🇷🇺🇺🇦🇺🇸 BREAKING: Trump says that taking back Crimea and joining NATO are OFF THE TABLE for Ukraine | #MAGA 🦅

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I've never seen anything like Trump's love for Putin. I can't tell if it's just Twitter propaganda that he listens to or if he is actually compromised.

He literally rolls out a red carpet for war criminal Putin, then tries to pressure Zelensky into taking the worst deals possible. Today he's been spewing Russian propaganda again.

You should have told your white relatives to vote for Kamala.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Melos was a city state and a tribe of people as you stated Melians were what they were called, not dorians or spartans.
Yes they were the same ethnicity as the Spartans.

The spartans did kick the athenians out, after the athenians killed every man on the island and sold the women and children to slavary.

The point of the melian dialogue isn't that, even though it should be as every man died, its the phrase I gave you.

The strong do what they can, the weak do what they must.

You might want to actually think about the principle in that status. And no that wasn't a success for the melians

I have Mister Terrific on ignore so whenever I read replies to him, it sounds like he’s saying the most schizophrenic shyt

 

[David_TheMan]

You noticing a pattern here. You’re always wrong.


But this is a good first step. Now not knowing what casualties mean is pretty bad, but Rome wasn’t built in a day and you have the ability to overcome your faulty encoding and become a actualized human being if you want it bad enough




I didn’t come to 1 million. Independent sources and government agencies came to that number

.





You can actual hear here how the figures are arrived at.



Slavs have been fighting each other for thousands of years. Germans have been fighting German peoples for thousands of years. Latin peoples have been fighting Latin peoples for thousands of years, what the fukk does that mean

Most Slavs hate Russia. Latvians, Lithuanians, Macedonians, Bulgarians, Slovenians, Croatians, Polish, Czechs etc.

What the fukk are you talking about?




Orc babble. Reread this sentence and make it coherent,



Is this English?







Source?


source?



No they haven’t




Not really

No they haven’t




No they haven’t



No they haven’t



No it isn’t


You said that 3 years ago. See you in another 3

lol bbc estimates of russian casualties is a joke.
200k deaths, 400k wounded from russia , 600k total how do you get the other 400k?

Russians claim less than 1 million for Ukraine in casualties.

Its known that ukrainians are getting it worse than the Russians, this is the credibility gap.

Palestinian genocide accusation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ICC and ICJ refuse to declare genocide on Israel due to US pressure.
UN has numerous reports saying the Israelis are committing genocide, yet refuse to formally call them perpatraitors of genocide, again due to US pressure.
That kills any attempt at calling these bodies unbiased.

Sources here you go

https://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/40154/1/16_1-29.pdf

also books such as

The Russian language and its dialects​

By William Richard Morfill

I disagree that most slavs hate russians.
Violence in Eastern europ;e has been formented as a policy by the west.

 

[David_TheMan]

Trump supporters like yourself need to drop your address and let nikkas come to your homes and eat.

Take everything you own since you support that kind of weak shyt.

They are making a defense right now and have been doing so for years

I'm not a trump supporter. I didn't vote for him.

You can make a defense all you want, you have to ask yourself is this worth it.
Are we capable of making a defense against the superior opponent.
They were in the same situation as the Melians.
They argued that attacking them would be foolish becuase it would cause the Sparatans to fight for them and defeat them.
To that the Athenians said if the sparatans are going to fight for you they would already be hear, but we are here now, what are you going to do? You gonna resist or are you going to lay down. We will kill you all if you resist.
The Melians tried to appeal to principles.
Then the Athenians shut it down and said its going this way you laying down or are we putting you down.

You have to be practicle. Do you think it would have been better for the Ukrainians to have accepted the terms in 2022 and refused to join NATO or host NATO/US weaponry in their country and de-nazify, or do you think the current situation is preferable?
We aren't talking principles we are talking miltiary reality?

 

[David_TheMan]

Was Athens a tribe, was Sparta a tribe you called Melos a tribe.


They were ethnically Dorian and called Melians




And when the Spartans won they returned the Melians to Melos as stated in the histories.




I know what the dialogue is used for by fascists. The phrase is used by fascists to justify conquest.


