harms your well being and safety. All because you are wrong and do not know when to stop. either being told verbally or physically advised to do so.


art barr

The fact you think a grown,intelligent man needs to be worried about a few ignorant kids yapping says it all. Im out here giving life lessons,probably changing a few lives on the way.And here you are telling me I should be sending threats on line.People have called you plenty of things on here I'm sure. Old,retarted,washed,wack rapper,pedo mustache having ass nikka just a few that I can recall. Over the years how many of them have you beat up?Not a damn one.

You was just another lilttle nikka ducking under tables,crawling accross the floor like G.I Joe to the exit during melees at the Pink Slip.No need to get on line and start talking like a big shot:respect:
 

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The fact you think a grown,intelligent man needs to be worried about a few ignorant kids yapping says it all. Im out here giving life lessons,probably changing a few lives on the way.And here you are telling me I should be sending threats on line.People have called you plenty of things on here I'm sure. Old,retarted,washed,wack rapper,pedo mustache having ass nikka just a few that I can recall. Over the years how many of them have you beat up?Not a damn one.

You was just another lilttle nikka ducking under tables,crawling accross the floor like G.I Joe to the exit during melees at the Pink Slip.No need to get on line and start talking like a big shot:respect:



what the fukk.
No as a matter of fact.

this is another one of your fake narratives. You keep making up in your head. . In this bullshyt show you got playing in your head. Where you fabricate you actually did some shyt in yo life. To even talk.
when first off.

why should the pink slip be of any reference to me.
as a venue.
when i would have been rocking the venue and since i am really a cultural artist. The crowd never gave me.
or any one booking issues in the venue. As it was a real cultural based event.
like all hipbop culture based show and i never had to deal with nikkaz talking bullshyt like you.

you nikkaz is frauds on here.
Especially yo duck ass.
As you talking from a duck perspective and you on a hip hop board.
about some false narrative made up bullshyt.
I know far and way in general is always and only happens at shyt ran by toys and duck shyt.
Yousa duck.
that is why you trying to talk about shyt you never did.
especially on my level and if you did. It was because it was fukk'n gifted to you and you still not known and you still wack.

nikka stfu and stop trying to think you smart.
all cause chu not.
two,...no you not shyt to me and yes you can stfu talking to me.

As no interaction with you will ever yield me anything other than putting yo goof lame ass throughed't a table. Yousa goofie and when you get a real life. Like you trying to allude you got. Well then be in an actual drawing hiphop venue first. Then next come knock on a headliner door. You bottom feeding always the lower drawing act on the card to me face ass nikka.

you never drew shyt and i kniw you nit skilled incomparison to me sndyou know and anyone on herr knows it. The major label nikkaz of any type hiding lurking scared of me and my presence in on and off line know it too.
chu never been nowhere face nikkaz living a lie on here. Trying to tell me you ever did shyt more poppin than me. If so, ...where the fukk is this movie you featured in flanking someone. who is by pedigree better than me and where i come from. When if you knew this shyt. It ain't nobody better than me. That is why the fukk i dominate each and every nikka in here. That is why i am that nikka. Where it ain't shyt you gon ever do in yo life.
on par with mine and you and every nikka in life on here and in hip hop knows it. If they think different.

again, knock on thee headliner door. You fukk'n always will be the opening act to me in any venue on any card lil nikka.

now go stfu and go complain to them other lower drawing acts on the card like i give a fukk. All cause i know you ain't on shyt to ever headline a cot damn thing.
when i am around, lil nikka.

ol lower card gotta be at the venue early face ass nikkaz better stfu. You nOt a headliner and reality check. I am the protege to a legend and you not of my pedigree.
nor skill.
to change that dynamic in yo life. in no way or form, physically.
or that your pea brain mental formulate.

nigag fukk you sincerely and again,...
if you got an issue.

look at why my door got headliner.
then your door is the venue bathroom lil nikka.


stfu.

ol lower drawing face ass nikkaz.
nobody knows or gives a fukk why you think you supposed to ever benefit. Like fukk you nikka. Yousa nobody nikka.

like who tha fukk arr you and no you not gon do shyt in you life like me. So stop. If so,...we would know and give a fukk at having the benefit of who knowing who you are.

