BREAKING: Trump now officially moves to end DACA, wants congress to replace the policy March 2018

[WheatThins]

Your side's the one bringing up single instances, not me.

"One instance of a mexican"

NO stupid.

The point was that many kids are completely are furious about this, my brother got like 79 likes when he first outed his racist ASB.

Meanwhile, it's your side that keeps bringing up single instances of a mexican immigrant shooting a black citizen as your reasoning for why we should be deporting thousands of children.

tbh, after them trump election polls everyone is looking at hispanics, white women and asians in a funny light

there really needs to be more widespread efforts from "liberal" minority groups to show that they actually care about the true issues concerning other minorities (the n word is not one of them) bc right now they only come out for their own large scale

Having open boarders is not "liberalism" you twat, that's what the country was founded on and how so many people of different backgrounds ended up here in the first place. Fighting illegal immigration is not bad, but treating people like they are shyt because they are illegal immigrants IS WRONG. Its not if and or buts about it........not to mention the real winners of this is not black people.............

Private Prisons Profit From Immigration Crackdown, Federal ...

Its just another hustle people.......but all keep drinking that kool aid...........

lol, but if people stopped immigrating illegally there would be nothing to crack down on in the first place

 

[NoChillJones]

the melting pot doesnt stop just because people have to follow the rules, thats what you are missing.

no one is saying "stop immigration for ever" so dont be dramatic.

What I'm missing? My response what in regards to your response about Japan not letting in immigrants. I stated its a melting pot. fukk are you talking about?

 

[NoChillJones]

tbh, after them trump election polls everyone is looking at hispanics, white women and asians in a funny light

there really needs to be more widespread efforts from "liberal" minority groups to show that they actually care about the true issues concerning other minorities (the n word is not one of them) bc right now they only come out for their own large scale


lol, but if people stopped immigrating illegally there would be nothing to crack down on in the first place

you dumber then the average person aren't you breh? The article pertained the extensive hold time and in humane conditions of these prisons and how they exist strictly to obtain the money they get to hold the prisoners..........your response is like saying well if black stopped selling crack there would not be a need to crack down on dealers with racist mandatory sentencing.

Everything you fools say sounds like some reversed redneck racist logic........but your not racist............your just passionate about black struggle.......

 

[GetInTheTruck]

I'm not arguing for borders...and also recognize that the term "rule of law" is loaded phrase for basically Fascism.

Not saying you lack the ability to make the argument, but there is nuance here that I'm not sure you can see if your aren't brown or black. No one is saying throw the law out the window...

But DACA was LAW and they just threw it out the window...why? Ask yourself why? and why now?

How is it that Obama who was tough as fukk on deportations and immigration allowed DACA to go through? Because morale, public image, and most of all MONEY are just as important as "law".

Ending DACA erodes a multi-billion dollar tax base and boots in our military.



Symbolic change has to adjust the social paradigm before systemic change can happen.

A nation with a weak sense of national identity will always have a weak military, no matter how many boots are on hand.

By eroding border integrity, the erosion of national identity inevitably follows.

Rule of law is something necessary for any functioning society. Are lines on the road fascism? How about red lights and stop signs?

 

[WheatThins]

What I'm missing? My response what in regards to your response about Japan not letting in immigrants. I stated its a melting pot. fukk are you talking about?

troll game is strong bc japan is definitely not a "melting pot"

no asian country is a "melting pot" tbh, no hispanic country either unless they a) caribbean b) have a history of slavery

you dumber then the average person aren't you breh? The article pertained the extensive hold time and in humane conditions of these prisons and how they exist strictly to obtain the money they get to hold the prisoners..........your response is like saying well if black stopped selling crack there would not be a need to crack down on dealers with racist mandatory sentencing.

Everything you fools say sounds like some reversed redneck racist logic........but your not racist............your just passionate about black struggle.......

how is that change the fact that they are there bc THEY CHOSE to break the law in the first place. there is nothing racist about what the law says and doesn't say.

adults can make their own decisions breh breh.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No, we're talking about children.

You're trying to punish some people by deporting other people's children

It's doesn't make any sense.
Have fun agreeing with Trump on a policy decision.

actually, heres the age of most DACA "kids"

They're 15-32 years old.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you are black most of America don't consider you American either...

Just saying, "American" in the current context DON'T include your black ass. You really think MAGA means you...

