BREAKING: Tim Kaine to be Democratic VP nominee

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Because she can still lose if turnout is low. Romney won 60%+ of white people and still lost. Those white men are not going to vote for her. However, if young people or progressives stay home, then the Senate win is in jeopardy. 71% of a group that only showed up at a 20% clip in 2014 just voted against you. You might want to motivate them. Trump is so toxic that a surge among that group will may damn near put the house in jeopardy. You probably can't pick Warren but someone with progressive bonafide would say something. Kaine is a safe pick, but the Republicans stacked the deck in Congress and your party has been losing every election since 2010 more or less. This is where you prove you meant that progressive shyt in the primary.

Instead you select a guy who had state college tuition go up 30% during his term in VA. A guy who is basically proliferation, a guy who strongly supported a bill that meant a minimum of 5 years for being caught with a gun on you regardless of whether you actually inflicted any harm. A guy supports a no fly zone in Syria. The guy who is heavy for TPP and bank deregulation. In other words, he's the type of Democrat that the left is tired of and that the right won't vote for anyway.

Do you guys know anything about real grassroots politics outside of CNN? I'm dead serious.
A Hillary win doesn't mean shyt if people don't come out and vote down ticket. Right now it's looking like a lower turnout because the ticket is uninspiring and people aren't just going to come out to vote against Trump. The Dems banking on that are gonna be in for a shell shock if they don't change up soon. Obama shifted congress because of the grassroots, they disbanded that (under Tim Kaine) and have been losing every since.
 

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Because she can still lose if turnout is low. Romney won 60%+ of white people and still lost. Those white men are not going to vote for her. However, if young people or progressives stay home, then the Senate win is in jeopardy. 71% of a group that only showed up at a 20% clip in 2014 just voted against you. You might want to motivate them. Trump is so toxic that a surge among that group will may damn near put the house in jeopardy. You probably can't pick Warren but someone with progressive bonafide would say something. Kaine is a safe pick, but the Republicans stacked the deck in Congress and your party has been losing every election since 2010 more or less. This is where you prove you meant that progressive shyt in the primary.

Instead you select a guy who had state college tuition go up 30% during his term in VA. A guy who is basically proliferation, a guy who strongly supported a bill that meant a minimum of 5 years for being caught with a gun on you regardless of whether you actually inflicted any harm. A guy supports a no fly zone in Syria. The guy who is heavy for TPP and bank deregulation. In other words, he's the type of Democrat that the left is tired of and that the right won't vote for anyway.

Do you guys know anything about real grassroots politics outside of CNN? I'm dead serious.
Who was your preference? Other than Warren, I can't see any progressive VP pick having an affect on Hillary and the way she intends to govern. I mean we all know this woman is a moderate at the end of the day. She stuck with someone she's comfortable with and probably won Virginia with this pick. She's obviously banking on progressives swallowing their pride and voting for her as Trump continues to make daily gaffes.

Are you watching his speech? The man is very likeable, this is what she needed as her rep has been ripped to shreds.
 

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Because she can still lose if turnout is low. Romney won 60%+ of white people and still lost. Those white men are not going to vote for her. However, if young people or progressives stay home, then the Senate win is in jeopardy. 71% of a group that only showed up at a 20% clip in 2014 just voted against you. You might want to motivate them. Trump is so toxic that a surge among that group will may damn near put the house in jeopardy. You probably can't pick Warren but someone with progressive bonafide would say something. Kaine is a safe pick, but the Republicans stacked the deck in Congress and your party has been losing every election since 2010 more or less. This is where you prove you meant that progressive shyt in the primary.

Instead you select a guy who had state college tuition go up 30% during his term in VA. A guy who is basically pro life, a guy who strongly supported a bill that meant a minimum of 5 years for being caught with a gun on you regardless of whether you actually inflicted any harm. A guy supports a no fly zone in Syria. The guy who is heavy for TPP and bank deregulation. In other words, he's the type of Democrat that the left is tired of and that the right won't vote for anyway.

Do you guys know anything about real grassroots politics outside of CNN? I'm dead serious.

This is why I was hoping for Tom Perez. Perez would have been more satisfying to progressives. I'm a Maryland guy so I'm a bit biased

Also, to be fair to Kaine, he is pro-life due to his religious beliefs but on his voting record, he's 100% pro-choice (only 3 years in the Senate though). When he was governor, it shouldn't surprising the abortion policies he put in since VA was a solid red state for a long time.

Kaine defending Virginia’s anti-union “right-to-work” law is very GOP-esque though.

Hillary was going to win VA without him.

The issue with picking Warren or Brown is that unfortunately the Dems don't control the Governorships IN MA and OH :snoop: and they'd lose a Senate seat in the short term.
 
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This is why I was hoping for Tom Perez. Perez would have been more satisfying to progressives. I'm a Maryland guy so I'm a bit biased

Also, to be fair to Kaine, he is pro-life due to his religious beliefs but on his voting record, he's 100% pro-choice (only 3 years in the Senate though). When he was governor, it shouldn't surprising the abortion policies he put in since VA was a solid red state for a long time.

Kaine defending Virginia’s anti-union “right-to-work” law is very GOP-esque though.

Hillary was going to win VA without him.

The issue with picking Warren or Brown is that unfortunately the Dems don't control the Governorships IN MA and OH :snoop: and they'd lose a Senate seat in the short term.

:patrice: Cant say that. She only had a 2 point lead over Trump and that was in the margin of error. Remember she's tied with Trump in New Hampshire. She had to lock down Virgina.
 

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Kaine speaking spanish on stage, its so fukkin over :dead:

Trump gonna be shytting on mexicans and Kaine gonna be dancing at random girls quinceaneras :dead:
:whoa: can't be showing TOO much love to those hispanics. we know how cacs get jealous when they're not getting all the attention. *cough* all lives matter *cough*
 

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This is why I was hoping for Tom Perez. Perez would have been more satisfying to progressives. I'm a Maryland guy so I'm a bit biased

Also, to be fair to Kaine, he is pro-life due to his religious beliefs but on his voting record, he's 100% pro-choice (only 3 years in the Senate though). When he was governor, it shouldn't surprising the abortion policies he put in since VA was a solid red state for a long time.

Kaine defending Virginia’s anti-union “right-to-work” law is very GOP-esque though.

Hillary was going to win VA without him.

The issue with picking Warren or Brown is that unfortunately the Dems don't control the Governorships IN MA and OH :snoop: and they'd lose a Senate seat in the short term.
Somewhat un. related, but voting records are overstated because any Democrat and any Republican will have similar voting records as their party because all the fighting probably happened before the bill got to the floor
 
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