Brehs is Mike Trout the best player in MLB?

[Versa]

Miggy won MVP because voters are dumb. Miggy is a slightly better hitter, Trout is significantly better at every other facet of the game

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

No. His best year was when he had a .609 OBP which is the most ridiculous stat of all time when you think about it. He did have 101 RBIs though so I was wrong that he didn't break the 100 RBI total mark, but regardless, the RBIs weren't what made his season historically the best of all time. It was his OBP and isolated power numbers which are out of this world

I've brought this up in the past. Drawing 232 walks is more mindblowing than 73 HR. The BB record will never ever be touched.

 

[FreshAIG]

the argument is you purposefully using the qualifyer of (slightly) in order to LITERALLY slight Miguel Cabrera. He is DEFINITELY the best hitter in baseball.

I'm not slighting him, I understand you're a Tigers fan so you take offense, but he might definitely be the best but he isn't significantly the best. A grade of 99 is DEFINITELY superior to a 95, but it's also just "slightly" better. This is Miguel and Trout as hitters.

 

[DaRock]

No. His best year was when he had a .609 OBP which is the most ridiculous stat of all time when you think about it. He did have 101 RBIs though so I was wrong that he didn't break the 100 RBI total mark, but regardless, the RBIs weren't what made his season historically the best of all time. It was his OBP and isolated power numbers which are out of this world

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

I'm not slighting him, I understand you're a Tigers fan so you take offense, but he might definitely be the best but he isn't significantly the best. A grade of 99 is DEFINITELY superior to a 95, but it's also just "slightly" better. This is Miguel and Trout as hitters.

But a 99 gets you in to harvard and a 95 gets you into Michigan.

Harvard > Michigan.

This is Miguel and Trout as hitters.

 

[FreshAIG]

Are you slow? I'm not looking at just SLG %, I'm looking at the full stats.

My head hurts talking to you

You started off saying that Cabrera's OPS is higher so he's significantly better than Trout as a hitter. I explain to you the flaws of looking at OPS because slugging is an overrated stat. So no, in this argument, you have not demonstrated or explained you're looking at full stats. You're looking at ONE stat and not a very good one. If you were looking at the full stats, you'd conclude, like anyone who is being real would and not bias, is that Cabrera is merely slightly better as a hitter than Trout.

 

[FreshAIG]

But a 99 gets you in to harvard and a 95 gets you into Michigan.

Harvard > Michigan.

This is Miguel and Trout as hitters.

LMAO this nikka

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

LMAO this nikka

when you're talking at that level of hitter the differences matter breh. Its like Bonds and Frank Thomas. Thomas is great, first ballot, one of the GOAT. But then theres barry bonds.

 

[HookersandIceCream]

My head hurts talking to you


You started off saying that Cabrera's OPS is higher so he's significantly better than Trout as a hitter. I explain to you the flaws of looking at OPS because slugging is an overrated stat. So no, in this argument, you have not demonstrated or explained you're looking at full stats. You're looking at ONE stat and not a very good one. If you were looking at the full stats, you'd conclude, like anyone who is being real would and not bias, is that Cabrera is merely slightly better as a hitter than Trout.

Breh stfu. Its clear you are skewing the argument by with YOUR opinion on which stat is more important than the other.
I am looking at the overall picture.

wRC+ - Runs per PA scaled where 100 is average; both league and park adjusted; based on wOBA
Trout 176
Cabrera 192

wOBA - Weighted On Base Average
Trout .423
Cabrera .455

 

[Amulet of Immortality]

Trout is the best player.

 

[Reign X]

Trout got robbed of a mvp in 2012. He was clearly better then Cabrera that year. It's not even really debateable and should probably have a thread of it's own. 49 stolen bases and only caught 5 times. Solid defensive year compared to Cabrera being below average at 3b. To me, that easily makes up for the .036 diff in OPS.

2013 was closer. Is Cabreras power enough to negate the difference in defense and speed? That year can be argued either way but I would lean Trout.

- at Tigers fans getting butthurt and negging me. 2012 is pretty clear, spin it however you want though

 

[GoFlipAPack]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/mike-trout-peak-los-angeles-angels-mlb/

 

[Eternal Tecate]

OPS is an overrated stats because Slugging percentage is an overrated stat. If I go 4-4 with 4 singles and you go 1-4 with a HR, we have the same slugging percentage, that shyt doesn't tell you the real story of power. Miggy has more power indeed, but it's not to the point where it makes up the gap in defense, base stealing and speed.

Yes it does

 

[Eternal Tecate]

But a 99 gets you in to harvard and a 95 gets you into Michigan.

Harvard > Michigan.

This is Miguel and Trout as hitters.

 

[Miggs]

whats his WAR though

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