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Dead end hip hop?
Yall pick the biggest losers to follow
Born Sinner vs GKMC, and the all around impact of Cole & Kendrick on the game..
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Dead end hip hop?
Yall pick the biggest losers to follow
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
both are fire
Jordan_Craft
Rookie
Cole's album is disappointing..AGAIN. The difference of the two is Kendrick continues to show growth and transformation. From Overly Dedicated, Section.80 to GKMC, you see growth, you hear the greatness. From Friday Night Lights to Sideline Story to Born Sinner, there is no difference. Friday Night Lights is still better than his 2 albums. Cole's album reminds me of JaVale McGee; Shows flashes then continues to disappoint. 
GKMC is superior in just about every single way and i can see myself playing it years from now.
Born Sinner while an improvement on his first, is a decent album that fits into the "enjoyable at the time" category and will be pretty much forgotten by the end of the year unless someone wants to bring up how he matched up to Kanye in sales.
Born Sinner while an improvement on his first, is a decent album that fits into the "enjoyable at the time" category and will be pretty much forgotten by the end of the year unless someone wants to bring up how he matched up to Kanye in sales.
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
Whether people want to admit it or not Kendrick Lamar kind of made a different sound a bit more popular and it helped J Cole. Not saying J Cole has to thank Kendrick or those good numbers were the direct result but Kendrick did help change the sound of mainstream Hip Hop.
How is it overrated? ?
Its overrated because its an album wih average production and average lyrics that's being hailed as a classic
bytch don't kill my vibe
[Verse 1:]
Look inside my soul and you can find gold and maybe get rich
Look inside of your soul and you can find out it never exist
I can feel the changes
I can feel a new life
I always knew life can be dangerous
I can say that I like a challenge and you tell me it's painless
You don't know what pain is
How can I paint this picture
When the color blind is hanging with ya
Fell on my face and I woke with a scar
Another mistake living deep in my heart
Buried on top of my sleeve in a flick
I can admit that it did look like yours
Why you resent every making of this
Tell me your purpose is petty again
But even a small lighter can burn a bridge
Even a small lighter can burn a bridge
This is a lyrical masterpiece to y'all?
WickedGames
Superstar
I got love for Cole but "Born Sinner" doesn't deserve to be in the same coversation as GKMC 
Because it's simply not true.
Kanye changed the game in '04. He was one of the first rappers to come in the game with a backpack steez but fit right in with the mainstream. In '07 he crushed Curtis and that killed the popularity of gangsta rap in the mainstream. There hasn't been a super successful new gangsta rapper since Graduation.
Lupe Fiasco is the next important man in the shift. Not J. Cole. Everyone else.... literally everyone else is Kanye/Lupe/Pharrell's children.
Without College Dropout J. Cole doesn't get signed by Jay-Z.
SummerNights
Pro
Born Sinner is a pathetic attempt at biting of what the masses want after the GKMC wave
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
Saying that literally everyone else is in the mold of Kanye Lupe etc. is a ridiculous statement. Mainstream hip-hop from 2005-now for the most part still is ignorant gibberish. Kanye def changed the game when he came in but to say that mainstream rap has been backpack rap since Kanye came in is non-sense. 2Chains, Waka, Gucci, Jeezy, Ross, Meek(Gangsta rap) , etc. and that's just scratching the surface and actually some of the more tolerable ignorance that mainstream rap has seen. French Montana, Tyga, I can go on for days with rappers who make trash that is far from anything Kanye once made or Lupe has made.
In 2012-2013 Cole and Kendrick are the two main young guys making real hip-hop with Kendrick's album leading the way for lyricism and cohesive concept albums being accepted in the mainstream and hopefully continuing to be pushed by the big record labels.
Soulja boy, Plies, T-Pain all on the Billboard charts around the time The Come Up dropped
I'm sure I'm in the minority but neither resonate to me as a classic. GKMC is really good but the reason why people give it the "classic" stamp because it is telling a story and songs are well placed. The music, song by song is no better than Section 80. Obviously a mixtape so kinda unfair to compare them
BS is really good and the songs all play through just like GKMC and tells a concept of sinning. I don't think this is better than Warm up or FNL but once again mixtapes.
Lyrically we know where both artist stand, nothing to talk about there but THAT is the all around impact these dudes will have on the industry and we are already seeing it in a positive light from what I see. Like Jadakiss said in the breakfast club interview... we need the molly rap but that is only going to go so far. At the end of the day we want to actually listen to real lyrics.
BS is really good and the songs all play through just like GKMC and tells a concept of sinning. I don't think this is better than Warm up or FNL but once again mixtapes.
Lyrically we know where both artist stand, nothing to talk about there but THAT is the all around impact these dudes will have on the industry and we are already seeing it in a positive light from what I see. Like Jadakiss said in the breakfast club interview... we need the molly rap but that is only going to go so far. At the end of the day we want to actually listen to real lyrics.
Both are really good albums... I applaud these 2 emcee's for dropping damn good albums... P. Diddy is correct when he said GKMC brought back competition to the game. 2 of the best albums I've heard from the newer generation...
Wale dropped his debut album in 2009 on Interscope. Wale had a massive push. Kendrick - had a massive push. J. Cole has had a massive push. My point is, these artists are getting the big pushes because the labels know that these are now the artists that have the most potential to sell albums.
There's not a gangsta rapper in his 20's with a Gold album plaque.
Like I said - Jeezy and Ross pre-date Graduation. They received the big pushes earlier and garnered a lot of fans that have stayed loyal. They are also the biggest artists of that type. Nobody else you mentioned has a gold album.
Point is, J. Cole and Kendrick aren't breaking the mould. They are billed as the premier acts on their labels and they've had a lot of marketing dollars behind them. I love K.Dot's music but he was pushed so hard by the industry. Jay-Z had Beanie as the premier act on Rocafella (other than himself), that type of act sold the most albums at that time (DMX for example). Jay-Z has J.Cole as the premier act RocNation, that type of artist pushes the most albums (Drake for example)