Brehs, we as the gaming community NEED A third company to rise

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What u mean "under"?? Fallout is a multiplat game that's coming to PS4/Larry/PC this November. The larry version just has PC mod support with it coming to PS4 later. Other than that it's as much a third party game as Batman or Call of Duty.
cod and battlefront have some exclusives for ps4 and doesn't fallout have that for xbox?
 

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And I mean for consoles, Steam ain't advertising to the same crew

With Nintendo not looking like they'll just blatantly ignore next gen consoles going forward and third party developers, they'll either continue appealing to a certain niche (mainly portable) or become a third party studio themselves

Sony and Microsoft can basically get away with doing whatever they want with these lineups (2016 looks a lot better tho) with no real problems. We need that third thing to spur them to actually put out things instead of promises you feel me? Exclusives shouldn't almost all be skippable and third party titles shouldn't be compromised with PC vs Console porting

Just my thoughts
The market can't support three fully. If ever more than two rise then one always falls.
 

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The market can't support three fully. If ever more than two rise then one always falls.
In the last Gen, when Sony was making their comeback, Nintendo was producing their best first parties and Xbox was doing numbers at least (although using very reptitive means of doing so)
 

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In the last Gen, when Sony was making their comeback, Nintendo was producing their best first parties and Xbox was doing numbers at least (although using very reptitive means of doing so)
Nintendo was never a major player when it came to competing with Sony and Microsoft. They targeted an entirely different crowd. The hardcore gaming market won't back 3 consoles. In truth the market would prefer to converge to a single console. The closest we've come is the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2 and we all saw how that turned out.
 

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Nintendo was never a major player when it came to competing with Sony and Microsoft. They targeted an entirely different crowd. The hardcore gaming market won't back 3 consoles. In truth the market would prefer to converge to a single console. The closest we've come is the Gamecube, Xbox, and Playstation 2 and we all saw how that turned out.
I never said we needed 3 hardcore consoles. The quality of Nintendo's first party titles forced Microsoft and Sony (at different time periods) to crank up their level of first party titles
 

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I never said we needed 3 hardcore consoles. The quality of Nintendo's first party titles forced Microsoft and Sony (at different time periods) to crank up their level of first party titles
The only influence Nintendo had on Microsoft and Sony was their half assed attempts at adopting motion controls which didn't even last a year strong. Nintendo had no effect on first party games unless you wanna argue that Mario Kart and Wii Sports made Uncharted and Halo better games.
 

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The only influence Nintendo had on Microsoft and Sony was their half assed attempts at adopting motion controls which didn't even last a year strong. Nintendo had no effect on first party games unless you wanna argue that Mario Kart and Wii Sports made Uncharted and Halo better games.
We gonna ignore titles like Mario Galaxy and LOZ games and the impact of shyt like animal crossing and the other niche titles they intoduced?

Their niche of games sold more than the other two companies did. At the end of the day, that is prevalent to companies.
 

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What influence did Mario Galaxy or Animal Crossing have on any first party games from Sony or Microsoft? This is like comparing the ticket sales of a Pixar movie to a movie like Furious 7.

The truth is as a gaming community we need Microsoft to turn this thing into a race again. Sony is crushing them and has no competition. Nintendo isn't interested in competing with either.
 

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We gonna ignore titles like Mario Galaxy and LOZ games and the impact of shyt like animal crossing and the other niche titles they intoduced?

Their niche of games sold more than the other two companies did. At the end of the day, that is prevalent to companies.

:what:
 

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What influence did Mario Galaxy or Animal Crossing have on any first party games from Sony or Microsoft? This is like comparing the ticket sales of a Pixar movie to a movie like Furious 7.

The truth is as a gaming community we need Microsoft to turn this thing into a race again. Sony is crushing them and has no competition. Nintendo isn't interested in competing with either.
Nintendo outsold both other consoles, fukk you mean breh? :dahell:

Sales is what drives innovation, if you ain't selling shyt, you don't have the space to do new shyt. Reason why Nintendo can afford to take Ls with third parties is because the Wii and DS did numbers, and they did numbers because they put out enjoyable games. Am I a Nintendo fan? No. But I recognize that they won the first half of 2015 (and late 2014) gaming with shyt like Bayonetta 2, Splatoon, Super Smash Bros, the Yoshi and Kirby joints

The point is, them as almost exclusively a one studio sourced gaming company is putting out superior first parties than both combined. That being said, it's hard to still consider them as part as the general war when you get to console gaming, as consoles are by no means Nintendo's selling point. I personally want a company with the same initiative as Nintendo to come in the hardcore gaming and at the very least light a fire under Sony/Microsoft

And yeah this goes for Sony too, they just got two straight years of nothing but boo boo out the way, if 2016 doesn't fulfill on these E3 promises, they trash too. They just happened to be picking on a retarded kid, but now Microsoft read some books, got in the gym, and they genuinely back in the fight.
 

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Microsoft had a disappointing E3 presentation, but the truth is, they did the same thing as Sony, except they debuted like no first party titles. If I put this into numbers, Sony's presentation was like a 9 and Microsoft's was like a 7, but I give them one whole point because of the backwards compatability, something dumb ass Sony should've been introduced. It seems like they came correct going forward, but it seemed like that with Killzone, Knack, and Driveclub too :francis:

If these new ideas stick tho, I'll eat my words
 

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No...so they can get back into the console race properly, put out a high powered machine with 3rd party support.

This isn't completely necessary. They do need better 3rd party support though.

I don't understand why it bothers people that Nintendo deliberately makes weaker hardware than Sony/Microsoft. Who cares as long as the games are fun. Also having high powered hardware means bigger budget games which in turn means you can't get a game published on such a platform without funding from big companies (i.e.: EA, Activision, Capcom, Sony, Square, etc.). Which in turn means less creative/artistic/unique games.

Nintendo does need to fix the 3rd party issue pronto.
 
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