yet here you are with a blank screen. Plus time to do it. Yet no body gives a fukk cause you are a toy and a phoney ass duck. Now when you do sumfin to benefit yourself as a draw in life. hopefully for you. You paid a pr company to have enough reach for us to give a shyt. as you and we all know. You not gon ever be known for being able to sit with a blank slate and be somebody on my level lil nikka.

now shut Cho non talented regular duck ass face and go be good at a career or sumfin lil nikka. All cause you not on shyt to ever draw in my company.


ol lower card ass nikka. You better go check to see.
if your fade right in a Travel mirror and shut that fukk up.

you ain't gon never have a jerome have a mirror for you.
like me in yo life face ass nikka.


you not gon never be in a combat class on my level either.
to even see me physically and have a chance to do shyt either. So stop your made up in your mind bullshyt.
I live in reality and I really did the shyt nikkaz know about me for real. When you do some real shyt. It won't be on my level or skill. you need to come to accept.
as you not really on my level.

you reminded every day.
you not on a card and agai.
you not ever culturally ever.
gonna be booked on a card over me in yo natural wack ass life ever..

you better go pay a publicist to live a un-naturally fabricated life. You created a false narrative in your head is a real as mine.




art barr
 
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She did attack him, though, as I indicated in an earlier post. He was perfectly within his rights as security to put his hands on her to break-up a fight she was engaged in with another person in the line. She retaliated by hitting him with both hands in his chest and on his right side @ -0:26. You can assault someone without ever touching them or causing them any injury. In my state, you can assault someone just by standing in their face. It's called physical menace.


It actually would since he was doing his job and she assaulted him 4 times.​

I never saw any point where she actually initiated contact with him. Please point that out to me?

I’m beginning to believe that you all are making up the narrative to make her the aggressor in order to justify your stance.
 

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The hate for women on this site is unbelievable...you dudes aren't men forreal...nikkas talking about equal rights and shyt..."she hit him first"....ya'll nikkas should be ashamed of yourselves...but won't and proudly make statements for laughs, daps and unified hate/weakness..
:cape: ole caping as nikka. You hero nikkas never there to save these hoes getting they ass beat in real time.
 

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Chelsea Bridge said:
I never saw any point where she actually initiated contact with him. Please point that out to me?

First time was at -0:35 seconds when she's in his face and she pushes his arm away from her. Assault charge number one.

Second time was at -0:26 seconds when he pulls her away from the other girl she's fighting and, in retaliation, she smacks him with the left hand against his chest, then, with her right hand against his side and yells at him to stop touching her. Assault charge number two. I had to pause that a couple times since the hits are real quick.​

Chelsea Bridge said:
I’m beginning to believe that you all are making up the narrative to make her the aggressor in order to justify your stance.

No need to make up a narrative when the video shows everything in real-time. Now you know what times to watch and this discussion can be concluded.

If she pursues this in a court of law, she'll end-up behind bars for 4 counts of simple assault.​
 

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what the fukk.
No as a matter of fact.

this is another one of your fake narratives. You keep making up in your head. . In this bullshyt show you got playing in your head. Where you fabricate you actually did some shyt in yo life. To even talk.
when first off.

why should the pink slip be of any reference to me.
as a venue.
when i would have been rocking the venue and since i am really a cultural artist. The crowd never gave me.
or any one booking issues in the venue. As it was a real cultural based event.
like all hipbop culture based show and i never had to deal with nikkaz talking bullshyt like you.

you nikkaz is frauds on here.
Especially yo duck ass.
As you talking from a duck perspective and you on a hip hop board.
about some false narrative made up bullshyt.
I know far and way in general is always and only happens at shyt ran by toys and duck shyt.
Yousa duck.
that is why you trying to talk about shyt you never did.
especially on my level and if you did. It was because it was fukk'n gifted to you and you still not known and you still wack.

nikka stfu and stop trying to think you smart.
all cause chu not.
two,...no you not shyt to me and yes you can stfu talking to me.

