Amerikkka was about to destroy Cuba in the missile crisis but Russia doesn't want NATO troops on their border how dare they
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Amerikkka was about to destroy Cuba in the missile crisis but Russia doesn't want NATO troops on their border how dare they
Toussaint
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How the fukk has America done twice worse.
Russia ethnically cleansed the Asian inhabitants of Siberia just like the US did North America. The Russians had legal slavery until 1861. The reason Ukrainians largely identify as a separate ethnic group from Russians is the majority of Ukrainians were slaves and peasants. The Russians committed multiple genocides of Poles, Uzbeks, Germans, Koreans, Mongolians, Tartars, Ukrainians Circassian’, Chechens etcThe Stalinist policies arguably killed more people than the holocaust
In 2011, after assessing twenty years of historical research in Eastern European archives, American historian Timothy D. Snyder stated that Stalin deliberately killed about 6 million, which rise to 9 million if foreseeable deaths arising from policies are taken into account.
Excess mortality in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia
Bro what the hell are you talking about. You live in 90% Cac Canada
. Now you a revolutionary
Toussaint
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Yeah, they wanted to join NATO AFTER their country was invaded and occupied. Shocking.Ah. So in your own post you admit that Ukraine’s elites wanted to join NATO before the war, thereby contradicting the lie you said earlier in this thread.
Bravo!
Do you admit the process for joining NATO is such that they were never going to be admitted.
Your comrades are getting packed out by the thousands in the cold because Zelensky had a wish
Toussaint
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NATO troops are already on the border.
Y’all gotta start learning your geography if you are gonna talk geopolitics
What's NATO's hold up of adding Ukraine? didn't they just add Finland and Sweden? NATO is either stalling or waiting to see if Biden win in 2024, which is stupid because why wait when they can add Ukraine now and effectively end Russia's aggression... The fukk Putin gonna do? still yap about nuclear war? he already know NATO will body him and Russia. Putin is thin on manpower
Toussaint
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You’re a clown breh.The Russians were literally giving material support to Hitler and helped in invade Poland before he pulled the okie doke on them
Ribbentrop and Stalin at the signing of the Pact
Further information: German–Soviet Commercial Agreement (1939) and Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
Germany and the Soviet Union signed a commercial agreement, dated August 19, providing for the trade of certain German military and civilian equipment in exchange for Soviet raw materials.[95][96] The agreement provided for roughly 200 million in Soviet imports of raw materials (for which they would receive a seven-year line of credit), German exports of weapons, military technology and civilian machinery. "current" business, which entailed Soviet obligations to deliver 180 million Reichsmarks in raw materials and German commitment to provide the Soviets with 120 million Reichsmarks of German industrial goods.[96][97][98][99] German Foreign Ministry official Karl Schnurre noted at the time that "[t]he movement of goods envisaged by the agreement might therefore reach a total of more than 1 billion Reichsmarks for the next few years."[100] Schnurre also wrote "[a]part from the economic import of the treaty, its significance lies in the fact that the negotiations also served to renew political contacts with Russia and that the credit agreement was considered by both sides as the first decisive step in the reshaping of political relations."[100] Pravda published an article on August 21 declaring that the August 19 commercial agreement "may appear as a serious step in the cause of improving not only economic, but also political relations between the USSR and Germany."[101] Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov wrote in Pravda that day that the deal was "better than all earlier treaties" and "we have never managed to reach such a favorable economic agreement with Britain, France or any other country."[97]
Early in the morning of August 24, the Soviet Union and Germany signed the political and military deal that accompanied the trade agreement, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. The pact was an agreement of mutual non-aggression between the countries.[102] It contained secret protocols dividing the states of Northern and Eastern Europe into German and Soviet "spheres of influence."[102] At the time, Stalin considered the trade agreement to be more important than the non-aggression pact.[103]
At the signing, Ribbentrop and Stalin enjoyed warm conversations, exchanged toasts and further addressed the prior hostilities between the countries in the 1930s.[104]They characterized Britain as always attempting to disrupt Soviet-German relations, stated that the Anti-Comintern pact was not aimed at the Soviet Union, but actually aimed at Western democracies and "frightened principally the City of London [i.e., the British financiers] and the English shopkeepers."[105]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–1941)
Toussaint
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I just showed you the 70% of Ukrainians were against NATO before Russian invaded their country.Thanks for admitting that you lied!
