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[David_TheMan]

Only weak nikkas that needs to be instructed on what to do in life would support a whole country (with the ability to fight back) to just surrender.


And Trump supporters are usually weak ass people, just like Trump who has already surrendered all of his orifices to Putin publicly.

And if @David_TheMan is who I remember him as, he would surrender in a heart beat because he’s never worked hard for anything in his life. So of course it’s a good idea to people like him.

This nikka would surrender his property, family, sexuality, everything else if it meant he could live another day on his knees. Built for subjugation ass nikkas

lol.
Its a calculation of military force of Ukraine vs Russia.
Did Ukraine have the ability to defend itself and honestly stop Russia, when they could not stop the Donbas rebellion and had to enter into two Minsk agreements to delay their outright route?

No, so they should have been receptive to the Russian threat. Time was their ally, this wasn't the time to make that move.

You are moving into name calling, don't really care.

If you can't win you should surrender and plan counter insurgency or in the case of ukraine delay nato progression and still carry on, maybe try to get us assets stationed in country before making certain actions.

There is nothing brave or strong about going into a war you know you don't have the cpacity to win.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

lol.
Its a calculation of military force of Ukraine vs Russia.
Did Ukraine have the ability to defend itself and honestly stop Russia, when they could not stop the Donbas rebellion and had to enter into two Minsk agreements to delay their outright route?

No, so they should have been receptive to the Russian threat. Time was their ally, this wasn't the time to make that move.

You are moving into name calling, don't really care.

If you can't win you should surrender and plan counter insurgency or in the case of ukraine delay nato progression and still carry on, maybe try to get us assets stationed in country before making certain actions.

There is nothing brave or strong about going into a war you know you don't have the cpacity to win.

Didn’t read

Drop the address

 

[Mister Terrific]

1 of your sources states CSIS, the CSIS article doesn't detail how they actually obtained their estimate.

First, Russian forces have advanced an average of only 50 meters per day in such areas as Kharkiv, slower than during the Somme offensive in World War I, [/b{where French and British forces advanced an average of 80 meters per day. Russian rates of advance have also been significantly slower than during such offensives as Galicia in 1914 (1,580 meters per day), Gorzia in 1916 (500 meters), Belleau Wood in 1918 (410 meters), Leningrad in 1943 (1,000 meters), and Kursk-Oboyan in 1943 (3,220 meters). Even Russia’s rate of advance in parts of Donetsk Oblast, averaging 135 meters per day, has been remarkably slow.






You’re moving slower than horses and walking Orc

1 doesn't list the source
1 says UK Intelligence but doesn't list hte briefing or report.

We literally have data that hundreds of thousands of Russians are requesting prosthetics. Do you think there is a limb remover disease percolating through Russian society

Your sources largely agree with me in fatalities, it’s how they jump to 900k wounded that is questionable.

Medaizona has estimated that 160,000 dead is a low estimate. It’s basically what they’ve counted by hand. They believe the actual death toll is upwards of 200-300,000


Casualties are typical 4-5 times higher in warfare.

That is an absurb estimate to say for russia and then turn around and say Ukraine has less wounded.

Ukraine is on the defensive. Defenders typically take less casualties than those on offensives especially when Ukrainians have saturated the battlefield with drones, trenches and the Russians have spent the last 3 years bashing themselves into Ukrainian defenses.

Like how can you watch combat footage of every day entire squads of Russians getting wiped and them moving like 30 kilometers past cities they took in 2023 and not believer they are getting fukked

Onto Palestine,
ICJ hasn't made a formal ruling, neither has the ICC both have been openly threatened by the US

ICJ has found the accusation warranted. You said they ruled it wasn’t a genocide. Where is that ruling.

Were you lying again?

There was no genocide in eastern Russia. You made it up because you have Nazi sensibilities


I actually have an article outlining the myths of Ukrainians targeting ethnic Russians

Ukraine myths used to justify Putin’s terror

Myths concocted by Putin shills, but widely believed even by well-intentioned peace activists, anti-imperialists and fence-sitters by Michael Karadjis Below are a series of well-known assertions th…

mkaradjis.com

Read through it and tell me what’s inaccurate

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Back to Ukraine, people don't matter if they are a distinct people.

Glad you conceded. Starting yo sound like mein fuhrer in 1936.

You wanted to know studies that cite Ukrainian as a russian dialect.

Yes I wanted studies. Your first article outlines that Ukrainians were considered a separate people in the 19th century.

