#bothsides former education secretary Betsy Devos calls for abolishing the department of education

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Don’t have the resources to do so. But maybe instead of you bootlickers coming together to tell black people who to vote for you could make a call for black people to unify and pool their resources together for their own schools?

But that would mean you’re about empowering black people which you’re not. You’re about empowering democrats



Typical. Anything involving the progression of black people involves voting. Nothing about the power they hold in their hands to improve their situation without the help of a system that has held foot on neck season for centuries

Why don't you MAGA shills stand up and do something instead of sitting on your ass pointing fingers at everybody else for once? You claim you know what black ppl should be doing. What's stopping you from putting out a call for black people to start a school instead of being a keyboard warrior? You MAGA boot licking shills are worthless.

 

[ORDER_66]

I mean why didn't she do that under Trump... real talk she was a token bullshyt leader that paid for her position and did nothing to help the DOE... now she wants to lander to maga to destroy the board of Ed. To keep white people ignorant and stupid...

 

[DaddyFresh]

Amazon is said to run out of workers in the next couple years. The rich going to put their kids in nice private schools and the average kid aint going ot get a real education so they can create more low skilled workers they can pay crumbs. The uneducated are also much easier to control

 

[DaddyFresh]

I mean why didn't she do that under Trump... real talk she was a token bullshyt leader that paid for her position and did nothing to help the DOE... no she wants to lander to maga to destroy the board of Ed. To keep white people ignorant and stupid...

Because she doesnt have that power? But bet your ass she was undermining it left and right if you actually read.

 

[Reflected]

States already don't hold Federal Government influence on schooling, so that point is a weak one

NY, NJ, and MA are a few of the best states with great public education. While you have Mississippi and plenty of others as one of the worst. If you have public school systems that are so diametrically opposed, then what good is the Federal Government on their influence of education? State Government have always had the power over Federal when it comes to Education

When I say federal, I don't just mean national but also public, as in publicly funded schooling. Republicans will treat federal as any public funding, aka government having a hand on anything to do with schooling. They want government out of schools for reasons I have already stated.

What you are currently getting at can be explained, most of what you are highlighting comes from legislation dating back to the Bush presidency, such as the No Child Left Behind Act and what followed from that, something Obama was only able to make amends to in order to alleviate the disaster, but it was far from enough.

But you are making my argument, you highlighted some of the states with the best public education, the goal is replicate that at a national level, we do that though nationwide legislation. You have an issue with some handling of the fed, I'm saying we can fix that with better elected officials that seek to alleviate the disparity of schooling from district to district, and state to state. We can then work towards alleviating the tie between these companies and schools, and supplement that with more public funding, which has to happen federally. We can set better national standards too, so you don't run into kids from Alabama not being able to compete with kids from Massachusetts.

I don't see what we are disagreeing on, I'm for simply replicating what is done in countries that outdo the U.S. on performance at k-12, which requires the government, Republicans want the government out.

 

[Unfiltered]

Let DeSantis or Trump get back in power in 2024, they will certainly weaken it to the point that it's useless. Then add a bunch of money to charter schools. This is all by design while the democrats are sleep at the wheel like they did with playing the long game to get the majority in the Supreme Court. Wake up Dems them Republicans are still playing long game.

Definitely see scam for profit schools coming back and targeting the poor kids, I know cuz I went to one.

They definitely want to abolish education for all they need their low labor jobs.

Also Betsy caught major eat over her handling of the borrowers defense applications she purposely made them wait to make kids suffer.

 

[Everythingg]

Why don't you MAGA shills stand up and do something instead of sitting on your ass pointing fingers at everybody else for once? You claim you know what black ppl should be doing. What's stopping you from putting out a call for black people to start a school instead of being a keyboard warrior? You MAGA boot licking shills are worthless.

Huh? I tell people all the time to educate themselves instead of relying on the system to do so for them. It doesn’t benefit the system to educate the populace properly which is why they don’t teach people about taxes or gardening or hunting. It’s all about creating worker bees so the system continues on.

I say empower black people by having them create their own schools and your reaction is to call me MAGA? Why? Because I’m not down with empowering cac democrats like you are.

shyt is

 

[UpAndComing]

When I say federal, I don't just mean national but also public, as in publicly funded schooling. Republicans will treat federal as any public funding, aka government having a hand on anything to do with schooling. They want government out of schools for reasons I have already stated.

What you are currently getting at can be explained, most of what you are highlighting comes from legislation dating back to the Bush presidency, such as the No Child Left Behind Act and what followed from that, something Obama was only able to make amends to in order to alleviate the disaster, but it was far from enough.

But you are making my argument, you highlighted some of the states with the best public education, the goal is replicate that at a national level, we do that though nationwide legislation. You have an issue with some handling of the fed, I'm saying we can fix that with better elected officials that seek to alleviate the disparity of schooling from district to district, and state to state. We can then work towards alleviating the tie between these companies and schools, and supplement that with more public funding, which has to happen federally. We can set better national standards too, so you don't run into kids from Alabama not being able to compete with kids from Massachusetts.

