BREAKING: The Chicago Bulls are trading two-time All-Defensive guard Alex Caruso to the Oklahoma City Thunder for guard Josh Giddey, sources tell ESPN

[GoldenGlove]

sounds like a less athletic cac Westbrook.

Parts of Giddey's game are comparable to other guys. Kidd's rebounding and rim pressure, he also was a mediocre shooter until later in his career... But he was faster and a great defender.

I was thinking about Rondo too, but idk man Giddey is just a player that doesn't really play like a lot of other guys

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They play nothing alike breh


I just looked at their shooting stats for comparison.

Giddey has only made 10 unassisted 3s this season
Luka has made 84...Luka has made more unassisted 3s than assisted this season

On step back 3s, Luka has attempted 194 of them to Giddey's 9

Their offensive games are not similar at all. Luka's bag and ball handling enables him to score by creating for himself at any spot on the floor. Giddey is not LIKE that

You're taking it far too literally.

They're both exceptionally skilled playmakers, who rely on angles and deceleration (due to limit athleticism), who have wing size but operate best as ball-handling guards. And last but not least, unironically, they're both white.

The nature in how they navigate the court is very similar, except Luka basically goes everything at a greater level.

All the scouting reports often referred to him as the Australian Luka before he got into the league.

If you don't think what I'm saying is adding up, take it from the man, himself, who said Luka is the player he bases his game around -

 

[GunRanger]

Since the all star break hes averaging 22 10 9 and shooting over 50% from 3

 

[GoldenGlove]

You're taking it far too literally.

They're both exceptionally skilled playmakers, who rely on angles and deceleration (due to limit athleticism), who have wing size but operate best as ball-handling guards. And last but not least, unironically, they're both white.

The nature in how they navigate the court is very similar, except Luka basically goes everything at a greater level.

All the scouting reports often referred to him as the Australian Luka before he got into the league.

If you don't think what I'm saying is adding up, take it from the man, himself, who said Luka is the player he bases his game around -

I'm not tho, I've watched every game he's played this year and I've never said, "we have diet Luka here in Chicago".

Nobody would be tripping over cashing him out if that were the case. Luka is one of the greatest offensive players EVER and is an unstoppable scoring option when he's on. Josh Giddey's inability to create off the bounce for himself kills the comp for me because it's such a HUGE part of Luka's game.

When you look at their USAGE rate it becomes even more clearer that they are not the same kind of players.

They're both big un-athletic Euros that are great passers. That's where it ends for me. Sorry.

Prime Harden and Luka are comparable players. Josh Giddey doesn't belong in that conversation.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Prime Harden and Luka are comparable players. Josh Giddey doesn't belong in that conversation.

The fact that you think I'm putting Giddey in the same conversation as those two, means you are definitely taking it too literally.

It's not that deep.

A diet version of something isn't in the same conversation with the real thing.

He even said himself he's modelled his game after Luka, so at this point, you're just being obtuse for the sake of.

 

[QuintessentialBM]

Giddey is kinda unique. He is a bigger, taller John Stockton.... he's a little more athletic and a more flashy (riskier) passer and is a good help defender.

He was not going to be in the long term plans for OKC because....

1)He is too ball dominant, SGA is the HNIC
2) OKC prioritized SGA, Chet & J‐Dub
3) He is a defensive liability vs elite SG's
4) He had too many TO's in 2024 playoffs
5) He demanded a trade.

 

[Damnshow]

Can we talk about him being a diet Luka now?

He's been ballin lately, but we are too fast with these Luka lite comparisons. The Bulls are at mediocre spot fighting for 9th/10th place which is like what....the spot to fight Cavs in 1st round if somehow they win two play-in games? If I take a wild guess I am guessing Bulls do not make the playoffs this year. They have an interesting core of Giddey, White and Buzelis, let's see what the Bulls do next season. They may need to give their core a year or two to see what they develop into, sign more pieces and surround them with couple veterans and maybe in couple seasons they may become what Detroit Pistons are right now.

Luka carried a mediocre cast to 2022 western conference finals. So I'm not sure how much of a diet Luka you imagine Giddey right now. He has a great court vision, his offense needs to become more consistent though. Let's just give Chicago Bulls more time and see what they build. I am glad they traded away Derozan and Lavine finally so the young players can actually develop more.

