BREAKING: Deal to end government shutdown in reach. Democrats caving? Only asking for a PROMISE of a vote for ACA Tax credits.

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Yea…. We need people to definitely start voting for new people.

We also need people to stop being apathetic and stop “not voting” or thinking they making some type point burning votes on 3rd options (splitting the vote)
I’d add people applying pressure to politicians in non election years is even more pivitol. Waiting two months before an election we’ll continue to step on shyt
 

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At least your dumb ass is standing on business:wow:


The rest of these coli liberal loyalist have been on here non stop talking about "If they die,they die". And how their entire master plan was how Dems should sit back and let Americans suffer since thats what America voted for. Eventually Republicans would be hated and everyone would love the Democrats again.


Fast forward,at the very first sign of trouble and its "The Dems had no choice but to fold like a cheap suit. Its whats best for the people:mjcry:"


Either your bleeding hearts have activated again. Or your just schilling your asses off and trying to deflect about the Dems folding#Cope. Weird yall suddenly care about the people youve been saying Dems should allow to suffer for months now.


And i know alot of poor people,and none of them have even asked to borrow money or get a meal. So this idea they couldnt hold out longer if they wanted to is questionable:respect:
Started my day with a compliment from a rapist. I might take the day off, go back to sleep and try again:scust:
 

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I disagree. I think people connect republicans to rising health care cost alone and everybody is looking at them like they are wasting our taxes, and things are unaffordable.

The republicans are polling horrible and now they got to vote on the Epstein files and they got to vote on a democratic health bill that they can’t add riders too in order to hide that they want it to expire.

There is a chance they don’t shoot themselves in the foot and pass subsidies and if they don’t them voting against healthcare will be on their record.
You are putting too much faith into the average voter "caring". Their level of care is proportioned to how much it affects them directly. That's the smart part about the BBB is that most of the real cuts that are diabolical happen after the midterms. Opening the government back up puts people back on auto pilot and status quo. So they'll go back to arguing about 50/50, reality shows, celebrity news. Then that's banking on these D's even forming a cohesive message around the issue and they have shown that they suck at that since Obama left office
 

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I disagree. I think people connect republicans to rising health care cost alone and everybody is looking at them like they are wasting our taxes, and things are unaffordable.

The republicans are polling horrible and now they got to vote on the Epstein files and they got to vote on a democratic health bill that they can’t add riders too in order to hide that they want it to expire.

There is a chance they don’t shoot themselves in the foot and pass subsidies and if they don’t them voting against healthcare will be on their record.
By now people should realize it doesn't matter. Republicans have done way worse than not vote for health care since trumps been in office.. nothing is gonna happen. They wouldn't even show up to try to fix the situation. Oooo now they gotta vote on the files man bye....... If trump is in the files abusing a child they will not do anything. People wake up this government is f**ked.
 

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WEAKKKKKKK AF :heh:

Americans voted for this. Let Trump and his po azz low income "middle America" base stomach growl for a little then run campaign ads that remind them TRUMP REFUSED THEN BLOCKED SNAP PAYMENTS which is a factual thing.


Your gonna cave in for SNAP but what good is that when MAGA already passed legislation to gut the program AND now will pass legislation to increase Healthcare premiums double fold?
Well, it's like I stated in my post, if the Dems can regain some power through the midterms and/or the upcoming presidential election then they can offer new affordable healthcare stipulations, credits, etc, sure that means things for some will unfortunately be high for the next few months but that's better than letting millions of Americans starve, indefinitely, expensive healthcare doesn't mean no healthcare.

You can't eat healthcare, in no scenario does that triumph the need for food. If Trump wasn't playing games, using delayed SNAP benefits and starving people for political gain, I believe the Dems would've held on longer but seeing what's transpired within the past week with SNAP, clearly these Dems voting on this new deal must've felt enough was enough and decided that something had to give even if it comes at a price.

Y'know what they say, having a “conscience do cost”.

Trump and Republicans made it clear they're not budging on the ACA credits, and have no problems letting people starve for months if necessary, so the Democrats realized what needed to be done to put an end to Trump's suffering of Americans in need of critical food assistance.

Sometimes one has to make sacrifices to ensure others don't fall through the cracks. Yes, it'll cost you for the time being, some will be upset, but the bigger picture is that you're saving people from going hungry. Now, in regard to SNAP, many of those cuts can be cleaned up as well. Just like during his first term, in regard to SNAP, Trump made cuts to the program, but Biden came in and cleared it up. So these SNAP cuts, while in effect now, are not permanent, and a Democrat president can work around them and clean them up.
 

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Treacherous. Those who caved should be dealt with like the traitors they are.
By the time their elections come up, if we even have fair elections again, it will be "forgotten".

Democrats think that having Fetterman is better than having a Republican. They are always crying about people to the left of them about purity tests.

If folks on your side let the other team run the ball, even help block you from tackling them, should they even be wearing your jersey?

Folks missing meals now or no healthcare later?

They keep talking about his they only need ~6 more seats in the Senate? Apparently they need 16 more seats.

And this is happening after a great win during the election cycle, unless of course Mamdani got them spooked.

So it's not like Democrats can't win, it's that they don't want certain people to win, certain people to take over.
 
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Is Schumer, Jeffries,etc useless in the grand scheme and need to be voted out? Of course. Do co workers that I have that are at food pantries trying to feed there kids need to be made whole? Of course. I think both things can be true. To my friends that are pissed off today I told them this. Next year, actually start today, find who local/state wise is running next year and call up their office. Find out which way they think on this specifically AND how they plan to make you and your community better. Also spread the word why someone ain’t shyt or why they will be good going forward. People got to get involved and actually fukking vote. MF not voting is part of the reason why we here.
 
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Just remember that in a few months people will be running around this board calling people c00ns, cacs, MAGA, sellouts, to defend these democrats.


:mjlol:


Jeffries’s and Schumer acting like they didn’t organize this vote. These people were hand selected to vote for this bill.


The Democratic Party is a joke and deserves all the disrespect. Trump really out here bullying these dudes :heh:


Not even a full year in office and he’s destroyed almost everything democrats believe in. Wow
 

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The problem with democrats is that you can’t tell people you fighting for something and to stick with it, and then when they actually buy in you immediately fold.

People don’t trust they will actually do anything because they will always cave.

Republicans say they gonna do something and they do it. For the most part they get their marching orders and stuck together.

I will still vote D because I have no choice, but I have no confidence in anything they say from here on out.
 
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