Boosie says Keefe D can say whatever he wants to say bout PAC cuz aint no one ridin for HIM...

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Yea. My thing is with Pac. It just seemed like whoever he’s rolling with he gets deep wit it. Like before Death Row he was already rollin wit Crips real heavy. Even Lord Jamar said he saw Pac in a whip full of crips like it wasnt nothin. Noone really started accusing him of bangin until he hit Death Row tho because of how loud Death Row and bloods in general are. I honestly think Pac had abandonment issues which is why he was quick to embrace people and quick to cut em off if he felt they wronged him in any kind of way. Sad to say he was really reckless and ended up learning his lesson the hard way. Smh.
Yeah i think that’s pretty much on point.... I think the banging on deathrow comes from him going deeper into mob then wen he was rollin with crips with thug life ie.. the mob tattoo/ shouting mob in dozens ov songs / shouting out there o.gs / n the last thing from certain people’s point ov view the baby lane situation on some gang-politics I think that’s where that separates the deathrow Pac to the thuglife pre-deathrow pac but what you said about quick to embrace and cut off i think your totally right about that ...
 

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Yeah I know bro ... but after suge got out in 2001 suge didn’t have the stuff you mentioned he was a shell ov himself ... n stil I don’t recall 1 time anyone pressing suge over biggie ... u the homie aswell just we gona Agree to disagree sometimes .....that’s why altho suge n pac moved wrong during that beef I will always give suge/ pirus more respect then biggies crew for at least responding to pac getting killed .. yeah it didn’t work but at least they tryed to get some kind ov street justice .....it is what it is ....

:yeshrug:

When the feds follow you they know exactly what you do where you’re are where you’re heading and everything about you the fact that biggie was killed while they was following him YET they never stepped in to try to get justice for a man with a mother, wife, kids & millions of love ones ONLY leads me to believe they was just focusing on destroying him, puff, bad boy, & all their affiliates

Again it is what it is .... and as you said this is something that we will just have to agree to disagree on

peace
 

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Pac shouldve def moved smarter but Pac was always how he was. Even before Death Row the nikka was reckless. That shyt changes with growth. Pac was livin in the fast lane forreal tho. Im pretty sure he would’ve slowed down sooner than later if he lived.


that's why he got shot the 1st time.
and he learned nothing from it.

also, he was putting his Compton homies in danger. cuz had pac made it out of vegas, those dudes were the ones who had to go back to the trenches.


True ..... suge should have been a better “big bro” aswell n actully guilded pac in a better direction .... that’s why I always say musically pacs move to deathrow was the best for him but off the mic he was getting too involved with all that piru shyt to me personally I know some cats say it was just a loyalty thing but there’s ways ov been loyal to a crew without making yourself a target ....it is what it is ..... it would be very interesting to see how long that beef with badboy would have continued tho had both pac n big survived ..:jbhmm:


suge was in the same boat as pac. they basically enabled each other.
he needed a big bro as well.
get into the gang life after you already made it brehs.

as for bad boy/death row calling a truce, somebody had to die.
 

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that's why he got shot the 1st time.
and he learned nothing from it.

also, he was putting his Compton homies in danger. cuz had pac made it out of vegas, those dudes were the ones who had to go back to the trenches.





suge was in the same boat as pac. they basically enabled each other.
he needed a big bro as well.
get into the gang life after you already made it brehs.

as for bad boy/death row calling a truce, somebody had to die.
That’s what the goons are there for tho .... so they should expect that shyt going back to the trenches... n yeah I feel pac decisions to get deep into the mob piru shyt was basically him wanting to feel accepted and have a army of goons behind him in his war against the eastcoast cats he had beef with ....n yeah I’ve always wondered what the outcome of the deathrow vs badboy beef would have been had Vegas not took place ...n I to came to the conclusion someone was gona die behind it some way or other .. n as far as that .... am stil sorta convinced it was kinda not just a deathrow vs badboy beef but I actully think it was abit on some east vs west ... there was plenty ov artists and fans on each coast on some fukk the other side shyt I don’t think it was just alll media hype like everyone was trying to down play it ....
 

