BREAKING: Trump Adds $100,000 (Annual?) Fee For Each H-1B Visa Applicant. India, China Top Numbers.

[CBalla]

il

I hear you breh.

But let’s be real fam...no company is suddenly gonna fill up its ranks with Americans when, by definition, that talent pool is more expensive and harder to retain. If you were a CEO, would you rather deal with John, who can quit on short notice without so much as a text message, or bring in an H-1B hire who’s motivated to work harder for less, tied to the company for visa reasons, and far less likely to make noise? From a super cold business perspective, the H-1B is simply the safer bet.

And I fully agree with you on Black American talent, ability ain't never been the issue. The real problem is structural: if companies keep chasing the cheaper outsourcing or H-1B route, then those opportunities never even open up. That’s not a talent gap...that’s a business incentive gap.

So the real question isn’t even about whether Americans can do the jobs, it’s whether the system gives companies a reason to actually choose them. That's the elephant in the room so to speak.

But I'ma wait and watch how this rolls out. It ain't about the policy, it's about how companies will respond to it.

i mean if they are going by the math alone, that data analyst role above is going to be as follows

American Salary = 65k
H1B Salary = 165k


they’ll deal with John


they cant underpay Pajeet anymore

 

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anybody that comes into this thread and tries to argue with me, but does not state that the current policy and its design does not help out one single foundational black American

Is either a foreigner
An agent
Deranged
Or can’t do simple math

i'm all five and i agree with you

 

[Claudex]

il

i mean if they are going by the math alone, that data analyst role above is going to be as follows

American Salary = 65k
H1B Salary = 165k


they’ll deal with John


they cant underpay Pajeet anymore

You ain't lying at all.

But aside from the math part of it, there's the retention side of it. Not all but some H1B's stay at a company for 4 years no issue while never getting promotions working the job of 2-3 people because they're stuck with one sponsor who needs to vouch for them basically every year or whatever.
And on your example, Pajeet would be getting like 55k at most, so 155k. Ain't no way Pajeet salary gonna be the same as John's after the 100k expense!

But whatever, to say that americans ain't gonna benefit from this is a lie. Especially short term. Housing already going down since so many people stopped studying in the US ever since the fiasco with the universities.

 

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Provided by chatgpt on this policy:

Strategic View​

• Net “winner”: Canada (direct substitution effect).
• Medium-term winners: India & China (retain talent, boost local ecosystems).
• Secondary winners: EU, Australia, Gulf (attract redirection flows).
• Big loser: The U.S., which risks hollowing out its talent pipeline and weakening its innovation edge.

On paper, there are millions of Americans with degrees who struggle to find stable employment. But the nuance lies in skills, specialization, and mobility.

Many U.S. graduates don’t have the exact technical expertise (e.g., advanced chip design, AI, niche coding languages, biostatistics) or the willingness to relocate to where demand is highest. Employers often say the “talent shortage” isn’t about the number of people, but about the fit between skills and jobs. Foreign H-1B workers fill these high-demand, specialized gaps quickly, whereas retraining the domestic workforce takes years and requires systemic investment in education and vocational training.

So while the policy may create opportunities for some unemployed Americans, in practice it risks leaving critical positions unfilled, slowing projects, and raising costs. The paradox is: yes, there is U.S. talent, but it’s not always the right talent at the right place and time.

which niche programming language takes years to learn?

 

[JT-Money]

Not sure why most people commenting just don't read the Proclamation or the newly updated H-1B FAQ on the USCIS website. It's pretty self-explanatory to see how it favors domestic employees over immigrants on visas. How can you comment on something so convincingly that you haven't obviously read? Nor ever worked a single day in the tech field.

H-1B FAQ | USCIS

On Friday, Sept. 19, 2025, President Donald J. Trump signed a Proclamation, "Restriction on Entry of Certain Nonimmigrant Workers," that took an important, initial, and incremental step to reform the H-1B visa program to curb abuses and protect American workers.

www.uscis.gov

This Proclamation:

Requires a $100,000 payment to accompany any new H-1B visa petitions submitted after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on Sept. 21, 2025. This includes the 2026 lottery, and any other H-1B petitions submitted after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on Sept. 21, 2025.

Further steps that will be taken to reform the H-1B program, as contemplated in the Proclamation, include:

A rulemaking by the Department of Labor to revise and raise the prevailing wage levels in order to upskill the H-1B program and ensure that it is used to hire only the best of the best temporary foreign workers.

A rulemaking by the Department of Homeland Security to prioritize high-skilled, high-paid aliens in the H-1B lottery over those at lower wage levels.
Additional reforms are also under consideration and will be announced in the coming months.

