Breaking News- Ethiopian Government Fully Accepts International Agreement W/ Eritrea

[thatrapsfan]

Lol, Egypt and Saudi Arabia been sabotaging Ethiopia for years. A lot of the early support for Eritrean independence came directly from Egypt.

Egypt has always been hell bent on having full control of the Nike Valley because of paranoia of losing too much Nile water. Moreover, the hydroelectric potential of Ethiopia is more than enough to make it the new major player in the region once it’s been fully harnessed. On the surface it looks ok but this has been a battle of hegemony going back to the Pharaohs and their fear of Ethiopia blocking the Nike further downstream.

Them nikkaz finna be our son tho.

I think there are a lot of major foreign policy shifts with new PM, that’ll make it more difficult to reconcile older positions. As I said earlier, as the Oromo party seems to genuinely be the more powerful in EPRDF now the priorities of the state are transforming. TPLF definitely is far more attached and committed to the Eritrean conflict than the former, and it appears the PM wants to wash his hands of it. That also means changing relations with other neighbours and states. The old absolute truths about how Ethiopia views things may no longer hold very soon.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Didn't these clowns and the Arab league claim Ethiopia was "hurting Arabs"

Lol they better not have, we got thousands of years of dirt on them too.

Y’all are putting the cart before the horse, Ethiopia and Eritrea are not uniting, nor does the naval announcement indicate that.

They far more likely envision Djibouti and Berbera as the docking posts for the future navy.

Yeah, those are far more likely outcomes imo. In my heart of hearts I want Eritrea and Ethiopia united again but that’s far too unrealistic. Even the most reasonable people on both sides couldn’t conceive that. The only way that happens is if it’s part of a much larger East African state and you that damn sure won’t happen.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I think there are a lot of major foreign policy shifts with new PM, that’ll make it more difficult to reconcile older positions. As I said earlier, as the Oromo party seems to genuinely be the more powerful in EPRDF now the priorities of the state are transforming. TPLF definitely is far more attached and committed to the Eritrean conflict than the former, and it appears the PM wants to wash his hands of it. That also means changing relations with other neighbours and states. The old absolute truths about how Ethiopia views things may no longer hold very soon.

You may very well be right. It’s an exciting time if nothing else.

I’m just curious as to what Isaias does now? As its been stated, the threat of Ethiopia invading has always been a major propaganda tool for the state and now that appears to being going away. Also, Eritrean refugees (hate calling them that) receive benefits in Ethiopia so on the ground level the vitriol that the propaganda machine hopes to foster doesn’t stand up to what’s going on on the ground both at home and in the diaspora.

I’m fascinated to see how Eritreans as a whole respond to this turn of events. On the Ethiopian side, a new and progressive approach like this in governance could break the hold of political influence often enjoyed by the Amhara and Tigray for all these years. It’d be nice to see Ethiopia grow up and mature politically and get beyond the old days of tribal rivalry.

 

[Blackonbothsides]

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[thatrapsfan]

A last-ditch gamble for Ethiopia’s ‘miracle on the Nile’

Good analysis.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

way overdue. both countries are on the up in my opinion. don't get it twisted, afwerki is loved by the majority of eritreans.

HELL fukkING NO

 

[JDH]

HELL fukkING NO

Lol definitely not true, at least not among the diaspora eritreans. Maybe back in 2002 it was true but not now. A lot of the pro-afewerki eritreans are alot more vocal of their opinion on him though

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

HELL fukkING NO

Lol definitely not true, at least not among the diaspora eritreans. Maybe back in 2002 it was true but not now. A lot of the pro-afewerki eritreans are alot more vocal of their opinion on him though

Maybe that’s what it is. Cuz the Pro-Afewerki crowd is very much vocal. You can hear the propaganda in a lot of what they say. I know a few of the intellectuals in the diaspora and they all have pretty much become anti-Afewerki.

 

[newworldafro]

Wow, that’s huge. The ball is in Asmara’s court now. At this point it feels like we might end up with the two nations/one people approach that some of the Eritrean elders been preaching for in the diaspora.

We could never be one nation again, Selassie and everyone afterwards completely fukked that up but it’s no reason why our governments should still be at odds.

Explain that..

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Explain that..

I heard that Selassie did great things in terms of modernization but treated some of the tribes like shyt.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Explain that..

He dissolved the Federation with Eritrea and got rid of their local government which began the ticking time bomb that led to the war for independence. Had he converted to a constitutional monarchy through the federation he would’ve never been overthrown in the first place. Eritrea was totally mismanaged and handled badly once the separatist movement began. Even then things could’ve been resolved but once Selassie was overthrown the Derg made things worse. Selassie didn’t operate in a vacuum, the aristocracy made it difficult for him to modernize politically but it doesn’t excuse the failure because he also should’ve stepped aside and let his son rule. He didn’t learn from the first Coup, that’s not thinking for the nation at that point.

On the one hand, he did everything he could to modernize the country and Eritrea got a lot of attention in particular because of the leftover infrastructure from the Italian era. But technical advancement didn’t match political or social advancement in the end. Selassie as a Pan African symbol was a success but as the leader of Ethiopia he made critical mistakes that split it apart and left problems still permeating today.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

A last-ditch gamble for Ethiopia’s ‘miracle on the Nile’

Good analysis.

Lol I bet, but I ain’t bout to pay for it tho.

 

[pete clemenza]

About time

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

Maybe that’s what it is. Cuz the Pro-Afewerki crowd is very much vocal. You can hear the propaganda in a lot of what they say. I know a few of the intellectuals in the diaspora and they all have pretty much become anti-Afewerki.

What's good Quik?

shyt I'm all for this, Ethiopia post-war times has always been the most progressive side so I was expecting a move like this. I'm fully supportive of one people two nations and I hope we can get our first democratically elected president in instead of the alcoholic in charge.

 

[thatrapsfan]

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HELL fukkING NO

Lol definitely not true, at least not among the diaspora eritreans. Maybe back in 2002 it was true but not now. A lot of the pro-afewerki eritreans are alot more vocal of their opinion on him though

I take it y’all are both Eritrean. That’s been my read as well, I think our breh @dtownreppin214 been hearing some pro-Gov types preach too often in Dallas

If you want to know how wild of a propaganda machine the government is running literally post anything slightly negative about Eritrea on social media and see how quickly it’ll attract responses from government supporters. There’s just no way a small country that’s produced that much migration out of it can be the heaven on earth the pro government types describe, especially with total control consolidated in one person.