As no interaction with you will ever yield me anything other than putting yo goof lame ass throughed't a table. Yousa goofie and when you get a real life. Like you trying to allude you got. Well then be in an actual drawing hiphop venue first. Then next come knock on a headliner door. You bottom feeding always the lower drawing act on the card to me face ass nikka.

you never drew shyt and i kniw you nit skilled incomparison to me sndyou know and anyone on herr knows it. The major label nikkaz of any type hiding lurking scared of me and my presence in on and off line know it too.
chu never been nowhere face nikkaz living a lie on here. Trying to tell me you ever did shyt more poppin than me. If so, ...where the fukk is this movie you featured in flanking someone. who is by pedigree better than me and where i come from. When if you knew this shyt. It ain't nobody better than me. That is why the fukk i dominate each and every nikka in here. That is why i am that nikka. Where it ain't shyt you gon ever do in yo life.
on par with mine and you and every nikka in life on here and in hip hop knows it. If they think different.

again, knock on thee headliner door. You fukk'n always will be the opening act to me in any venue on any card lil nikka.

now go stfu and go complain to them other lower drawing acts on the card like i give a fukk. All cause i know you ain't on shyt to ever headline a cot damn thing.
when i am around, lil nikka.

ol lower card gotta be at the venue early face ass nikkaz better stfu. You nOt a headliner and reality check. I am the protege to a legend and you not of my pedigree.
nor skill.
to change that dynamic in yo life. in no way or form, physically.
or that your pea brain mental formulate.

nigag fukk you sincerely and again,...
if you got an issue.

look at why my door got headliner.
then your door is the venue bathroom lil nikka.


stfu.

ol lower drawing face ass nikkaz.
nobody knows or gives a fukk why you think you supposed to ever benefit. Like fukk you nikka. Yousa nobody nikka.

like who tha fukk arr you and no you not gon do shyt in you life like me. So stop. If so,...we would know and give a fukk at having the benefit of who knowing who you are.

yet here you are with a blank screen. Plus time to do it. Yet no body gives a fukk cause you are a toy and a phoney ass duck. Now when you do sumfin to benefit yourself as a draw in life. hopefully for you. You paid a pr company to have enough reach for us to give a shyt. as you and we all know. You not gon ever be known for being able to sit with a blank slate and be somebody on my level lil nikka.

now shut Cho non talented regular duck ass face and go be good at a career or sumfin lil nikka. All cause you not on shyt to ever draw in my company.


ol lower card ass nikka. You better go check to see.
if your fade right in a Travel mirror and shut that fukk up.

you ain't gon never have a jerome have a mirror for you.
like me in yo life face ass nikka.


you not gon never be in a combat class on my level either.
to even see me physically and have a chance to do shyt either. So stop your made up in your mind bullshyt.
I live in reality and I really did the shyt nikkaz know about me for real. When you do some real shyt. It won't be on my level or skill. you need to come to accept.
as you not really on my level.

you reminded every day.
you not on a card and agai.
you not ever culturally ever.
gonna be booked on a card over me in yo natural wack ass life ever..

you better go pay a publicist to live a un-naturally fabricated life. You created a false narrative in your head is a real as mine.




art barr


I aint about to read all that,I know for a fact you haven't lived an extraordinary life. Maybe for someone who has autism,and at best was special ed,but not in general. You've been copying and pasting the same responses for years now about what you used to do. I wasn't impressed the first 100 times you told us about who you are and what you used to do.You that old nikka that come around the youth who tells them about his old war stories and ho's he used to fukk because he ain't got shyt going on right now. A damn elder who wanna seem cool to some god damn kids,you should be ashamed. You are a lil nikka to me,I am your O.G now. Until you decide you want to act like a grown man,and stop talking about putting people through imaginary tables.Until you decide to stop trying to be cool to the youth,and actually teach them some wisdom. You are just another gmo'd baby boomer stuck in a zootopian mindstate. Also I don't rap btw,if I did I certaintly wouldn't brag about it if I had been doing it for decades and never made it. Can't be much of a legend when girls who rapped for a couple years about drlling shyt got more name recognition and respect than you. Stop acting like your name ring bells in the streets,at best you are a hit among balding white men in Wutang shirts. At worst you have absolutely 0 fans,which is what I truly suspect:respect:
 

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Nah. He wasn't wrong. I done hit and full nelsoned bytches out the club wanting to put hands on me or spit or scratch or this one bytch who took a shyt in front of the club and started to throw it.
 
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