I don't see what we are disagreeing on, I'm for simply replicating what is done in countries that outdo the U.S. on performance at k-12, which requires the government, Republicans want the government out.

Can't change the definition when it suits you. I'm discussing Federal vs State as it is defined as it pertains to governing Education

When you are ready to talk about that, then let me know

 

[Unfiltered]

Amazon is said to run out of workers in the next couple years. The rich going to put their kids in nice private schools and the average kid aint going ot get a real education so they can create more low skilled workers they can pay crumbs. The uneducated are also much easier to control

I did Amazon too it's some slave work. They work people to death.

You 100% right on everything you said. They banking on people taking lower paying jobs so they getting rid of the mindset of education to achieve.

 

[Reflected]

Can't change the definition when it suits you. I'm discussing Federal vs State as it is defined as it pertains to governing Education

When you are ready to talk about that, then let me know

Why do you think Devos wants the DoE out? It's because they set standards that states must meet as a bare minimum, such as providing schooling, providing a specific standard of education. All of that costs money and makes private schooling less competitive with public schooling, by weaking the public school by doing away with federal standard they increase the gap and more money flows to them, while also allowing them to teach what they want. Can you highlight this part of my post if you are actually reading the entirety of it?

But I don't have a problem with state control, Devos has a problem with that. lol I just want the Fed to secure better standards.

Why are we arguing right now?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Huh? I tell people all the time to educate themselves instead of relying on the system to do so for them. It doesn’t benefit the system to educate the populace properly which is why they don’t teach people about taxes or gardening or hunting. It’s all about creating worker bees so the system continues on.

I say empower black people by having them create their own schools and your reaction is to call me MAGA? Why? Because I’m not down with empowering cac democrats like you are.

shyt is

No I call you a bootlicking MAGA shill cause thats what you are. You been on here running interference for your daddy Trump for years. Then you pretend as if you're for black empowerment when if you really were, nobody that's for black empowerment would even PRETEND as if they supported Trump or any of his racist policies. You hate black people. You're as much of a c00n as Clarence Thomas.

 

[UpAndComing]

Why do you think Devos wants the DoE out? It's because they set standards that states must meet as a bare minimum, such as providing schooling, providing a specific standard of education. All of that costs money and makes private schooling less competitive with public schooling, by weaking the public school by doing away with federal standard they increase the gap and more money flows to them, while also allowing them to teach what they want. Can you highlight this part of my post if you are actually reading the entirety of it?

But I don't have a problem with state control, Devos has a problem with that. lol I just want the Fed to secure better standards.

Why are we arguing right now?

Maybe people want less funding and bureaucracy in a Federal Government Department that has minimal power on how Education is governed, ever thought about that?
I've made this point for a 2nd time and you still keep skipping over it to make your point, which is interesting

Added to the fact that you have Private school, Religious school, Charter schools, and Homeschooling which the Federal Government has even less control over

 

[ORDER_66]

Because she doesnt have that power? But bet your ass she was undermining it left and right if you actually read.

I know what she was doing when she was there... that's not the point I was making. She's talking tough shyt to an magafied audience now but she literally has no power to accomplish what she's saying... she's just talking that shyt pandering to the crowd...

 

[Everythingg]

No I call you a bootlicking MAGA shill cause thats what you are. You been on here running interference for your daddy Trump for years. Then you pretend as if you're for black empowerment when if you really were, nobody that's for black empowerment would even PRETEND as if they supported Trump or any of his racist policies. You hate black people. You're as much of a c00n as Clarence Thomas.

Now you’re lying for daps. Nobody who is MAGA is going to tell black people that they are best served educating themselves rather than relying on a system that has oppressed them for centuries? Aren’t they the ones trying to change slavery into involuntary relocation?

But instead of address black people being best served educating themselves you deflect. Because all you care about is empowering democrats. To you empowering democrats and hoping they help black people IS empowering black people. Complete clown shyt

 

[Reflected]

Maybe people want less funding and bureaucracy in a Federal Government Department that has minimal power on how Education is governed, ever though about that?
I've made this point for a 2nd time and you still keep skipping over it to make your point, which is interesting

Added to the fact that you have Private school, Religious school, and Homeschooling which the Federal Government has even less control over

Yeah, so I put a question in my post that asked you to highlight it if you were actually reading my post. As I suspected, you aren't reading shyt, so I see no reason to converse with you ever again.

Why do you think Devos wants the DoE out? It's because they set standards that states must meet as a bare minimum, such as providing schooling, providing a specific standard of education. All of that costs money and makes private schooling less competitive with public schooling, by weaking the public school by doing away with federal standard they increase the gap and more money flows to them, while also allowing them to teach what they want. Can you highlight this part of my post if you are actually reading the entirety of it?

But I don't have a problem with state control, Devos has a problem with that. lol I just want the Fed to secure better standards.

Why are we arguing right now?