Breaking... Ukrainian President Zelensky says China has now joined Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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US intelligence services have been bang on throughout the war from the time they predicted the exact time of Putins invasion down to the minute. They probably know what Putin had for breakfast in the morning and the Souh Koreans are certainly imbedded in Pyongyang.

In fact the one time Russia made any significant advancements in the last year primarily at Kursk was because Trump shut off the comms feeding the Ukrainians information on Russia troop movements.

I trust them and my own eyes and ears far more than I trust your orc bloggers
US intelligence said Russia would fall apart in starting the war and economically collapse.
That didn't happen.
US intel said this war would be feasible for Ukraine to hold out on, it is wrong, Ukraine would have lost in its first few months if not for massive funding by the West and even with that funding all that was accomplished was massive losses for Ukraine, massive flight of the country by the youth, especially young men, massive theft of international aid money, loss of territory, and now systematic destruction and losses on all fronts.

Russia has taken over major cities in the eastern provinces and is moving onward across all fronts, while the Ukraine is suffering from shortages, regular shelling, no air defense, no air support, drones that are becoming less and less effective, and is increasingly taking desperate actions to try to win media victories instead of taking solid defensive positions.

Ukraine losing has nothing to do with Trump its been happening for the last 2 years systematically.

I don't care what you trust.
 

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US intelligence said Russia would fall apart in starting the war and economically collapse.
That didn't happen.

Where did it say that?


What has been understood is that Russia a country with the GDP of Italy facing immense demographic decline has been forced into a wartime economy that has only been boosted by oil reserves whilst sending millions of its young males to die or be maimed for a few kilometers of land in a strategically unimportant country for virtually nothing.






I actually follow Russian accounts and life is hard and getting harder and things as simple as opening a bank account are difficult



Imagine having interest rates at 21% and think things are going well :laff:

US intel said this war would be feasible for Ukraine to hold out on, it is wrong,

What the hell are you talking about orc retard? The front lines have barely moved in 2 years and Ukraine is actively pressing into Russian territory. Hell when is the last time Russia has captured a city of more than 100,000?

drones that are becoming less and less effective,

:mjlol: literally what every orc whines about is how they can’t move on the battlefield without being hit by a drone and how the battlefield is completely saturated with them you incel fakkit liar.






I don't care what you trust.

Of course you don’t fakkit, you get your information from “b” :russ:
 

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US intelligence said Russia would fall apart in starting the war and economically collapse.
That didn't happen.
US intel said this war would be feasible for Ukraine to hold out on, it is wrong, Ukraine would have lost in its first few months if not for massive funding by the West and even with that funding all that was accomplished was massive losses for Ukraine, massive flight of the country by the youth, especially young men, massive theft of international aid money, loss of territory, and now systematic destruction and losses on all fronts.

Russia has taken over major cities in the eastern provinces and is moving onward across all fronts, while the Ukraine is suffering from shortages, regular shelling, no air defense, no air support, drones that are becoming less and less effective, and is increasingly taking desperate actions to try to win media victories instead of taking solid defensive positions.

Ukraine losing has nothing to do with Trump its been happening for the last 2 years systematically.

I don't care what you trust.
I mean…. How many more years of “winning” does it take to actually win for Russia?
 

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I mean…. How many more years of “winning” does it take to actually win for Russia?
As long as they can bear.
Never seen a country claim to be winning while constantly going around begging for money, forcefully inducting people into the military, and having to rebuild their army 3 times.
 

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As long as they can bear.
Never seen a country claim to be winning while constantly going around begging for money, forcefully inducting people into the military, and having to rebuild their army 3 times.
it’s been years since the war started.

And Russia still hasn’t defeated a much smaller army that has had to beg for money, forcefully indict people in the military and rebuild their army 3 times.

And Ukraine is right on their border. White pitiful. Aren’t Ukrainian troops still carrying out operations inside Russia? If a country is invaded by a bigger country and performs like Ukraine is performing I would be hella impressed.
 

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it’s been years since the war started.

And Russia still hasn’t defeated a much smaller army that has had to beg for money, forcefully indict people in the military and rebuild their army 3 times.

And Ukraine is right on their border. White pitiful. Aren’t Ukrainian troops still carrying out operations inside Russia? If a country is invaded by a bigger country and performs like Ukraine is performing I would be hella impressed.
Its been about 3 years years since the russian entrance into the Ukrainian civil war.
A war in which NATO backed a ukranian genocide of russian speaking ukranians.
During the initial conflict which was about 2014 and lasted until 2022 NATO feeding Ukraine billions of dollars couldn't defeat 3 provinces.
Russia has those 3 provinces back, crimea and are pushing for more now that when this whole conflict started.

So I'd say with the money, intel, weapons and support Ukraine has been given by the world, vs Russia , Russia has been doing a very good job. Also it seems their strategy has been to prolong the war to bleed out western nations, which worked as US, UK, France, and etc literally don't have the munitions to keep up with funding weaponry to ukraine and kieeping up their own supply for their defense.
 

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:sadbron:Its been about 3 years years since the russian entrance into the Ukrainian civil war.
A war in which NATO backed a ukranian genocide of russian speaking ukranians.
During the initial conflict which was about 2014 and lasted until 2022 NATO feeding Ukraine billions of dollars couldn't defeat 3 provinces.
Russia has those 3 provinces back, crimea and are pushing for more now that when this whole conflict started.

So I'd say with the money, intel, weapons and support Ukraine has been given by the world, vs Russia , Russia has been doing a very good job. Also it seems their strategy has been to prolong the war to bleed out western nations, which worked as US, UK, France, and etc literally don't have the munitions to keep up with funding weaponry to ukraine and kieeping up their own supply for their defense.
So with billions of dollars and NATO help
… Ukraine couldn’t retake 3 of their own provinces during their internal “civil war” right?

Interesting…can you tell me who was funding and arming the separatists? They didn’t just save up their paychecks to pay for operations against a multibillion dollar opponent.
 

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So with billions of dollars and NATO help
… Ukraine couldn’t retake 3 of their own provinces during their internal “civil war” right?

Interesting…can you tell me who was funding and arming the separatists? They didn’t just save up their paychecks to pay for operations against a multibillion dollar opponent.
Russia was supporting the Donbas regions, but with nowhere near the money or supply that Ukraine was getting from NATO.
With all that money the Donbas still was so successful that Ukraine lied to initiated the Minsk accords twice to get breaks for restock.
 

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Russia was supporting the Donbas regions, but with nowhere near the money or supply that Ukraine was getting from NATO.
With all that money the Donbas still was so successful that Ukraine lied to initiated the Minsk accords twice to get breaks for restock.
So Russia was funding a decade+ of civil War in Ukraine …

Decided that strategy wasn’t enough, invaded and is still at war 3 years in with Ukraine taking ground inside Russia. Already at least 3-4 times the casualties we took in Vietnam…. At least 20-40x the deaths we took in 20 years of Afghanistan+iraq.

And this is called “winning”?

Yeesh.
 
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