In actuality in history Athens attacking a neutral city turned every other neutral city against Athens and basically let it be known that just being neutral did not protect you and Athens ended being defeated and subjugated for their hubris by turning everyone against them.

In relation to Russia. This is the lesson you should learn orc.

Yeah athens were a tribe, sparta a tribe. corinthians a tribe, theabans a tribe.

You don;t know much about the dialogue at all as it seems it went entirely over your head.
It also isnt used by fascists, its thought in every US military leadership course.
Its about reality and the decisions commanders have to make about ideals vs reality.

So what, what does turning everyone against Athens have to do with the lives of every dead Melian male? You know the people the Melian dialogue is actually centered on.

You think its preferable for every Ukrainian soldiers to die in hopes that they will be avenged later on by the US, Poland, and France?

The funny part is using your example, the biggest offender of your principle is the US with its unsanctioned attacks globally since 9./11

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I'm not a trump supporter. I didn't vote for him.

You can make a defense all you want, you have to ask yourself is this worth it.
Are we capable of making a defense against the superior opponent.
They were in the same situation as the Melians.
They argued that attacking them would be foolish becuase it would cause the Sparatans to fight for them and defeat them.
To that the Athenians said if the sparatans are going to fight for you they would already be hear, but we are here now, what are you going to do? You gonna resist or are you going to lay down. We will kill you all if you resist.
The Melians tried to appeal to principles.
Then the Athenians shut it down and said its going this way you laying down or are we putting you down.

You have to be practicle. Do you think it would have been better for the Ukrainians to have accepted the terms in 2022 and refused to join NATO or host NATO/US weaponry in their country and de-nazify, or do you think the current situation is preferable?
We aren't talking principles we are talking miltiary reality?

Didn’t read

Drop the address

 

[David_TheMan]

Didn’t read

Drop the address

You are dumb as fukk if you think I'm putting my address on an internet forum.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

You are dumb as fukk if you think I'm putting my address on an internet forum.

Didn’t read

Drop the address

 

[Mister Terrific]

lol bbc estimates of russian casualties is a joke.

There are multiple studies reporting the same.

The Evening: One Million Russian Casualties, U.S. to Have Slower Growth, Truckin’, and More

This edition of the Evening covers One Million Russian Casualties, U.S. to Have Slower Growth, Truckin’, and More.

www.csis.org

Russian Troop Losses Hit 1 Million Amid Ukraine War: British Intelligence

Russia has likely lost more than a million troops since its full-scale war in Ukraine began in 2022, UK Defence Intelligence has claimed.

thedefensepost.com

Russia's war losses hit 1 million, says UK Defence Intelligence

www.pravda.com.ua

Face it you orcs are taking a whooping

200k deaths, 400k wounded from russia , 600k total how do you get the other 400k?

Read the source. You can even text to talk if you are dyslexic. Technology is amazing.

Palestinian genocide accusation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ICC and ICJ refuse to declare genocide on Israel due to US pressure.

On 26 January 2024, the ICJ issued a preliminary ruling finding that the claims in South Africa's filing were "plausible" and issued an order to Israel requiring them to take all measures within their power to prevent acts of genocide and to allow basic humanitarian services into Gaza

Palestinian genocide accusation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

UN has numerous reports saying the Israelis are committing genocide,

What reports?

Sources here you go

https://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/40154/1/16_1-29.pdf

also books such as

The very first paragraph states the Russians viewed Ukrainians as a different people but loyal to the tsar.


Please quote what exactly it is you are trying to quote.


This is low IQ uneducated behavior. Have you ever written a paper before?

The Russian language and its dialects​

By William Richard Morfill

What does this mean? Source the passage

I disagree that most slavs hate russians.

Violence in Eastern europ;e has been formented as a policy by the west.

Couldn’t be the mass deportations, executions and political repression moron?

 

[Mister Terrific]

I have Mister Terrific on ignore so whenever I read replies to him, it sounds like he’s saying the most schizophrenic shyt

 

[Mister Terrific]

Yeah athens were a tribe, sparta a tribe. corinthians a tribe, theabans a tribe.

No, those were city states

“Tribes are typically smaller, kinship-based groups, often with minimal formal government, while city-states are independent urban centers with their own established political systems and control over surrounding territories”


Is Singapore a tribe

You don;t know much about the dialogue at all as it seems it went entirely over your head.
It also isnt used by fascists, its thought in every US military leadership course.

