Breh Claims Listening To Trap Music Means You're Dumb; Liberal Cac Checks Him

[adexkola]

Someone name a trap album of recent that's of quality from top to bottom, in terms of production, lyrics, content... Something that'll be deemed a music and rap classic in a few years. I'm bored and want to hear the best of what trap has to offer.

I don't agree with the black guy talking down on black music (publicly) or equating someone's intelligence with what they listen to.

 

[Ahadi]

Someone name a trap album of recent that's of quality from top to bottom, in terms of production, lyrics, content... Something that'll be deemed a music and rap classic in a few years. I'm bored and want to hear the best of what trap has to offer.

DS2 - Future, Trap Musik - T.I, Brandon Banks - Maxo Kream, Thug motivation 101 - Jeezy, PGLTM - 2Chainz

Just Google and research. Music is a discovery process.

 

[adexkola]

DS2 - Future, Trap Musik - T.I, Brandon Banks - Maxo Kream, Thug motivation 101 - Jeezy, PGLTM - 2Chainz

Just Google and research. Music is a discovery process.

There's a reason why I indicated "recent". I'm aware of most of the albums you've posted. What recent albums in the past 1-2 years would you say match up to a Trap Muzik for example?

If the answer is "go and Google it", you need not reply, thanks.

 

[Wiles]

that was an impressive ass reach

Was it? U prefer cacs telling how to think huh? Blacks can't have opinions on trash cultur? Trap is not the whole black experience cac. U under cover white boys are fukking losers go back to reddit liberal cac cuck

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

the vast majority of people aren't listening for the lyrics, the music just sounds better. Arguing about lyrics in trap music, is like arguing the plot of a porno. This is goofy low hanging fruit pretentious bullshyt. And YES this sounds like white supremacist rhetoric. we know why yall really don't like that genre, it's because it just represents common street level black youth. The same group that people will go out of their way to shyt on, like the c00n in the OP did. Then after yall go outta your way to shyt on those people, yall sit back and talk about "why yall defendin....?"

I like the beats, but I’ve reached a point in my life where I am cautious about the words constantly in my head.

Those words in your mind can manifest.

I’m criticizing the words and lifestyle. We shouldn’t be living that way, nor be content to live that way.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

For me, it's the sound/beat. Because trap was also the exact same sound as "snap" music. There were R&B groups like Cherish making "snap" songs on the exact same beats as "trap". It was mainly a sound. D4L was making Laffy Taffy which was basically trap music about girls.

some of the stuff by the likes of Ti that we called early "trap" still sounds like crunk production; jeezy on the other hand, heads towards modern trap production and then it evolved from there. This video describes the roots and evolution into the modern sound (Shorty Red, Lex Luger, Metro Boomin, Zaytoven etc..)

 

[Black Magisterialness]

As one who grew up playing in Orchestra in grade school, its incredibly complex...however, raps complexity comes in its use of language. The driving of drums is meant to appeal to the base level brain (not in a negative way, in a humanistic way) and get you to focus on the words. Rap uses the more words and figures of speech than any other form of music.

And Jazz is more complex than classical ever could be. Classical is complicated in the sense that there's lots of moving parts to bring together in a cohesive whole. Jazz is that PLUS complex technique, improvisation and changing tempo/timbre.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

If beethoven were alive today he probably would be a producer.

Trap music is not easy to make, and its not impossible to appreciate both classical and trap music. There were people who were remixing classical tracks for a hot minute and rhyming over them.

He should've been checked. I'm not mad at this. The solution to racism is white people understanding that white supremacy is a problem and talking to each other about this. If the cac that checked him keeps that same enegy for his folk then he's part of the solution and not part of the problem

 

[Yehuda]

Both are doing too much. That "trap is for the simple minded" talk is 100% respectability politics babble but he should still be able to feel like trap is trash without getting called a c00n by a cac named Steve.

 

[invalid]

Trap music production evolved out of general Southern style production and Crunk production. The difference is the content IMO. Crunk is more call & response and party based (ATL style) with repetitive chants while Trap content is more about the hustle (basically a Southern version of Jayz content)

Is this enough for it to be its own sub-genre though?

What are some other examples of musical genres being formed based off predominantly it’s content?

Also, what sub-genre of Rap would you say is the most complex on the production side?

 

[Goat poster]

It’s a reason why Beethoven music not really sampled in hip hop. Creh was trash for the most part. Try and listen to some Beethoven to chop up, you not gonna find much shyt you wanna fukk with. He was pretty swagless for the most part. With that sad. Mannie did flip this shyt into I need a hot girl

Mannie a genius wit the beats

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Is this enough for it to be its own sub-genre though?

Early Trap still sounds like Crunk/general Southern 808-based music sonically....it just had content based around hustling

Early producers creating trap music included Lil Jon from Atlanta, Georgia, where the term originated as a reference to places where drug deals are made, who along with Mannie Fresh from New Orleans and DJ Paul from Memphis, Tennessee worked with local acts in Atlanta including Dungeon Family, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Three 6 Mafia, and Ghetto Mafia.[26] In 1992, one of the earliest records to release was UGK's "Cocaine In The Back of the Ride" from their debut EP, "The Southern Way". Later in 1992, they released the popular "Pocket Full of Stones" from their major-label debut album Too Hard to Swallow. It was also featured in the 1993 film Menace II Society. In 1996, Master P released his single "Mr. Ice Cream Man" from his fifth studio album Ice Cream Man. Fans and critics started to refer to rappers whose primary lyrical topic was drug dealing as "trap rappers".[7] T.I.’s 2001 song "Dope Boyz", from his debut album I'm Serious, includes the lyrics "the dope boyz in the trap nikka / the thug nikka, drug dealer where you at".[27] David Drake of Complex wrote that "the trap in the early 2000s wasn't a genre, it was a real place", and the term was later adopted to describe the "music made about that place".[28]

Modern Trap evolved out of the same Crunk but is the stuff you hear with rolling hi-hats and it sounds more dramatic, menacing or more atmospheric

Trap music employs multilayered thin- or thick-textured monophonic drones with sometimes a melodic accompaniment expressed with synthesizers; crisp, grimy, and rhythmic snares, deep 808 kick drums, double-time, triple-time, and similarly divided hi-hats, and a cinematic and symphonic use of string, brass, woodwind, and keyboard instruments to create an energetic, hard-hitting, deep, and variant atmosphere.[7][8][23][24] These primary characteristics, the signature sound of trap music, originated from producer Shawty Redd. Trap may use a range of tempos, from 50 BPM (programmed at 100 BPM to achieve finer hi-hat subdivision) to 88 (176) BPM, but the tempo of a typical trap beat is around 70 (140) BPM

What are some other examples of musical genres being formed based off predominantly it’s content?

Roots Reggae and Rocksteady

Also, what sub-genre of Rap would you say is the most complex on the production side?

It's on a producer to producer bases within subgenres IMO. Like Dr Dre Gfunk, UGK Texas style, Atlanta Dungeon Fam/Organized Noise, DJ Quik, Kendrick and the team who did TPAB etc...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How can you call classical music bad but classical music or "jazz" as you call it with soul good?

They are two different styles and one came before the other.

Some of the best jazz musicians are classically trained....but you didn't know that

jazz musicians can learn/play classical easier than classical musicians can learn/play jazz



classical chick blown away by the 2 guys with direct blues roots



basically, classical musicians are slaves to a/the written score