That alone torpedoes your argument because even if Ukrainian is a dialect (it’s not) they are still a separate people. British and Americans aren’t the same. Austrians and Germans aren’t the same. Azerbaijanis and Iranians aren’t the same etc.

The next thing you did was post a headline from a book. I searched it in google and every link failed

Horrible job there. Low IQ stuff


Did you graduate college?

Those are just two that call ukrainian language, malorussian dialects, or little russian dialects.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/s/wz6lPPOByd

What does the title of a book mean, its self explanatory
simply another source or text that argues that ukrainian language is a russian dialect.

Posting a book title doesn’t mean anything without knowing what the book says you fukking moron

 

[Mister Terrific]

Its a pedantic topic, doesn't have any relevance to the conversation.

It does because tribe denotes primitiveness and lack of state institutions. Melos was a city state with its own sovereignty and distinct state institutions.

LOL what is idealism doing for the Palestinians who have been in open air prisons since 2014 , under violence occupation since 1946, and are getting massacred daily today? Nothing. Policial realism is what has kept them alive, and ultimately the same for Ukrainians.

So should Palestinians surrender to Israel and give up their land and people to the whims of the Israeli state?

So yeah the Ukrainians have two choices fight and die to the last Ukrainian or surrender.

All Ukrainians aren’t going to die. The Russians have barely moved a few thousand kilometers since the start of the war.

Stop being hysterical

 

[Mister Terrific]

@ReasonableMatic the civilized world will win

 

[David_TheMan]

First, Russian forces have advanced an average of only 50 meters per day in such areas as Kharkiv, slower than during the Somme offensive in World War I, [/b{where French and British forces advanced an average of 80 meters per day. Russian rates of advance have also been significantly slower than during such offensives as Galicia in 1914 (1,580 meters per day), Gorzia in 1916 (500 meters), Belleau Wood in 1918 (410 meters), Leningrad in 1943 (1,000 meters), and Kursk-Oboyan in 1943 (3,220 meters). Even Russia’s rate of advance in parts of Donetsk Oblast, averaging 135 meters per day, has been remarkably slow.






You’re moving slower than horses and walking Orc



We literally have data that hundreds of thousands of Russians are requesting prosthetics. Do you think there is a limb remover disease percolating through Russian society

Medaizona has estimated that 160,000 dead is a low estimate. It’s basically what they’ve counted by hand. They believe the actual death toll is upwards of 200-300,000


Casualties are typical 4-5 times higher in warfare.



Ukraine is on the defensive. Defenders typically take less casualties than those on offensives especially when Ukrainians have saturated the battlefield with drones, trenches and the Russians have spent the last 3 years bashing themselves into Ukrainian defenses.

Like how can you watch combat footage of every day entire squads of Russians getting wiped and them moving like 30 kilometers past cities they took in 2023 and not believer they are getting fukked



ICJ has found the accusation warranted. You said they ruled it wasn’t a genocide. Where is that ruling.

Were you lying again?

There was no genocide in eastern Russia. You made it up because you have Nazi sensibilities


I actually have an article outlining the myths of Ukrainians targeting ethnic Russians

Ukraine myths used to justify Putin’s terror

Myths concocted by Putin shills, but widely believed even by well-intentioned peace activists, anti-imperialists and fence-sitters by Michael Karadjis Below are a series of well-known assertions th…

mkaradjis.com

Read through it and tell me what’s inaccurate






Glad you conceded. Starting yo sound like mein fuhrer in 1936.


Yes I wanted studies. Your first article outlines that Ukrainians were considered a separate people in the 19th century.

That alone torpedoes your argument because even if Ukrainian is a dialect (it’s not) they are still a separate people. British and Americans aren’t the same. Austrians and Germans aren’t the same. Azerbaijanis and Iranians aren’t the same etc.

The next thing you did was post a headline from a book. I searched it in google and every link failed

Horrible job there. Low IQ stuff


Did you graduate college?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/s/wz6lPPOByd

Posting a book title doesn’t mean anything without knowing what the book says you fukking moron

Constand meat grinder for the Ukrainians and their counter attack was rebuffed and it keeps on collapsing.

I provided two documents pre russian invasions that document the genocidal behavior and targeted killing of civilians

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

2. Killing members of the group;
4. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
6. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
8. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
10. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Elements of the crime​

The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.


The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:

2. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
4. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
   • Killing members of the group
   • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
   • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
   • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
   • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

The actions that the government of Ukrain took against those in the Donbas of russian speech would classify as genocide.

