Brehs this is worse than Decoy yards...

[HHR]

But they haven't created a "potential RBI" stat, that would be absurd. Just like a potential assist stat.

Yes they have.

Expected RBI Totals: The Top 267 xRBI Totals for 2013 | Community – FanGraphs Baseball

It's not completely analogous to assists, but the idea is the same. The goal is to remove as much "noise", or things out of the player's control, from the process.

 

[We Ready]

Yes they have.

Expected RBI Totals: The Top 267 xRBI Totals for 2013 | Community – FanGraphs Baseball

It's not completely analogous to assists, but the idea is the same. The goal is to remove as much "noise", or things out of the player's control, from the process.

Never knew that

 

[FTBS]

nikkas so used to giving individual blame/credit to things that are dependent upon others that they are at the concept of taking the other person out and making it a truly individual stat . Assists are intended to measure how well you set your teammates up, not how good your teammates are at making shots. I'm sure people will be more receptive to things like this when find a way to make them benefit a person they like . That said, none of those numbers sound good for Mr. Russell .

 

[HHR]

Never knew that

The amount of different stats, and different interpretations of the same data, in each sport is overwhelming. It's why every team has their own in-house analytics department with their own proprietary information.

I can promise you that when a team looks at a point guard's production, they care infinitely more about making the optimal pass/decision than whether or not he gets credited with an assist.

 

[Lakerman0834]

The amount of different stats, and different interpretations of the same data, in each sport is overwhelming. It's why every team has their own in-house analytics department with their own proprietary information.

I can promise you that when a team looks at a point guard's production, they care infinitely more about making the optimal pass/decision than whether or not he gets credited with an assist.

Luke Walton made the proper passes also but he was still trash .

 

[MikelArteta]

All these analytics make me wanna barf

 

[HHR]

Luke Walton made the proper passes also but he was still trash .

OK?

 

[Bilz]

Do these advanced stats consider the quality of the pass? Like hitting a guy in rhythm where he likes to receive the pass? If your passes are all at guys feet and you have no assists as a result...

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Way too early to turn on d'angelo like this

 

[HHR]

Do these advanced stats consider the quality of the pass? Like hitting a guy in rhythm where he likes to receive the pass? If your passes are all at guys feet and you have no assists as a result...

Some probably do, using the on court player tracker data. But this is why I said it's not analogous to RBIs, and why more info is needed, especially in such small sample sizes.

That said, a PG constantly making these kind of mistakes probably won't be an NBA PG for very long.

 

[I.V.]

Do you not understand context at all?

If you want the "assist" to be an individual stat, you basically have to remove the outcome from the equation.

This is basically putting the "but his teammates suck" argument into a quantifiable number.

These guys sound like baseball heads still defending RBIs as a major stat.


The poster who used it... used it incorrectly, and isn't making a great point with the stat. But the reason behind the statistic is legitimate. Plainly: Who creates the most scoring opportunities for their team.

 

[Shogun]

If you factor in potential points (shots that should have gone in if Melo didn't brick them), my man is on pace for the scoring title

With potential wins (games we should have won if we scored more points), we undefeated

 

[Won Won]

Went about as well as expected haha

 

[wire28]

I hate analytics and the people that love them

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

I mean technixally i lead the league in this stat and i dont even play