 

[GoldenGlove]

He's been ballin lately, but we are too fast with these Luka lite comparisons. The Bulls are at mediocre spot fighting for 10th place which is like what....the spot to fight Cavs in 1st round if somehow they win two play-in games? If I take a wild guess I am guessing Bulls do not make the playoffs this year. They have an interesting core of Giddey, White and Buzelis, let's see what the Bulls do next season. They may need to give their core a year or two to see what they develop into, sign more pieces and surround them with couple veterans and maybe in couple seasons they may become what Detroit Pistons are right now.

Luka carried a mediocre cast to 2022 western conference finals. So I'm not sure how much of a diet Luka you imagine Giddey right now. He has a great court vision, his offense needs to become more consistent though. Let's just give Chicago Bulls more time and see what they build. I am glad they traded away Derozan and Lavine finally so the young players can actually develop more.

Bulls have most of their team on the books next season which looks like a run it back year along with another 1st Round pick.

I think they need to add high level talent at 4 and 5. Athleticism and rim protection should be the priority. Matas should be their 3 of the future. I'm hoping they've used this season as an MVP pilot to knowing what pieces are needed to put around Giddey and Matas and we start seeing moves in the direction.

If they can land Asa Newell in this draft that would be awesome. But that's only happening if they miss the playoffs based on the mocks I've seen.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Giddey is kinda unique. He is a bigger, taller John Stockton.... he's a little more athletic and a more flashy (riskier) passer and is a good help defender.

He was not going to be in the long term plans for OKC because....

1)He is too ball dominant, SGA is the HNIC
2) OKC prioritized SGA, Chet & J‐Dub
3) He is a defensive liability vs elite SG's
4) He had too many TO's in 2024 playoffs
5) He demanded a trade.

Hmmm

 

[Damnshow]

Bulls have most of their team on the books next season which looks like a run it back year along with another 1st Round pick.

I think they need to add high level talent at 4 and 5. Athleticism and rim protection should be the priority. Matas should be their 3 of the future. I'm hoping they've used this season as an MVP pilot to knowing what pieces are needed to put around Giddey and Matas and we start seeing moves in the direction.

If they can land Asa Newell in this draft that would be awesome. But that's only happening if they miss the playoffs based on the mocks I've seen.

Yeah which is why I don't understand why they are trying so hard to stay in that play-in position, or is that the east is so wack someone has to take those 9th and 10th places. A top 10 pick for the Bulls would be great.

 

[MikelArteta]

Yeah which is why I don't understand why they are trying so hard to stay in that play-in position, or is that the east is so wack someone has to take those 10th and 11th places. A top 10 pick for the Bulls would be great.

They could lose every game no team below them is going to catch em breh

 

[GoldenGlove]

Yeah which is why I don't understand why they are trying so hard to stay in that play-in position, or is that the east is so wack someone has to take those 10th and 11th places. A top 10 pick for the Bulls would be great.

The teams under them are actively tanking and want nothing to do with the Play-In.

Once Chicago got their pick back (without protections on it) from the Spurs it was like an anchor being lifted off of the front office to feel free to do this shyt we're seeing now.

The main incentive to trading Zach was so that they could play to win these games post ASB without fear of losing that pick...

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Yeah which is why I don't understand why they are trying so hard to stay in that play-in position, or is that the east is so wack someone has to take those 10th and 11th places. A top 10 pick for the Bulls would be great.

The bulls kept losing just to not go down in the standings. The other teams in the East are that bad. Might as well try to win

 

[GoldenGlove]

Philadelphia being ass is why they got stuck at 10 and in the Play-In

If they weren't injured and terrible this season, I think Chicago clearly is out of the Play-In.

There was a stretch where Chicago was at 10 after being like 2-8 or 3-7 in their last 10 games and Philly didn't make up any ground on them in the standings. This was before they shut down Embiid. Then they played against each other and Chicago crushed them and Philly took that as a clear sign to punt on their season.

That's how we ended up where we are now

 

[the cool]

Giddey is kinda unique. He is a bigger, taller John Stockton.... he's a little more athletic and a more flashy (riskier) passer and is a good help defender.

He was not going to be in the long term plans for OKC because....

1)He is too ball dominant, SGA is the HNIC
2) OKC prioritized SGA, Chet & J‐Dub
3) He is a defensive liability vs elite SG's
4) He had too many TO's in 2024 playoffs
5) He demanded a trade.

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