Gil Scott-Heroin
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i) You can't compare it to the Warriors offensive production, since the Cavs played against different/worse competition in the postseason (inflation of ORTG)
ii) They had two of the best ISO scorers in NBA history, and the greatest cast of 3-pt shooters in NBA history - basically, it wasn't the system that allowed them to put up great #s on offense, it was their talent
iii) The lack of system forced LeBron to have an imbalance of energy, which is why he takes breaks on the defensive end - if an equal-opportunity offense was implemented, it would allow him to pick up more slack on the defensive end - the end of the floor where the Cavs really needed his input, due to the lack of defensive personnel. What good is it exerting all this energy on offense, if you're not going to have enough for defense?
iv) To layer the point above - while those #s look "incredible" in a vacuum, they were harming the success of the team, because they weren't utilizing their players properly.
"I don't think you quite understand what I'm getting at because you haven't been saying that.
It's not silly at all to blame the system (not saying that it's completely to blame, but it played a part in their demise). Having a proper system would've given them a better chance of winning - the Cavaliers have a ridiculous amount of offensive talent, except there wasn't a model in place that utilized their strengths properly, which is why LeBron and Kyrie just end up controlling the majority of CLE's possessions throughout series', and the rest of the squad are reduced to spot-up shooters (this particularly applies to teams who're equal or greater threats).
If the offensive load was balanced evenly throughout the rotation, and not simply reliant upon the good ole Bron ball, LeBron and the rest of the squad would've been able to distribute their efforts more evenly on both ends, instead of that cotawful mess of a performance they put up in the Finals."
"Cleveland had too many players at either end of the offensive/defensive spectrum, instead of aiming to fall closer to the middle. Which then created this overreliance on their weaker defensive players (Love) to carry them defensively, because their stronger defensive players (LeBron) were exhausting themselves on the offensive end."
I'm not necessarily speaking about what type of players they are (although it's part of the equation), like you are, I'm speaking about their roles and effort on offense and defense. Yes, the Cavs don't have many two-way players, which is why they needed to play to their strengths instead of forcing square pegs into round holes - which is exactly what they were doing with players like Love.
"The strengths of this Cavs side are almost entirely on the offensive end, not on defense. So it makes sense to UTILIZE their personnel the best way they possibly can on offense, not reduce their roles.
That means sharing the load offensively and actively getting more players involved in the play. Therefore it allows each and every player to balance their efforts evenly on both ends, instead of what's happening now where LeBron is controlling the possessions, fazing out the rest of the team from handling the ball and using almost all his energy on offense.
They needed LeBron to have more impact on defense (due to not having too many defensive-abled game changers), and they could've made up the difference on the other end because they had the "offensive talent" to do so. The team as a whole would've been more engaged and in rhythm and in turn would've made their offense more unpredictable, instead of the 1v1 shyt they were doing (which GS allowed them to do) throughout the series."
"That's meaningless against my argument, for the simple fact I'm arguing about what happened in the Finals. They can produce at a high level against lesser opponents playing that way, but when it comes to equal or greater threats it doesn't work the same. What you're also failing to realize is that, just because a lineup(s) has a higher offensive rating doesn't necessarily mean it's the most successful type of style to play.
What good is it if these LeBron-led teams are putting all their focus on the offensive side of things and neglecting the other end? What good is it for LeBron to exhaust himself on offense, when his team actually needs his efforts on defense more? You don't think a proper system which valued ball movement that got everyone involved in accordance with their abilities was not only better for each player individually and for the team (on offense), but better for the team because players like LeBron could make more of a difference on defense, which they are in more need of?"
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