Brazil Gangs Want all the smoke with Bolsonaro

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shyts gonna get ugly...im sure these bombings etc were most likely perpetrated by government in order to give them political cover to operate freely. but honestly shyt like this plays into his hands and the people will support him (even lowkey the people in the favelas). and with 65K murders, i can understand why. that is just crazy.
 
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will the robin hood narrative be applied to these degenerates because the president is unpopular with certain folks?
OR
will the degenerates get rightfully shytted on, while tying to hold the president accountable ?
 

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Call the man anything you want , what are you supposed to do when you're facing a stat like this?

You have too wipe the gangs out , there isn't any other option short term. Unlike bloods and crips, these gangs have no respect and will kill anyone even police
You start by fixing the institutions and making them more trustworthy. Trying to irradiate gangs without fixing the the real problem, simply generates more gang members with less structure....
 

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ive been largely quiet about whats going on down there, but trump is revered by a lot of these right wing CACs down there, right down to tribute posters. thing is,its always been like this with the military and police. but trump and this cac are connected, the difference is, Bolsonaro has killed, raped and murdered for real
You start your podcast up yet?
 

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The the police and the gangs are interchangeable genius. im not exaggerating, they deal drugs, they do contract hits, they rape they murder, BOPE aint any different neither



We all realize that so what do you just let corruption reign. I'm asking for solutions not excuses
 

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You start by fixing the institutions and making them more trustworthy. Trying to irradiate gangs without fixing the the real problem, simply generates more gang members with less structure....

What are you talking about? You just wrote a generic statement without any clarity.

He's already stated he's looking towards wipe out corrupting at all levels but the white collars aren't in the street murdering citizens ...
 

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What are you talking about? You just wrote a generic statement without any clarity.

He's already stated he's looking towards wipe out corrupting at all levels but the white collars aren't in the street murdering citizens ...
No they're just giving the dudes out there murdering people the guns and the money and the complete lack of societal structure that allows them to do so.

You can't just murder gangs in the Favelas and expect to solve literally anything. All you do is make it worse, you have to solve the root issue, which is that Brazil has never recovered from the Dictatorship and that the military still runs the show. That wanton governmental corruption needs to be weeded out by people with a vested interest in weeding it out. Not the man who appointed the most corrupt, crony filled cabinet he could have possibly done. All his campaign promises were lies to concentrate more power and expand his own wealth and influence. He has no desire to help his country he just wants to kill as many people as he can to line his and his friends pockets. The reason the gangs are going to war with the dude is because he's trying to muscle them out so he can control the territory not because he's doing anything to improve the standard of living so that the narcos have no reason to exist.

This "countries in turmoil need a strongman" argument has never held true, ever. All the strongman does is concentrate power and even if they do manage to root out some corruption they just replace it with their own. What Brazil needs isn't a strongman and a return to the 80's where you could just shoot criminals, immigrants, indigenous Brazilians and gay people dead on the street because they exist. They need structure and a legitimate government that's representative of the people, not the special interests and the military.
 

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On wiping out the “Indians”

“Pena que a cavalaria brasileira não tenha sido tão eficiente quanto a americana, que exterminou os índios”

“It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry hasn’t been as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated the Indians.” Correio Braziliense newspaper, April 12, 1998
 

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On wiping out the “Indians”

“Pena que a cavalaria brasileira não tenha sido tão eficiente quanto a americana, que exterminou os índios”

“It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry hasn’t been as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated the Indians.” Correio Braziliense newspaper, April 12, 1998
Like three days ago he literally signed off on the preliminary processes to wipe the human rights and protections of over a million indigenous peoples. He'll be sending army death squads in there to start killing people soon. Why? Because there's money to be made for himself and the companies that line his pockets to do so.
 

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Like three days ago he literally signed off on the preliminary processes to wipe the human rights and protections of over a million indigenous peoples. He'll be sending army death squads in there to start killing people soon. Why? Because there's money to be made for himself and the companies that line his pockets to do so.

Clear as day, Bro.
 

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No they're just giving the dudes out there murdering people the guns and the money and the complete lack of societal structure that allows them to do so.

You can't just murder gangs in the Favelas and expect to solve literally anything. All you do is make it worse, you have to solve the root issue, which is that Brazil has never recovered from the Dictatorship and that the military still runs the show. That wanton governmental corruption needs to be weeded out by people with a vested interest in weeding it out. Not the man who appointed the most corrupt, crony filled cabinet he could have possibly done. All his campaign promises were lies to concentrate more power and expand his own wealth and influence. He has no desire to help his country he just wants to kill as many people as he can to line his and his friends pockets. The reason the gangs are going to war with the dude is because he's trying to muscle them out so he can control the territory not because he's doing anything to improve the standard of living so that the narcos have no reason to exist.

This "countries in turmoil need a strongman" argument has never held true, ever. All the strongman does is concentrate power and even if they do manage to root out some corruption they just replace it with their own. What Brazil needs isn't a strongman and a return to the 80's where you could just shoot criminals, immigrants, indigenous Brazilians and gay people dead on the street because they exist. They need structure and a legitimate government that's representative of the people, not the special interests and the military.


Actually murdering gangs would solve a lot of the problems but again you ignore the fact that they are going after white collars as well , because it doesn't fit your rant.

Just like they are doing in Phillipines you may not like the path but you can't argue with results .

White collars aren't the ones creating gang structure that terrorizes their own people in the flavelas . There is social economic reasons of course but this mentality of blaming rich people for the deplorable actions of gangs is a cop out..

I have no problem with Brazil getting touch in crime , you see Phillipines crime rate down by 20-30% .(except murder rates ). Then you look at places like Singapore where they are tough on pretty much every crime . You have to go that route and it's all the above strategy....youre naive to think adding more wealth or education or whatever your liberal mind thinks these people need will stop the gang violence . Last time I checked cartels aren't white collars

Again you got in yoursoapbox appealed to emotional but there was no substance . What is the solution in Brazil ...just give me an example?

Even in Italy they had to go to war with the mafia to uproot it , same in the US....show me an example where blood wasn't spilled to stop the maniacal violence
 
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On wiping out the “Indians”

“Pena que a cavalaria brasileira não tenha sido tão eficiente quanto a americana, que exterminou os índios”

“It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry hasn’t been as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated the Indians.” Correio Braziliense newspaper, April 12, 1998

Yeah this is indefensible and hopefully this type of stuff isn't something he can accomplish in modern world ; however, I have no problem pushing certain assimilation laws. Then again I also believe in America native Americans shouldn't be getting reparations any longer and / or should be looking to assimilate with the rest of the culture. Especially since blacks haven't received one red cent
 
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