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@spliz @kingofnyc @Nomad1 what’s your views on this ..... we all know it was a deathrow vs badboy beef yeah .... but me personally looking at everyone n certain artists/fans .... it did kinda seem like a east vs west thing ... I know a lot ov artists were down playing that saying the media just made that up and hyped it ... yeah the media did that ... that’s true .. but I also think there was some truth to it also ... you had artists /fans on each side hating the other side ... what’s your view ??
 

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Pac Stans? You sound like a bytch, though I'm not surprised that your predictable ass is saying that based on ya location.
 

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It wasnt a gang issue. It was a fukkin DEATH ROW issue. There was a bounty on DEATH ROW chains. Meaning ANYONE on DEATH ROW could get caught slippin whether they was a gang member or not. A nikka try to rob one of ya mans and is carrying out bounties on ya crew. That shyt is UR business nikka. Should Pac have done that being that he was a famous rapper? No. But this has always been Pac’s personality since the beginning. Anyone who has known Pac for years has said the same thing. They werent surprised at his reaction. He’s been like that even when he was on tour wit DU.

No point engaging with that guy he's a troll or sheltered.
 

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@spliz @kingofnyc @Nomad1 what’s your views on this ..... we all know it was a deathrow vs badboy beef yeah .... but me personally looking at everyone n certain artists/fans .... it did kinda seem like a east vs west thing ... I know a lot ov artists were down playing that saying the media just made that up and hyped it ... yeah the media did that ... that’s true .. but I also think there was some truth to it also ... you had artists /fans on each side hating the other side ... what’s your view ??
Pac's homies are either dead, in jail, too old and unfortunately some are fake and not with it. But Pac is the most loved rapper of all time a few nikkas talking slick doesnt change that.
Personally, I noticed a lot of people got this type of courage to say shyt after Afeni died which is fukked :yeshrug:. Dead celebrities like MJ have it a lot worse so im glad Pac's legacy is still positive.
 

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Nikkas only defend Pac on some message board shyt.

Treach aint do shyt, Shock G is and always have been on some positive vibes type wave , Napoleon didn't even kill his family's murderer when he had the green light while locked up with him, Suge locked up and none of them west coast nikkas are gonna pull up due to gang politics between different hoods.

Funkmaster Flex aint been touched
Wack 100 aint been touched
Nobody gettin touched behind the Pac slander
Did you forget about Taxstone?
 

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Pac's homies are either dead, in jail, too old and unfortunately some are fake and not with it. But Pac is the most loved rapper of all time a few nikkas talking slick doesnt change that.
Personally, I noticed a lot of people got this type of courage to say shyt after Afeni died which is fukked :yeshrug:. Dead celebrities like MJ have it a lot worse so im glad Pac's legacy is still positive.
I think u misread my question bro .... I wasn’t talking about pac in general .... was asking about your opinion was it strictly a deathrow vs badboy beef it was there some truth to it been a easy vs west ??
 

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I think u misread my question bro .... I wasn’t talking about pac in general .... was asking about your opinion was it strictly a deathrow vs badboy beef it was there some truth to it been a easy vs west ??
My bad I thought it was connected to the thread topic.
Now looking at this whole thing, I think it was a Death Row vs Badboy and the media was milking east and west and artists from both sides rode on that to a certain extent for money/publicity
 

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@spliz @kingofnyc @Nomad1 what’s your views on this ..... we all know it was a deathrow vs badboy beef yeah .... but me personally looking at everyone n certain artists/fans .... it did kinda seem like a east vs west thing ... I know a lot ov artists were down playing that saying the media just made that up and hyped it ... yeah the media did that ... that’s true .. but I also think there was some truth to it also ... you had artists /fans on each side hating the other side ... what’s your view ??


it definitely was NOT an East Coast vs an West Coast beef
it was more like jealous nikkaz vs non jealous nikkaz beef

dem nikkaz in da red owned the industry till dem nikkaz in da blue took over

so da nikkaz in red hated dem nikkaz in blue

it is / what it is .....................:manny:
 
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