You say We, you didn't write these reports so why are you saying that? Also provide the evidence to back up the claims

ICJ has made an advisory opinion known they haven't made a formal ruling yet. Why?

Should I go with a article that doesn't cite, or a study with citations of those involved, pictures, and etc documenting their claims? I think I will go with the study.

Ukraines being a distinct people or not was never part of the argument, its irrelevant aside to me.

You wanted studies I provided you two studies, one a journal, the other a book print of a previous study.
From linguists, stating that ukranian is a russian dialect.
You asked and you recieved.
That said I actually said that point is irrelevant as well, but you got what you requested.

The video is irrelevant, its one opinion I've provided counter opinions from linguists.

The book can be searched for in google scholar and you can read from there, you can type in malorussian dialect.

Glad I could help

 

[David_TheMan]

It does because tribe denotes primitiveness and lack of state institutions. Melos was a city state with its own sovereignty and distinct state institutions.



So should Palestinians surrender to Israel and give up their land and people to the whims of the Israeli state?




All Ukrainians aren’t going to die. The Russians have barely moved a few thousand kilometers since the start of the war.

Stop being hysterical

Tribe can mean that, or it can mean similar grouping or close knit group of people.
Either way it is a distinction without a difference.

The palestinians have surrendered to the israelis that is why they are literally in a open air prison since 2014. They can't even easily leave the country in Gaza. They have more freedom of movement in west bank but they are isolated there, most will eventually have to move to egypt or try to get to the west bank.

I didn't say all ukrainians are going to die. I said ukrainian soliders will all die if they keep going this route though.
If they want to fight to the last man in some misguided notion of honor, the result will be death.

 

[Gritsngravy]

So nobody going to keep it real about Ukraine and the situation at hand right now?

 

[Mister Terrific]

More random tiny villages. Kherson, Odesa, Kharkiv. When are you orcs capturing those

Liberation of Kherson - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Constand meat grinder for the Ukrainians and their counter attack was rebuffed and it keeps on collapsing.

Along the Donetsk front in the east, Russia launched a renewed offensive in October 2023 and captured the fortified city of Avdiivka in February 2024 after one of the war’s most intense battles.26 From that point through April 2025, Russian forces advanced approximately 60 kilometers westward toward the city of Pokrovsk—an average of just 135 meters per day.

Russia’s progress has been even slower near Kharkiv in the north. In November 2024, Russian forces launched an offensive around the city of Kupiansk, crossing the Oskil River and pushing westward in an effort to encircle the city. Over the next five months, they advanced roughly 8 kilometers at the furthest point, averaging just 50 meters per day. Elsewhere along the front line, Russia has made little to no progress pushing Ukrainian forces back since January 2024.



If Ukrainian defenses were collapsing why are the Russians moving so slow?

Please stop using words if you don’t know what they mean

I provided two documents pre russian invasions that document the genocidal behavior and targeted killing of civilians

No you didn’t. You provided a blog.

The actions that the government of Ukrain took against those in the Donbas of russian speech would classify as genocide.

Myth 2: The new government in 2014 banned the Russian language

This is quite an entrenched myth. Claiming that Ukraine changed its language law to downgrade Russian language in 2014, or more colourfully that it banned the language, is a common tankie claim used to justify the Russian quasi-annexation of parts of Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014. Of course, the Russian language was not banned in 2014 nor any time since, and further, there was zero change in the language law in 2014; that did not occur until 2019.


The new Language Law of 2019 did partially downgrade Russian, at the time against Zelensky’s opposition (Zelensky was just elected in 2019 with votes of Russian-speakers). This new law was pushed by the outgoing Poroshenko government as it more and more turned opportunistically to the nationalist right (ironically in 2014 Poroshenko, elected then with the votes of Russian-speakers and appealing to unity, claimed the parliament’s attempt to rescind the 2012 law was a grave mistake). This new language law made Ukrainian the only language of state throughout Ukraine. While the law is consistent with the Ukraine constitution which makes Ukrainian the official language, the constitution also has strong protections for Russian and other minority languages, especially in areas where they are the majority. The new law arguably downgrades the status of some of those protections. In schools, for example, Ukrainian is the language of instruction throughout the country; Russian can be learned in school as a language subject. However, in pre-school and primary school, Russian or other minority children can study in their own language, as the language of instruction, in addition to Ukrainian, but they cannot in high school. From an internationalist standpoint, this change is certainly regressive, but it is hardly unique for most of the world.

