Couldn't find the whole thing as it was just on TV.....But I found a clip
He was trying to backtrack on what the UK will receive. So free movement of people is still on the table after all that?
He literally gave him the
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He literally gave him the
The arguments against the EU could be made about the UK monarchy
and Her Majestys Civil Service...but they couldn't really come out and say that
These dudes are delusional.
Destroy your trump card as the financial hub of Europe granbrehs
Give zero fukks about ireland/scotland and your children granbrehs
Trajan
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An old Boris article for the Telegraph from 2013 
On discussing some of the consequences of leaving the EU:
We must be ready to leave the EU if we don't get what we want
Some of the poor Leavers are in for a wakeup call. If you weren't eating then you won't be eating under a right wing government. Brexiteers have already been backtracking some of their ducktales and Boris has been keeping a low profile.
I suspect that we may see a movement towards the far left and Corbyn type leaders once these poor towns realise they've been hoodwinked.
On discussing some of the consequences of leaving the EU:
We must be ready to leave the EU if we don't get what we want
Some of the poor Leavers are in for a wakeup call. If you weren't eating then you won't be eating under a right wing government. Brexiteers have already been backtracking some of their ducktales and Boris has been keeping a low profile.
I suspect that we may see a movement towards the far left and Corbyn type leaders once these poor towns realise they've been hoodwinked.
Trajan
Veteran
Honestly I listened to both sides and Brexit did not have a clear plan for what happens after because it was coalition of different parties and groups. They didn't put forth an alternative to the current system. Their stance was let's just leave and then we'll figure out what to do.
This was my post before I voted:
Remain.
I understand their concerns but Brexiters are delusional. Legitimate concerns over Europe have been hijacked by the likes of Nigel Farage and now some people think leaving the EU will essentially bring back the glory of the Empire days.
If Brexit occurs...the UK would still be subject to EU rules inc freedom of movement in order to trade on favourable terms. The EU accounts for half of UK trade.
NO, America will not be an alternative market:
Barack Obama: Brexit would put UK 'back of the queue' for trade talks
Overall it doesn't make economic sense. I need something more than ''we'll be alright. trust me''.
ill
Superstar
Everyone seems to have been counting on America to take a hardline stance against British trade. Obama just came out and backtracked and said were gonna take care of the Brits.
Trece
Superstar
An old Boris article for the Telegraph from 2013
On discussing some of the consequences of leaving the EU:
We must be ready to leave the EU if we don't get what we want
Some of the poor Leavers are in for a wakeup call. If you weren't eating then you won't be eating under a right wing government. Brexiteers have already been backtracking some of their ducktales and Boris has been keeping a low profile.
I suspect that we may see a movement towards the far left and Corbyn type leaders once these poor towns realise they've been hoodwinked.
I would normally agree but there is one variable everyone is missing and that is terrorism. In the next ten years Europe will experience some of the worst terrorism attacks the world has ever seen. This will push the populace further to the right. Germany will be next and then France to look for restrictions on freedom of movement. I would be surprised if Angela Merkel wins re-election next year.
See there are two camps of thought. One side basically thinks societies can evolve into one world governments and eliminate war if we cooperate financially. They believe in the good nature of the human spirit and believe that everyone regardless of language and culture can basically unionize if money and jobs are concerned. This new world order thing isnt a myth. The united nations was formed for this reason and even the european union was started as a financial agreement like NAFTA is here.
Then there is the other side of thinking that basically says history repeats itself. Times change people dont. They see a war brewing in the middle east. They look at the beginnings of sharia law that started in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia and has since spread to other places like Turkey and now Belgium. It isny the skin color of people that frighten them but rather the idealogy that says anyone that doesnt pray on a rug pointing to the East 3X a day should be slaughtered no exceptions. All the free trade and democracy spreading in the world will not fix that. And basically we are all heading for a giant showdown in the next 100 years because that idealogy is not slowing down in fact it is spreading and growing and no one has been able to stop it hence the Brexit vote whcih is supposed to restrict freedom of movememt and allow the UK to build tougher immigration laws.
We will know for sure if this is a bad idea in a few years, not in 24 hours. And this google thing about what is the European Union? What is that supposed to mean? I live in Los Angeles. California is 48th in education in the country and we vote liberal all the time. Intelligence has nothing to to do with voting liberal or conservative. Matter of fact, democrats rely on a largely uneducated vote to push their agenda. So lets stop all of the "other side is stupid"
So really there are 2 sides, the idealists and the realists. Maybe people do evolve and we are squandering our chance for world peace.
Or maybe the people that believe in one world government and globalism are propping themselves up and getting filthy rich while the cancer of islamic radicalism continues to spread.
This whole thing really came down to Islamophobia which was excacerbated by the threat of terrorism.