I read it in college and finished a book last year on the Peloponnesian war.

You are using it in the fascist sense. Ala a concrete maxim that all states must abide by. Guys like Mearsheimer are always using to justify their anti-liberal views. Larger states always defeat smaller states when we know this isn’t the case and something the Melians themselves pointed out.

Political realism is and will always be flawed as even small states have allies. Vietnam, Cuba, Poland, Israel, Palestine, Iran etc.


Cowardice may run in your blood and lineage but it’s clear many people are made of stronger stuff

Its about reality and the decisions commanders have to make about ideals vs reality.

So what, what does turning everyone against Athens have to do with the lives of every dead Melian male? You know the people the Melian dialogue is actually centered on.

Very unlikely every male melian was killed as they continued to pay tribute to Athens after the sack and the survivors were returned after the war.

You think its preferable for every Ukrainian soldiers to die in hopes that they will be avenged later on by the US, Poland, and France?

Every Ukrainian won’t die as they have strong allies and a strong army.


Do you believe the Palestinians should submit to Israel?

 

[David_TheMan]

There are multiple studies reporting the same.

The Evening: One Million Russian Casualties, U.S. to Have Slower Growth, Truckin’, and More

This edition of the Evening covers One Million Russian Casualties, U.S. to Have Slower Growth, Truckin’, and More.

www.csis.org

Russian Troop Losses Hit 1 Million Amid Ukraine War: British Intelligence

Russia has likely lost more than a million troops since its full-scale war in Ukraine began in 2022, UK Defence Intelligence has claimed.

thedefensepost.com

Russia's war losses hit 1 million, says UK Defence Intelligence

www.pravda.com.ua

Face it you orcs are taking a whooping



Read the source. You can even text to talk if you are dyslexic. Technology is amazing.



On 26 January 2024, the ICJ issued a preliminary ruling finding that the claims in South Africa's filing were "plausible" and issued an order to Israel requiring them to take all measures within their power to prevent acts of genocide and to allow basic humanitarian services into Gaza

Palestinian genocide accusation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

What reports?



The very first paragraph states the Russians viewed Ukrainians as a different people but loyal to the tsar.


Please quote what exactly it is you are trying to quote.


This is low IQ uneducated behavior. Have you ever written a paper before?

What does this mean? Source the passage

1 of your sources states CSIS, the CSIS article doesn't detail how they actually obtained their estimate.
1 doesn't list the source
1 says UK Intelligence but doesn't list hte briefing or report.

Your sources largely agree with me in fatalities, its how they jump to 900k wounded that is questionable. That is an absurb estimate to say for russia and then turn around and say Ukraine has less wounded.
If you could provide a source that states how they actually got those numbers do so.

Onto Palestine,
ICJ hasn't made a formal ruling, neither has the ICC both have been openly threatened by the US

Imposing Sanctions on the International Criminal Court

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency

www.whitehouse.gov

Biden’s ICC hypocrisy undermines international law | Brookings

The ICC has called for the Israeli prime minister’s arrest, and the U.S. president is defending him, undermining international law.

www.brookings.edu

What UN reports these

Gaza genocide - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

United Nations​

In November 2023, a group of UN special rapporteurs wrote, "We remain convinced that the Palestinian people are at grave risk of genocide."[693][274] UN Special Rapporteur on the Human Rights to Safe Drinking Water and Sanitation Pedro Arrojo said that based on the Rome Statute, which counts "deprivation of access to food or medicine, among others" as a form of extermination, "even if there is no clear intention, the data show that the war is heading towards genocide".[694] A group of UN human rights experts said there was "evidence of increasing genocidal incitement" against Palestinians.[695][696]

In response to a January 2024 Times of Israel report that the Israeli government was in talks with the Congolese government to take Palestinian refugees from Gaza, the UN special rapporteur Balakrishnan Rajagopal said, "Forcible transfer of Gazan population is an act of genocide."[697][698]

In May 2024, UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women Reem Alsalem said that Palestinian women "are experiencing a full-blown genocide. They are being exterminated. There are few places in the world where we've seen something like this."[699][700] The UNHCR Special Rapporteur on adequate housing, Balakrishnan Rajagopal, said that Israel's destruction of Gaza "constitutes an act of genocide as well because the purpose of that destruction, exceeding 70 to 80 per cent across Gaza, is to make the place uninhabitable".[701]