 

[CBalla]

You ain't lying at all.

But aside from the math part of it, there's the retention side of it. Not all but some H1B's stay at a company for 4 years no issue while never getting promotions working the job of 2-3 people because they're stuck with one sponsor who needs to vouch for them basically every year or whatever.
And on your example, Pajeet would be getting like 55k at most, so 155k. Ain't no way Pajeet salary gonna be the same as John's after the 100k expense!

But whatever, to say that americans ain't gonna benefit from this is a lie. Especially short term. Housing already going down since so many people stopped studying in the US ever since the fiasco with the universities.

its just math to me, pay Pam from TSU 50k or pay Pajeet 50k + the 100k the gov would slap on


I dont see most businessmen paying Pajeet at that point

 

[Claudex]

which niche programming language takes years to learn?

Languages like COBOL, Fortran, VHDL/Verilog, or even R in certain fields aren’t hard just 'cause of syntax...them shyts take years because you also need to have absorbed decades of quirks, libraries, and industry expertise to actually use them effectively.

 

[DonB90]

its just math to me, pay Pam from TSU 50k or pay Pajeet 50k + the 100k the gov would slap on


I dont see most businessmen paying Pajeet at that point

Old way
American College grad:65k
Pajeet:45k

New way
American College grad:65k
Pajeet:145k


I kind of prefer the new way Don't give a fukk bout the well being of some foreign Asians supressing wages of American citizens

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'll say this again

When you have 4 engineering freshman in college, only 1 out of those 4 will get an engineering job.

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Something is deeply wrong with the STEM pipeline.
And once you understand that problem, you'll that there's something wrong with the pipeline between schooling and career in most fields.

Yeah its hard to have this convo cause nikkas will be like nobody wants to study STEM when we have a whole gen of young people who grew up witb “learn tk code” and now they coming into field and cant find shyt, and much of the H1B is NOT for the prestigious research specialist (ie only a hand ful of people on earth can do this), and i believe there js a different visa for those types

 

[Claudex]

its just math to me, pay Pam from TSU 50k or pay Pajeet 50k + the 100k the gov would slap on


I dont see most businessmen paying Pajeet at that point

Big corporations are gonna have to bend the knee to Trump for that exemption, but mid-sized and smaller companies gonna go with Pam from TSU for sure. Pam will have to get 70-80k though, if they don't want her to just jump to the next opportunity.

 

[MikelArteta]

Big corporations are gonna have to bend the knee to Trump for that exemption, but mid-sized and smaller companies gonna go with Pam from TSU for sure. Pam will have to get 70-80k though, if they don't want her to just jump to the next opportunity.

As they should. Why should american jobs be given to foreigners when you have qualified folks?

I wish that ish was in canada, we have a unemployment rate near 10%, no jobs for the youth or newly graduated yet companies still bringing in foreign workers.

Its a slap in the face.

 

[WIA20XX]

I wonder if this is get back from Mark zuckerberg's gaff on the mic?

 

[Claudex]

As they should. Why should american jobs be given to foreigners when you have qualified folks?

I wish that ish was in canada, we have a unemployment rate near 10%, no jobs for the youth or newly graduated yet companies still bringing in foreign workers.

Its a slap in the face.

No doubt breh...but this policy, in order to be effective, will require way more work than this...

The $100K H-1B fee is a stick, but it’s only half of an approach. It raises the cost of foreign hires, but by itself it don't magically create opportunities for Americans...that shyt just leaves companies with higher costs and an incentive to lobby for loopholes.

For the EO to land properly, the government gotta provide the carrots too: Subsidize training pipelines for Americans, offer tax breaks for firms that retrain or hire locally, enforce wage protections (for the current foreigners) so visas can’t be used as a discount trick...

nikka... you know what, align the executive rewards (bonuses and all that other shyt) with domestic job creation rather than just stock prices.

Without those parallel moves, all this shyt is just a headline grab. shyt looks tough, but companies will either eat the cost, offshore more work, or push for exemptions.

 

[MikelArteta]

No doubt breh...but this policy, in order to be effective, will require way more work than this...

Go after offshore as well. These companies don't want their own employees to work form home be in the office collaborate but sandip and gurwinder can be all the way in india working?

 

[Claudex]

Go after offshore as well. These companies don't want their own employees to work form home be in the office collaborate but sandip and gurwinder can be all the way in india working?

That's that "bottom line" culture breh breh.

One of my favorite movies to watch is Margin Call, but I know for a fact that whole movie is just filthy human greed.

But it looks normal, even inspiring to many!