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Germany and France rally rest of EU after Brexit ‘shock’
German foreign minister says the day the UK voted to leave the EU was one of his ‘most bitter.’
By
JANOSCH DELCKER
6/25/16, 10:48 AM CET
Updated 6/25/16, 2:47 PM CET
BERLIN – Germany and France will attempt to reassure the remaining 27 members of the European Union — following Britain’s vote to leave — that they won’t have to push head with deeper integration faster than they want.
Berlin and Paris will tell the other four founding members of the bloc at a meeting of foreign ministers on Saturday that they should ensure a “flexible” approach to further integration — meaning countries can opt out of common projects if they wish — according to a Franco-German position paper quoted by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper.
“Europe needs direction. France and Germany have a special responsibility,” says the document prepared for the meeting in Berlin of the foreign ministers of Germany, France, Netherlands, Italy, Belgium and Luxembourg.
Britain had already opted out of two of the EU’s most ambitious projects — the Schengen passport-free travel zone, and the euro common currency — but that was not enough to persuade its voters to remain in the bloc.
Amid concern that other EU countries with strong Euroskeptic currents might get cold feet, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said it was essential to prevent the EU from reacting hysterically, or falling into a state of “shock.”
“It’s not the beginning of the end of Europe, but it’s one of the most bitter days I have experienced in Europe,” he said on Friday night in an interview on German television.
“We won’t let anybody take this Europe from us,” Steinmeier then said ahead of Saturday’s meeting.
This article was updated with further details.
Germany and France rally rest of EU after Brexit ‘shock’
German foreign minister says the day the UK voted to leave the EU was one of his ‘most bitter.’
By
JANOSCH DELCKER
6/25/16, 10:48 AM CET
Updated 6/25/16, 2:47 PM CET
BERLIN – Germany and France will attempt to reassure the remaining 27 members of the European Union — following Britain’s vote to leave — that they won’t have to push head with deeper integration faster than they want.
Berlin and Paris will tell the other four founding members of the bloc at a meeting of foreign ministers on Saturday that they should ensure a “flexible” approach to further integration — meaning countries can opt out of common projects if they wish — according to a Franco-German position paper quoted by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper.
“Europe needs direction. France and Germany have a special responsibility,” says the document prepared for the meeting in Berlin of the foreign ministers of Germany, France, Netherlands, Italy, Belgium and Luxembourg.
Britain had already opted out of two of the EU’s most ambitious projects — the Schengen passport-free travel zone, and the euro common currency — but that was not enough to persuade its voters to remain in the bloc.
Amid concern that other EU countries with strong Euroskeptic currents might get cold feet, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said it was essential to prevent the EU from reacting hysterically, or falling into a state of “shock.”
“It’s not the beginning of the end of Europe, but it’s one of the most bitter days I have experienced in Europe,” he said on Friday night in an interview on German television.
“We won’t let anybody take this Europe from us,” Steinmeier then said ahead of Saturday’s meeting.
This article was updated with further details.
Germany and France rally rest of EU after Brexit ‘shock’
the cac mamba
Veteran
if theres only one government, then who would you go to war with
the cac mamba
Veteran
that dude farage just told obama to stay the fukk out of it 
that dude farage just told obama to stay the fukk out of it
The handed globalist Obama that L
Barack Obama’s failed Brexit charm offensive
The arguments he made didn’t seem to break through in a real and lasting way.
By
EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE
6/25/16, 7:42 AM CET
Updated 6/25/16, 4:27 PM CET
Turns out Barack Obama wasn’t quite Britain’s cup of tea.
Despite an approval rating in the 80s in Britain when the president landed in London in April, the polling bump that the Remain campaign was counting on from Obama’s endorsement didn’t materialize.
The arguments he made didn’t seem to break through in a real and lasting way, at least when weighted against the massive anti-immigrant sentiment, frustration with the European Union’s bureaucracy and regulations and Cameron’s tendency to inspire the kind of political feelings that come from eating a dry, room temperature scone.
“I don’t think we ever thought this was going to be the golden chalice,” said one of the people involved in planning Obama’s trip, but “we were anticipating it would help highlight how important the stakes were.”
White House aides pushed back Friday on the idea that the Brexit was in any way a referendum on Obama. Yes, he put himself out there, they say, but he would have been remiss if he hadn’t spoken up for America’s interests against having Britain leave the EU — and there’s a good argument to be made that the outcome would have been even more lopsided if he hadn’t gotten involved.
In the end, Obama seems to have been a ripple against the nationalist wave that’s now threatening to pull apart the European Union and the United Kingdom, and upend the arc toward progressive pragmatism that Obama wants to help define his geopolitical legacy.