In October 2024, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights released a report that accused the Israeli military of "the crime against humanity of extermination" for killing health workers and targeting health facilities.[702][703]

On 8 November 2024, the United Nations human rights office condemned many violations of international law that "could amount to war crimes, crimes against humanity and possibly even 'genocide'", calling on third states to prevent "atrocity crimes".[704][705] On 14 November 2024 the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices concluded that they are consistent with the characteristics of genocide.[706][707][708][40]

In February 2025, UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food Michael Fakhri said that Israel is committing a genocide and is working to "slow down its genocide through a starvation campaign", concluding that the United States and Germany were complicit in the ensuing famine.[709]

In May 2025, twenty UN independent experts and four working groups issued a statement accusing Israel of genocide and criticising the debate over the genocide terminology:

While States debate terminology—is it or is it not genocide?—Israel continues its relentless destruction of life in Gaza, through attacks by land, air and sea, displacing and massacring the surviving population with impunity... States must act swiftly to end the unfolding genocide, dismantle apartheid, and secure a future in which Palestinians and Israelis coexist in freedom and dignity.[710]

Also in May 2025, UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Tom Fletcher urged world leaders to act decisively to prevent genocide in Gaza.[711][712] On 4 June, Itamar Eichner reported that the United States vetoed a UN Security Council resolution against Israel.[713]

Back to Ukraine, people don't matter if they are a distinct people.
You wanted to know studies that cite Ukrainian as a russian dialect.
Those are just two that call ukrainian language, malorussian dialects, or little russian dialects.

What does the title of a book mean, its self explanatory
simply another source or text that argues that ukrainian language is a russian dialect.

 

[David_TheMan]

No, those were city states

“Tribes are typically smaller, kinship-based groups, often with minimal formal government, while city-states are independent urban centers with their own established political systems and control over surrounding territories”


Is Singapore a tribe



I read it in college and finished a book last year on the Peloponnesian war.

You are using it in the fascist sense. Ala a concrete maxim that all states must abide by. Guys like Mearsheimer are always using to justify their anti-liberal views. Larger states always defeat smaller states when we know this isn’t the case and something the Melians themselves pointed out.

Political realism is and will always be flawed as even small states have allies. Vietnam, Cuba, Poland, Israel, Palestine, Iran etc.


Cowardice may run in your blood and lineage but it’s clear many people are made of stronger stuff


Very unlikely every male melian was killed as they continued to pay tribute to Athens after the sack and the survivors were returned after the war.



Every Ukrainian won’t die as they have strong allies and a strong army.


Do you believe the Palestinians should submit to Israel?

Its a pedantic topic, doesn't have any relevance to the conversation.

Cool I don't care where you read it though, its irreelvant to me.

LOL what is idealism doing for the Palestinians who have been in open air prisons since 2014 , under violence occupation since 1946, and are getting massacred daily today? Nothing. Policial realism is what has kept them alive, and ultimately the same for Ukrainians.

They were misguided by Boris Johnson with lies that the US and all of Euroe would fight for them. That isn't happening and isn't going to happen. So yeah the Ukrainians have two choices fight and die to the last Ukrainian or surrender.

 

[Savvir]

This war has been worse than Vietnam for Russia...and they still not anywhere near winning....

I don't know why people are acting like Ukraine should surrender...

they are fighting for their own sovereignty...

 

[O.T.I.S.]

This war has been worse than Vietnam for Russia...and they still not anywhere near winning....

I don't know why people are acting like Ukraine should surrender...

they are fighting for their own sovereignty...

Only weak nikkas that needs to be instructed on what to do in life would support a whole country (with the ability to fight back) to just surrender.


And Trump supporters are usually weak ass people, just like Trump who has already surrendered all of his orifices to Putin publicly.

And if @David_TheMan is who I remember him as, he would surrender in a heart beat because he’s never worked hard for anything in his life. So of course it’s a good idea to people like him.

This nikka would surrender his property, family, sexuality, everything else if it meant he could live another day on his knees. Built for subjugation ass nikkas