Boogie Cousins: 2nd Straight 20/20/10 Triple Double

[Malta]

The disrespect for Boogie oh my

i guess once he finally made the all star squad, it became uncool to like cousins

He's a beast period, and deserves a better squad

He's a center, name one center that posted big numbers like this and couldn't drive his team to at least a .500 record.

It's not even a matter of it being uncool, how many more losing seasons is this dude gonna get a pass for? People calling him a beast, nah beastly centers were good enough to make a major impact on both sides of the floor, he's a good offensive center with gaudy numbers at first glance and when you inspect them closer it's just like tonight, 20 rebounds and not a single offensive board

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Heard the Suns inquired about him earlier in the year.


Maybe something like Bledsoe, Len, and a 1st.


Bledsoe & Brandon Knight is redundant.One of them has to go.Personally, I think Knight has more upside.


But it might take one of them and some other assets to get Boogie

 

[Pesci]

I think everyone was high on Cousins, then the herpes started to flare up, he stopped playing any hint of defense and you're just left with big numbers across the board (turnovers included).

Things I cut him slack for: the Kings organization is bottom 10 in the league, unstable coaching regimes, seemingly random roster moves.

However, his night-to-night effort is still questionable, and this is his 5th year as a pro. That's just unacceptable, IMO.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you were ing hard for Cousins at the all-star break. giving him credit for being his team's only option. now you're killing him for putting up empty stats on a shyt team.

interesting.

I was just @VMR

Although to be perfectly honest, there's truth to him putting up 'empty stats', and although I don't like the term - there isn't much difference between him and Love, except when you factor Boogie's shooting percentage without him taking any 3-pointers - it's certainly not a good look.

I wonder if the coli will treat him like they do Love, if Sac continue to miss the playoffs.

 

[Malta]

Things I cut him slack for: the Kings organization is bottom 10 in the league, unstable coaching regimes, seemingly random roster moves.

However, his night-to-night effort is still questionable, and this is his 5th year as a pro. That's just unacceptable, IMO.

The Kings are a bad organization but he also doesn't help matters, he wanted out once before and has quit on coaches before.


He's a good player, but he's going to need so many different defensive players around him just to get his team to .500 it makes you wonder how good he is. Plus, his usage rate is fukking crazy, he's got a higher usage rate than prime Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing etc ever posted. I think he's looking more and more like he should be a number 2, the lack of defense is just and while everyone calls him a beast and shyt, the same people are turning around to use him as an example of why Jahlil Okafor shouldn't go #1.

 

[DeVanteSwing]

He's a center, name one center that posted big numbers like this and couldn't drive his team to at least a .500 record.

It's not even a matter of it being uncool, how many more losing seasons is this dude gonna get a pass for? People calling him a beast, nah beastly centers were good enough to make a major impact on both sides of the floor, he's a good offensive center with gaudy numbers at first glance and when you inspect them closer it's just like tonight, 20 rebounds and not a single offensive board

This is the same organization that drafted nik stauskas who currently comes off the bench and just recently showed some type of worth to the organization all thanks to a slip up on TV, drafted jimmer over klay thompson, drafted T-rob then traded. They fired Malone, who isn't a Brad Stevens, but got the team in a decent direction, and most importantly controlled Cousins. Its a shytty organization, not cousins fault

I've watched Demarcus a lot, there are nights where he is simply unguardable, but of course since there isn't much help around, you'd constantly see 2-3 guys come over and jump all over him, mostly resulting in a non foul, a miss/turnover with Cousins slowing walking to the other end of the court as he complains to the refs. Boogie doesn't get calls

i know ppl thinking it's a kevin love situation, shytty team = numbers, but it's opposite. I truly believe once the kings can finally get it together, the team will be great and demarcus will still get his numbers. He's way more dominant than love

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This is the same organization that drafted nik stauskas who currently comes off the bench and just recently showed some type of worth to the organization all thanks to a slip up on TV, drafted jimmer over klay thompson, drafted T-rob then traded. They fired Malone, who isn't a Brad Stevens, but got the team in a decent direction, and most importantly controlled Cousins. Its a shytty organization, not cousins fault