I'm not relinquishing my citizenship to bring more undocumented people in

 

[NoChillJones]

troll game is strong bc japan is definitely not a "melting pot"

no asian country is a "melting pot" tbh, no hispanic country either unless they a) caribbean b) have a history of slavery

That's kind of the point I was making you dumb fukk..............but don't just stop at Asisa and Hispanic include a majority of African countries too.....or do they not feed into your bullshyt point of view?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

the ones that voted for him are white hispanics not the brown ones.

Pretty much.... This site doesn't like logic/facts tho.... fukks up an entertaining narrative...

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Having open boarders is not "liberalism" you twat, that's what the country was founded on and how so many people of different backgrounds ended up here in the first place. Fighting illegal immigration is not bad, but treating people like they are shyt because they are illegal immigrants IS WRONG. Its not if and or buts about it........not to mention the real winners of this is not black people.............

Private Prisons Profit From Immigration Crackdown, Federal ...

Its just another hustle people.......but all keep drinking that kool aid...........

The country never had open borders. Immigration was always tightly regulated.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

This is fukked up. nikkas advocating for this ain't shyt.

Most black people aren't "advocating" for it, but why should illegal immigrants be exempt from laws

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

The article you cited, even the red highlighted sections, does not address the impact of immigration on black unemployment. :cambybp:

Immigration really doesn't have an impact on black employment

 

[Black Magisterialness]

What I'm missing? My response what in regards to your response about Japan not letting in immigrants. I stated its a melting pot. fukk are you talking about?

I get your point but Open Borders is a logistical nightmare, especially considering we are fighting like three wars right now. I'm liberal, but there's no way I think that's a good idea. However, I support DACA because I think its inhumane to punish people who had no say in coming here in the first place.

A nation with a weak sense of national identity will always have a weak military, no matter how many boots are on hand.

By eroding border integrity, the erosion of national identity inevitably follows.

Rule of law is something necessary for any functioning society. Are lines on the road fascism? How about red lights and stop signs?

America in no way shape or form has the weakest or even weakening military.

And through paths to citizenship you create national identity. Remember, these are people who WANT to be American. Almost nothing could foster stronger ties of patriotism than saying "You want to be American. Good. Here's how you earn it. We won't punish you for your parents crimes."

Did you read? I said its a loaded term. Of course Laws are needed. But its just like saying "black on black crime" the very notion has baggage that comes with it. I'm just saying you can be more eloquent.

I'm not relinquishing my citizenship to bring more undocumented people in

Who the fukk said that? I'm just saying in all the "America first" talk people been spewing that the "America" they are talking about don't mean nikkas/latinos/gays/trans/muslim people...

 

[WheatThins]

That's kind of the point I was making you dumb fukk..............but don't just stop at Asisa and Hispanic include a majority of African countries too.....or do they not feed into your bullshyt point of view?

well, if clearly no other country needs to be a "melting pot" and youre fine with that why tf does the US need to be

And through paths to citizenship you create national identity. Remember, these are people who WANT to be American. Almost nothing could foster stronger ties of patriotism than saying "You want to be American. Good. Here's how you earn it. We won't punish you for your parents crimes."

issa lot of mf's who wanna be american tho. america would always be on the losing side and forced to provide more while other countries do not have the same openness while shipping their people out to us who then send all their money back home


on another note, lets also not act like its not wayyyyy harder for blacks to immigrate here or to get DACA status

 

[NoChillJones]

The country never had open borders. Immigration was always tightly regulated.

fukk are you talking about?

European Emigration to the U.S. 1851 - 1860

Although the Irish potato blight receded in 1850, the effects of the famine continued to spur Irish emigration into the 20th century. Still facing poverty and disease, the Irish set out for America where they reunited with relatives who had fled at the height of the famine.

Background
Between 1845 and 1850, a devastating fungus destroyed Ireland's potato crop. During these years, starvation and related diseases claimed as many as a million lives, while perhaps twice that number of Irish immigrated — 500,000 of them to the United States, where they accounted for more than half of all immigrants in the 1840s. Between 1820 and 1975, 4.7 million Irish settled in America. In 2002, more than 34 million Americans considered themselves to be of Irish ancestry, making Irish Americans the country's second-largest ethnic group.

When did the boarders close

In the 50's when Mexican immigration increased to 100s of thousands per year.......