Instead, the result is a talking point for Republicans —“I actually think his recommendation perhaps caused it to fail,” mused presumptive nominee Donald Trump on his golf course ribbon-cutting trip to Scotland on Friday — and a death shiver for many Democrats who suddenly see Hillary Clinton’s collapse in the face of Trump’s nationalism as a very real possibility.
That’s all happening as the White House is once again thrown off from trying to sew up outstanding issues before the end of Obama’s term, now having to deal with reconfiguring the relationships with Britain and Europe, and with Cameron’s resignation, meaning a new prime minister will be coming in just as Obama is preparing to leave office.
Even the sidelining of Boris Johnson, the former London mayor and Leave leader who incited an uproar by greeting the president with an op-ed rehashing the old rumor about kicking a Winston Churchill bust out of the White House that he blamed on the “part-Kenyan president’s ancestral dislike of the British empire,” lasted only a few days. And when the initial outrage had passed, Johnson seemed strengthened, a head-to-head with the president of the United States only feeding the sense among voters that the would-be prime minister could stand up for Britain.
“There was no bounce for them — quite the opposite,” said one person involved with Vote Leave. “Afterwards our poll ratings went up.”
Obama’s highest numbers were among the young voters Remain knew was with them but feared wouldn’t vote — a YouGov poll taken during the vote showed 75 percent of voters 18-24 were with Remain, as opposed to 39 percent among voters 65 and older.
Remain operatives milked that every way they could, adding a youth town hall to Obama’s schedule and a meeting with Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, who’d proven a consistent pain from the start.
“What it did was say to young people who love him the most, ‘Start to pay attention,’ ” the Remain operative said.
“Cameron couldn’t speak to the young people, Corbyn wouldn’t—Obama could.”
Remain operatives attribute the uptick in youth voter registration to Obama’s visit. Without that, they say (and the White House agrees), the vote would probably have been worse for the White House.
This wasn’t how aides on both sides of the Atlantic envisioned what would happen when Cameron called Obama last fall to personally ask him to come join the campaign. Obama immediately agreed — the European Union fits his political and economic worldview and the British prime minister has been an important partner. They’ve even developed a personal rapport.
It didn’t hurt that the Remain campaign, from the timing of the referendum to the voter outreach model, was all being orchestrated by Jim Messina — the president’s 2012 campaign manager and still informal political adviser, who’d first met Cameron as part of the president’s entourage in his 2009 trip to London and was then fresh off leading Cameron to a larger than expected Parliament reelection last year.
For the referendum election, The Messina Group wasn’t running the polling. They outsourced it to a company run by a former Cameron aide. But they were keeping close track of the numbers, and Messina’s connections to both leaders helped craft the argument Obama made, both in an op-ed and then at a press conference at 10 Downing Street: advice from a friend that leaving would be a really, really bad idea, with some real talk about the consequences for trade and the economy.
White House aides downplay the decision to get involved. The president wanted to go to the U.K. this year anyway for a farewell stop to say recognize the eight years of partnership and see the Queen. Cameron’s request determined the timing, and they were happy to help with that, but before and after the trip, they rated Obama’s involvement as equivalent to his comments two years ago urging the Scottish against independence in their referendum.
Some people involved with the Remain campaign say Obama helped enough. Some worry that they overplayed it, with British voters rejecting what any outsider, this one included, had to say about what they should do. Others say that in retrospect it’s clear there wasn’t much he ever could have done.
“The president’s super popular in the U.K. It just speaks to voters across the world now moving against the establishment,” said Mitch Stewart, a top Obama campaign aide who helped set up the Remain campaign’s field operation at the end of last year and is now among those fretting about what the Brexit means for Trump.
Nothing! insisted Clinton aides on Friday, except for just how terrible and dangerous Trump is.
“The lesson out of all this is we need someone like Hillary Clinton in all of this, not someone reckless, erratic and divisive like Donald Trump,” senior Clinton adviser Jake Sullivan said on a call with reporters Friday afternoon.
Rather than encouraging nationalism or portending that the polls showing Clinton ahead are a mirage, Sullivan said, the British touching the stove ahead of the American vote and sending markets and politics into crisis now just might help crystallize the choice.
Americans are “going to look at what happened with this vote,” Sullvian said. “Come November, they are going to make their own decision about the kind of leadership they’re looking for, the kind of solutions that they’re looking for.”
Tom McTague contributed reporting from London.
Barack Obama’s failed Brexit charm offensive
if theres only one government, then who would you go to war with
That could present a problem.
Maybe the young voters should have actually gone out to vote instead of staying home. The exit poll numbers show the huge disparity between thr few old voters staying home compared to the young ones.
Yep. Everyone should vote. It's disgusting how many people want to act political online but won't take an hour out of their day when it's time for their voice to truly mean something. Youve got Bernie Bros, probably the most vocal of all when it comes to online activity, still talking like "I'm going to sit this election out".