The new law makes Ukrainian the language of all official communication, ie in government operations, including local government. In itself, this is hardly unusual by world standards. Regarding the media, however, the law is highly regressive and certainly can be seen to violate the Ukrainian constitution. The law stipulates that any publications in Russian or other languages must be accompanied by a Ukrainian version, equivalent in content and volume, a draconian and impractical regulation. There are exceptions for Crimean Tatar language, and for languages of the EU, but not for Russian. While a former colony certainly has the right to promote the national language, doing so in a way that makes everyday life more difficult for speakers of other languages at a practical level violates their rights and divides the working classes.

However, it is the very essence of hypocrisy for Putinite shills to try to use this argument, even after 2019. What they miss is that this law only came in after years of its implementation in reverse in Russian-annexed Crimea. In 2015, Crimea made only Russian the language of school instruction, while allowing students to learn Ukrainian or Tatar as elective languages; in pre-school and primary school, instruction could also be in Ukrainian or Tatar in addition to Russian, but not in high school. It is almost as if the Ukrainian government plagiarised the Russian occupation government of Crimea’s law four years later! But the reality in Crimea is much worse than even this official downgrading; in reality, Ukrainian has been comprehensively eliminated from all Crimean schools and from all official society. One of the first acts of Russian-owned rulers in both Crimea and the Donbas was to replace multilingual signs with Russian only ones.

Likewise, in the Russia-owned Donbas statelets, almost immediately following their quasi-annexation in 2014, “the curricula have been altered to exclude the teaching of Ukrainian language and history, which makes it problematic to obtain State school diplomas,” according to a November 2014 report by the UN High Commission on Human Rights; in 2015, the curriculum was overhauled, with Ukrainian language lessons decreased from eight hours to two hours a week, while Russian language and literature lessons increased. Russia’s five-point grading system replaced Ukraine’s 12-point scheme. School leavers from then received Russian certificates with the Russian emblem, the two-headed eagle. In 2020, Russian was declared
the only state language.



Genocide




Again answer the question orc, Kherson, Odesa and Kharkiv contain millions of ethnic Russians. Why aren’t they being genocided

ICJ has made an advisory opinion known they haven't made a formal ruling yet. Why?

I don’t know but they haven’t ruled it ain’t a genocide and that’s what you said.

Should I go with a article that doesn't cite, or a study with citations of those involved, pictures, and etc documenting their claims? I think I will go with the study.

Yeah but you’re retarded and didn’t know what casualties meant

Ukraines being a distinct people or not was never part of the argument, its irrelevant aside to me.

Nonsense. You tried to sue that argument as justification for Russias war. You have Nazi esq ideologies.

You wanted studies I provided you two studies, one a journal, the other a book print of a previous study.

No you didn’t. One is a paper that argues Ukrainians aren’t Russian and the other was a book headline that can’t even be sourced

Did you graduate college? Have you ever written a research paper? Do you think this meets academic standards?

The video is irrelevant, its one opinion I've provided counter opinions from linguists.

Now you’re just being a big baby. The video goes into detail how Ukrainian differs from Russian. You should watch it, might take you from 90-95

The book can be searched for in google scholar and you can read from there, you can type in malorussian dialect.

Glad I could help

Post the excerpt from the book that confirms your argument

 

[Mister Terrific]

Tribe can mean that, or it can mean similar grouping or close knit group of people.
Either way it is a distinction without a difference.

A tribe is a social group primarily defined by kinship and shared culture, often with a decentralized leadership structure and limited territory. A city-state, on the other hand, is a political entity centered around a city that controls surrounding territory and has a more formal, centralized government.

The palestinians have surrendered to the israelis that is why they are literally in a open air prison since 2014. They can't even easily leave the country in Gaza. They have more freedom of movement in west bank but they are isolated there, most will eventually have to move to egypt or try to get to the west bank.

So the Gazans should surrender to Israel, Hamas should disarm and they should be subject to the whims of the Israeli government?

I want confirmation that this is what you believe.

I didn't say all ukrainians are going to die. I said ukrainian soliders will all die if they keep going this route though.
If they want to fight to the last man in some misguided notion of honor, the result will be death.

You said die to the last Ukrainian. Don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean. We’ve been over this.

Cowardice runs in your lineage don’t assume it runs in others

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

“The word "casualty" has been used since 1844 in civilian life. In civilian usage, a casualty is a person who is killed, wounded or incapacitated by some event; the term is usually used to describe multiple deaths and injuries due to violent incidents or disasters”

Casualty (person) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I said a million casualties and I have produced evidence.