I've watched Demarcus a lot, there are nights where he is simply unguardable, but of course since there isn't much help around, you'd constantly see 2-3 guys come over and jump all over him, mostly resulting in a non foul, a miss/turnover with Cousins slowing walking to the other end of the court as he complains to the refs. Boogie doesn't get calls

i know ppl thinking it's a kevin love situation, shytty team = numbers, but it's opposite. I truly believe once the kings can finally get it together, the team will be great and demarcus will still get his numbers. He's way more dominant than love

He's more dominant in the post than Love is/was, but Love stretches the floor more than he does - their impacts on the game are eerily similar.

 

[DeVanteSwing]

He's more dominant in the post than Love is/was, but Love stretches the floor more than he does - their impacts on the game are eerily similar.

cousins doesnt just score in the post, he can work outside as well

 

[Llcoolbay]

Empty stats, dude is a black hole on offense and is just to me now.

22 shots for 24pts tonight and 25 shots for 24pts last night, he'll get his numbers, turn the ball over 5 times a game and the squad will lose by 20. No other position in the league has as big of an impact on wins and losses as center, yet his squad is always ass.

Malta not fukking with boogie

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

cousins doesnt just score in the post, he can work outside as well

That's not what I said, I said Love stretches the floor more. You'd think a big man that doesn't take any 3-pointers would shoot better than 46%. Love shot 45% last season and he took 6.6 3-pointers a game. There's basically no difference between their impacts on the game.

Love 2013/2014 - 26.1 ppg at 45% shooting on 18.5 shots, 12.5 rpg, 4.4 apg, 0.5 bpg and 2.5 turnovers
Boogie 2014/2015 - 24.1 ppg at 46% shooting on 18.0 shots, 12.7 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.8 bpg and 4.2 turnovers

Their #s are basically identical. One isn't way more dominant than the other. Boogie has a slight advantage in defense (although this isn't saying much since Love was well below average), and Love has the advantage on the offensive end - two more points while only taking .5 of a shot more and with relatively the same usage rate, almost less than half the turnovers. They're both two of the most talented big men in the league, yet since they give far up far too much on the defensive end - they both need to play alongside a defensive big in order to level out their inabilities on that end of the court.

 

[DeVanteSwing]

got it

i don't think boogie's too bad on defense, def not like love on that one, wouldn't say he's a liability

 

[Digga38]

need an impact 1 to play with a guy like him to cut down on his turnovers....

Gay is a black hole and cant play D....(pause)

lets not forget he is playing in the west....on a bad team

 

[42 Monks]

Looking like the second coming of Al Jeff

 

[Brozay]

I'm telling you, watch the games and his numbers suddenly don't seem so impressive

He seems like a horrible dude to play with. He eats up so many possessions without even thinking about passing. So many of his points come outside the flow of any sort of offense. It's just him isoing and putting up shots over two people. His style is just not conducive to winning. Even his assists are a mirage... he makes some really really nice passes, don't get me wrong, but it's usually just him making a bailout pass when he's held the ball for 15 seconds and has no shot, and not to mention all the horrible turnovers. You watch a great bigman passer like Noah, and all of his assists come within the flow of the offense, big difference with Cousins

It's no surprise he's never been on a winner, his game is just not something you can build around. It's so fukking ugly at times, just bully ball or him driving from the top of the key

He can be a great player but it's gonna take proper coaching, and an alpha type player that is ahead of him in the basketball food chain

 

[Greenstrings]

Empty stats, dude is a black hole on offense and is just to me now.

22 shots for 24pts tonight and 25 shots for 24pts last night, he'll get his numbers, turn the ball over 5 times a game and the squad will lose by 20. No other position in the league has as big of an impact on wins and losses as center, yet his squad is always ass.

You're going to end up wrong on this if he finds himself in a better situation.