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I use to want the citizenship question on there, I cannot believe how politically naive I was. Good thing this failed.
#BREAKING: Supreme Court rules against Trump adding citizenship question to 2020 US Census
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That's teh sort of thing that would drive moderates away from him. People are so conditioned to the census being every 10 years, and everyone knows that he's just doing this for political reasons. Delaying a massive national event with real consequences in order to drive your partisan and racist agenda would hurt him bad.
You can't be this naive. You have to be faking.
The issue is not asking who is a citizen. The issue is purposely depressing census turnout in a power grab.
You think they should ask whether you've ever committed a felony when they hand you your ballot? Ask if you've ever been a gang member when you show up for jury duty? You don't see how this shyt can be rigged?
Nah. Being racist has never hurt Trump at all, in fact it got him elected president.
Delaying the census will piss people off, but it'll be people (like us) that never supported him anyway. The people still currently supporting Trump will be completely fine with this, because shifting political power to rural/white voters is why they voted for him in the first place. There's no event that'll drive away so-called "moderate" Trump supporters.
Trump's support floor is only 35-40% of voters. He needs more than that to win. There really are moderates who voted for him in 2016, and he won't win without moderates voting for him in 2020.
There's no "one reason" that people voted for Trump. People are way too complex for that.
Not really...
538 has Trump's approval at 42%, which is around the same as it was when he got elected. This is after Charlottesville, Putin, North Korea, Mueller, Kavanaugh, etc. So I don't really see any indication that he's lost much support, nor that anything he does would put him in danger of doing so. He's already had dozens and dozens of scandals, one more won't make a difference.
As things are he probably loses the popular vote by a slightly bigger margin, but he's still the favorite to win electorally unless a significant number of people who stayed home in 2016 turn out next year, or we enter a recession before the election. But by all indications virtually everybody who voted for Trump in 2016 will vote for him again.
His current support level is not his floor, he's been down all the way to 36% in the poll averages. And among his lukewarm supporters there are people who aren't turned on by the identity stuff but like him because the economy is going well, or because they're happy he nominated anti-abortion justices, or because he passed a tax cut, or just because he's a reality star who "doesn't care what people think" (which can be a cover for racist views but can also just be a cover for a dumbass or people tired of SJWs). Those "non-partisan" voters don't give a shyt about North Korea, they don't even know anything about Kavanaugh except that to them it seemed like no one could prove anything and that's that, and they don't follow foreign policy and view it as a distraction. I mean, what has Trump done regarding North Korea that the average person who doesn't watch cable news 24/7 would even give a shyt about?
But the census is something that everyone has a part in. And delaying it in order to push his racial agenda makes Trump look like their worst stereotypes of a bad politician, drunk with power and out for his own personal agenda. There's not a single vote he could pick up by doing it, and he would definitely lose votes.
50% of the country won't vote for Trump. 35-40% will vote for him no matter what. There are another 10-15% who are malleable. If he doesn't get at least half of those, he's done outside of any election shenanigans.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the percentage of malleable voters. I think it's probably closer to 5%...
Probably 42-44% of voters will support Trump no matter what, and around 53% won't support him at all. I doubt anything with the census will change those numbers too much. Only thing I could see really changing them is a recession or war.
Here we go......why haven't the Dems impeached this thug?
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Rest In Power Kobe
88m3
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The New York Times
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President Trump and Attorney General William Barr began working to find a way to place a citizenship question on the 2020 census just after the Supreme Court blocked its inclusion last month, Barr said.
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Barr Says Legal Path to Census Citizenship Question Exists but Gives No Details
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President Trump and Attorney General William Barr began working to find a way to place a citizenship question on the 2020 census just after the Supreme Court blocked its inclusion last month, Barr said.
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Barr Says Legal Path to Census Citizenship Question Exists but Gives No Details
88m3
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Because Republicans won't remove him from office
Why wont voters hold the Republicans responsible?!
I think they secretly like it.
88m3
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I think they secretly like it.
fukk it man I think you're right!
Why don't the dem voters and people on the internet you know the constituents of the Republican fukks who aren't scum that are always railing against the Dems hold the Republicans responsible?!
Do those fukks like it too?!