Wait this isn’t a larp? You really think casualties means only dead


Gotdamn boy you are dumb.




Nope 1 million casualties

Russia’s Battlefield Woes in Ukraine

Russia has performed poorly on the battlefield in Ukraine and will likely hit the 1 million casualty mark in the summer of 2025. New CSIS data details Russia's slow rate of advance, heavy losses of equipment, and significant casualties.

www.csis.org

400,000 casualties

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/03/us/politics/russia-ukraine-troop-casualties.html

And 56% of Germans speak English? Are Germans English? Over 50% of Azerbaijanis speak Farsi. Are Azerbaijanis Iranian? Croats and Serbs share the same language. Are they the same people?




Please address this thread of Russians telling you they can’t understand Ukrainian so we can move on.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/s/MOmHH2eSoO

Again this stems from a mediocre IQ mixed with Narcissim. You need to come to terms with this.

Source?




I believe an international body whose mission is to study and combat genocide supersedes your orc babble.





You’re flailing. You don’t understand enough about warfare, linguistics, history and politics to have this discussion. Like I said it’s not too late. Even if reading is hard for you we have things like audible now. You can get a lot of information without having to be able to read and parse information

Your back and forth with dude has kept me laughing all day.


Also lmaoo @ the casualty is death part.. man thought he had one and said it with his whole chest

 

[David_TheMan]

A tribe is a social group primarily defined by kinship and shared culture, often with a decentralized leadership structure and limited territory. A city-state, on the other hand, is a political entity centered around a city that controls surrounding territory and has a more formal, centralized government.






So the Gazans should surrender to Israel, Hamas should disarm and they should be subject to the whims of the Israeli government?

I want confirmation that this is what you believe.


You said die to the last Ukrainian. Don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean. We’ve been over this.

Cowardice runs in your lineage don’t assume it runs in others

You are using a defintion, it is not the sole defintion.

Definition of TRIBE

a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language; a political division of the Roman people originally representing one of the three original tribes of ancient Rome; phyle… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

1

a : a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language
b : a political division of the Roman people originally representing one of the three original tribes of ancient Rome
c : phyle



2: a group of persons having a common character, occupation, or interest



3: a category of taxonomic classification ranking below a subfamily

also : a natural group irrespective of taxonomic rank
the cat tribe
the rose tribe

The Gazans seem to be requesting and seeking international support, while they die every day. I would think eventually they will drop arms and ask the UN for suppport.

Yes I said fight to the last ukraine, mining troop, not total population. If that confused you, you now have clarification.

 

[David_TheMan]

More random tiny villages. Kherson, Odesa, Kharkiv. When are you orcs capturing those

Liberation of Kherson - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Along the Donetsk front in the east, Russia launched a renewed offensive in October 2023 and captured the fortified city of Avdiivka in February 2024 after one of the war’s most intense battles.26 From that point through April 2025, Russian forces advanced approximately 60 kilometers westward toward the city of Pokrovsk—an average of just 135 meters per day.

Russia’s progress has been even slower near Kharkiv in the north. In November 2024, Russian forces launched an offensive around the city of Kupiansk, crossing the Oskil River and pushing westward in an effort to encircle the city. Over the next five months, they advanced roughly 8 kilometers at the furthest point, averaging just 50 meters per day. Elsewhere along the front line, Russia has made little to no progress pushing Ukrainian forces back since January 2024.



If Ukrainian defenses were collapsing why are the Russians moving so slow?

Please stop using words if you don’t know what they mean




No you didn’t. You provided a blog.



Myth 2: The new government in 2014 banned the Russian language

This is quite an entrenched myth. Claiming that Ukraine changed its language law to downgrade Russian language in 2014, or more colourfully that it banned the language, is a common tankie claim used to justify the Russian quasi-annexation of parts of Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014. Of course, the Russian language was not banned in 2014 nor any time since, and further, there was zero change in the language law in 2014; that did not occur until 2019.