You gonna answer the question of how Ukraine was going to get German approval to join NATO or continue to be a disingenuous fukk
Like I said, your boys getting packed out on a wish
Toussaint
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It’s the same hold up as before the war. You need 100% approval from everyone in NATO to join. Sweden and Finland haven’t joined yet because Turkey is making them give up Kurdish rebels they have in asylum and probably a lot of money and military resources changing hands.
I doubt Germany would ever approve Ukrainian NATO membership even after the war. An unofficial rule is you can’t be in open military conflict with another country at the time either.
If Russia breaks apart as a country after Putin dies you might see Ukraine in NATO but it’s a long time from now.
I'm sure if russia had a sizable non white population they would be treated with the utmost care and respect by the russian state and common people 
NATO troops are already on the border.
Y’all gotta start learning your geography if you are gonna talk geopolitics
All these dummies know is repeating the same Fisher Price shyt over and over
If you're non-american like from Africa, I don't hold it against you for rooting for the downfall of America and any enemy of your enemy is your friend.
However, here in America, our white supremacists are literally being funded and pushed with the help of Russia. This isn't fear mongering . It's the facts. These are individuals who long to finally carry out genocide of black folks. It's not in our interests for Russia's influence to increase. I would argue somewhat it's probably not in other diaspora's interest either . At the end of the day, everyone, not just Americans, are looking out for their self interest. This idea of saints vs devils in geopolitics and wars is misplaced because it's a bunch of people fighting each other who have blood on their hands one way or another. Power doesn't exist in a vacuum. If there is not a top dog at any given moment, there will always be someone looking to become the top dog. When you have almost 200 nations on their earth each acting in their own self interest, it's just statistics that at least one of those will have leaders who realize there is an opportunity there when power and resources are there for the taking. It's been this way since the beginning.
It's human nature. Sometimes I do wonder if a world government would be a possible solution to some problems. Because, this nation state system by its very nature pits nations against each other. Sometimes wonder if it would serve humanity better to get rid of it.
However, here in America, our white supremacists are literally being funded and pushed with the help of Russia. This isn't fear mongering . It's the facts. These are individuals who long to finally carry out genocide of black folks. It's not in our interests for Russia's influence to increase. I would argue somewhat it's probably not in other diaspora's interest either . At the end of the day, everyone, not just Americans, are looking out for their self interest. This idea of saints vs devils in geopolitics and wars is misplaced because it's a bunch of people fighting each other who have blood on their hands one way or another. Power doesn't exist in a vacuum. If there is not a top dog at any given moment, there will always be someone looking to become the top dog. When you have almost 200 nations on their earth each acting in their own self interest, it's just statistics that at least one of those will have leaders who realize there is an opportunity there when power and resources are there for the taking. It's been this way since the beginning.
It's human nature. Sometimes I do wonder if a world government would be a possible solution to some problems. Because, this nation state system by its very nature pits nations against each other. Sometimes wonder if it would serve humanity better to get rid of it.
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I understand but doesn't mean I agree completely with what you think the outcome will be though.Thanks for understanding!
We can discuss and debate that though.
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I can't disagree with all that but this seems selective. The cold war main attribute was both the west and communist align states, with the USSR leading the way usually, both using other countries as proxies to increase their influence.
Soviet involvement in regime change - Wikipedia
My argument to you is that, Russia and also China, are the biggest supporters of an ideology of authoritarianism than the west. Currently. They seemed to have dropped the worldly brotherhood outlook they had in the USSR era. Now they seem to embrace nationalism and far right fascism Not saying the west won't support existing authoritarian governments if it supports their current interest (ie Saudi Arabia) but I don't know breh, what concerns me is that the above countries are embracing authoritarianism on another level and are funding movements in other countries where it's leading to less liberalism, not more. Myanmar coup and the military oppression and genocide happening there is being backed by China. Far right forces not just here in the United States, but Canada and Britain where a few of you Brehs stay at are being backed by Russians. Russian leaders right now are being driven by Duginist beliefs that desire to build a new neo-fascist world order. That sounds Worse to me. It seems no longer is the egalitarian nature of communism being pushed by these countries anymore. Now it's a far right nationalism and belief that might makes right, and only might. In this case, the ONLY power that matters, is gun to the head and given you have both Russia and China in Africa, if they can get rid of competing force in the West, I'm skeptical of how these two countries where the population is arguably more racist towards blacks, especially Africans, will treat Africans.
No one can predict the future. I'm assuming you guys are banking on current cooperation continuing as is in a new world order. I'm skeptical because I see how these people are acting internally just towards their own citizens who look like their leaders. I can't imagine how they will act towards black skinned Africans if given free reign.