The new Language Law of 2019 did partially downgrade Russian, at the time against Zelensky’s opposition (Zelensky was just elected in 2019 with votes of Russian-speakers). This new law was pushed by the outgoing Poroshenko government as it more and more turned opportunistically to the nationalist right (ironically in 2014 Poroshenko, elected then with the votes of Russian-speakers and appealing to unity, claimed the parliament’s attempt to rescind the 2012 law was a grave mistake). This new language law made Ukrainian the only language of state throughout Ukraine. While the law is consistent with the Ukraine constitution which makes Ukrainian the official language, the constitution also has strong protections for Russian and other minority languages, especially in areas where they are the majority. The new law arguably downgrades the status of some of those protections. In schools, for example, Ukrainian is the language of instruction throughout the country; Russian can be learned in school as a language subject. However, in pre-school and primary school, Russian or other minority children can study in their own language, as the language of instruction, in addition to Ukrainian, but they cannot in high school. From an internationalist standpoint, this change is certainly regressive, but it is hardly unique for most of the world.

The new law makes Ukrainian the language of all official communication, ie in government operations, including local government. In itself, this is hardly unusual by world standards. Regarding the media, however, the law is highly regressive and certainly can be seen to violate the Ukrainian constitution. The law stipulates that any publications in Russian or other languages must be accompanied by a Ukrainian version, equivalent in content and volume, a draconian and impractical regulation. There are exceptions for Crimean Tatar language, and for languages of the EU, but not for Russian. While a former colony certainly has the right to promote the national language, doing so in a way that makes everyday life more difficult for speakers of other languages at a practical level violates their rights and divides the working classes.

However, it is the very essence of hypocrisy for Putinite shills to try to use this argument, even after 2019. What they miss is that this law only came in after years of its implementation in reverse in Russian-annexed Crimea. In 2015, Crimea made only Russian the language of school instruction, while allowing students to learn Ukrainian or Tatar as elective languages; in pre-school and primary school, instruction could also be in Ukrainian or Tatar in addition to Russian, but not in high school. It is almost as if the Ukrainian government plagiarised the Russian occupation government of Crimea’s law four years later! But the reality in Crimea is much worse than even this official downgrading; in reality, Ukrainian has been comprehensively eliminated from all Crimean schools and from all official society. One of the first acts of Russian-owned rulers in both Crimea and the Donbas was to replace multilingual signs with Russian only ones.

Likewise, in the Russia-owned Donbas statelets, almost immediately following their quasi-annexation in 2014, “the curricula have been altered to exclude the teaching of Ukrainian language and history, which makes it problematic to obtain State school diplomas,” according to a November 2014 report by the UN High Commission on Human Rights; in 2015, the curriculum was overhauled, with Ukrainian language lessons decreased from eight hours to two hours a week, while Russian language and literature lessons increased. Russia’s five-point grading system replaced Ukraine’s 12-point scheme. School leavers from then received Russian certificates with the Russian emblem, the two-headed eagle. In 2020, Russian was declared
the only state language.



Genocide




Again answer the question orc, Kherson, Odesa and Kharkiv contain millions of ethnic Russians. Why aren’t they being genocided



I don’t know but they haven’t ruled it ain’t a genocide and that’s what you said.



Yeah but you’re retarded and didn’t know what casualties meant



Nonsense. You tried to sue that argument as justification for Russias war. You have Nazi esq ideologies.



No you didn’t. One is a paper that argues Ukrainians aren’t Russian and the other was a book headline that can’t even be sourced

Did you graduate college? Have you ever written a research paper? Do you think this meets academic standards?


Now you’re just being a big baby. The video goes into detail how Ukrainian differs from Russian. You should watch it, might take you from 90-95


Post the excerpt from the book that confirms your argument

Yet Russia is breaking the Urkainian defense

Nope I provided you two articles and a book.
Not a single blog. regarding ukrainian language

I didn't say Ukraine banned russian in 2014. That said read the actual studies presented on the murders the ukraine committed to the donbas reigion.

I gave you 2 linguists studies on the language, which you asked for.
I'm done with it. I provied my point.

 

[Savvir]

Yet Russia is breaking the Urkainian defense

How many more years until Russia takes over Ukraine?

 

[Mister Terrific]

The Gazans seem to be requesting and seeking international support, while they die every day. I would think eventually they will drop arms and ask the UN for suppport.

That’s not what I asked. Do you believe that the Gazans should surrender completely to Israel? Give up their land and autonomy to Israel and hope for Israel’s benevolence.

Yes or no?

Yes I said fight to the last ukraine, mining troop, not total population. If that confused you, you now have clarification.

Is this little English a dialect of English? Ukraine isn’t going to lose all its troops.

Ukraine has 900,000 troops currently serving and 1,200,000 active reserve and they are only conscripting 25 and up so far.

Again stop being hysterical