Bron from 2011-2018 had 8 consecutive finals appearances, from 2019-2023.... 1 finals appearance. What changed?

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The League changed.
It got better - higher quantity of better players distributed across teams. No one is scared of Lebron.
Plus, Father Time is undefeated.
 

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Number of times LeBron been swept by Least teams: 0 times in 37 series

Number of times LeBron been swept by West teams: 3 times in 13 series, possibly 4 times in 14 series

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Number of times LeBron lost in 1st round in the Least: 0 times in 13 playoff runs

Number of times LeBron lost in 1st round in the West: 2 times in 4 playoff runs

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Number of times LeBron made the Finals in the Least: 9 times in 13 playoff runs

Number of times LeBron made the Finals in the West: 1 times in 4 playoff runs (@ Disneyworld)

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Number of times LeBron missed the playoffs in the Least: 1 time in 14 year his rookie season

Number of times LeBron missed the playoffs in the West: 2 times in 6 years

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To educated basketball fans LeBron legacy and career will always be contextualized by playin in the JV conference. A conference where nikkas like Millsap, Horford, Lowry, DeMar, Isaiah, Oladipo, Kemba, Drummond, Monta, Jrue, Rondo etc. were the BEST players on playoff teams, even leading #1 seeds.... Yet none of em was All NBA caliber shyt none of em nikkas could even sniff the All Star team when they was out West in a real conference :wow:

Nowhere close to top 10-15 player and add to that LeBron since Miami/2nd Cleveland run even stacked the deck having 2 of the few stars in the conference in his squad beatin up on JV teams without even a legit star (Wade/Bosh then Kyrie/Love).

Dwight was the only true superstar competition in Least and he beat LeBron H2H as a big underdog w/o HCA or his AS guard Jameer. Then DRose too but he only had 1 healthy prime season and LeBron already done made a superteam :unimpressed:

Why he aint strollin to the finals no more :damn: nikkas still sayin he All NBA 2nd team easy. 27/8/7 the last 4 seasons since he got back from Disneyworld so what changed :jbhmm:

1 Finals run in 7 seasons out West that was a global pandemic and relocation to Disneyworld

0 1st round Ls in Least 13 playoff rounds in Least
3 1st round Ls in 5 playoff runs out West

I guess shyt different when ya 1st round opponent be 1st round byes wit opponents led by

Antawn, Jrue, Kemba, Drummond, Monta, Oladipo

VS

Ja, Booker, Jokic, Ant
 

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1 Finals run in 7 seasons out West that was a global pandemic and relocation to Disneyworld

0 1st round Ls in Least 13 playoff rounds in Least
3 1st round Ls in 5 playoff runs out West

I guess shyt different when ya 1st round opponent be 1st round byes wit opponents led by

Antawn, Jrue, Kemba, Drummond, Monta, Oladipo

VS

Ja, Booker, Jokic, Ant

Ironically, Lights have been too bright in Hollywood
 

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1 Finals run in 7 seasons out West that was a global pandemic and relocation to Disneyworld

0 1st round Ls in Least 13 playoff rounds in Least
3 1st round Ls in 5 playoff runs out West

I guess shyt different when ya 1st round opponent be 1st round byes wit opponents led by

Antawn, Jrue, Kemba, Drummond, Monta, Oladipo

VS

Ja, Booker, Jokic, Ant
You do this weak shyt every year 🤣

shyt is different when you were 35 in your 16th year when you became a Laker. Had he played his first 15 years out West and this was the results, you still wouldn't ne this critical, because you'd say a young guy who won a title 1 year out of 7 in a loaded conference got over the hump...

How about going at the guys actually Un their athletic primes. Jokic is 10 years deep in the West, just one title and one Finals appearance. Luka is 7 years deep in The West, 0 titles, 1 Finals appearance. Ant is in Year 5 so it's time for him to start cashing in on some Finals appearances soon. Same for Shai, 7 years deep, no Finals appearances. Booker, 10 years in, 1 Finals run, no championship...

We can go on and on. LeBron at an advanced age won a title here. If he was these guys' age he'd have a higher success rate than all of em...

The Lakers are a franchise that has been mediocre for the better part of 15 years. They cycle thru coaches, make questionable roster decisions, and we're the losingest franchise in The League before Bron got here. He's been the only consistent bright spot for them for years, when he retires (and I hope it's this summer or next year), there's nothing this organization has done in recent memory to instill confidence they will be back to consistent contention...
 

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he was 34 when he came to LA.
....entering his age 35 season, his 16th season. So why are we acting like The West got Year 6, age 25 LeBron? That LeBron would've had his way with the competition the same way he had it in The East...

Mf's love seeing him lose but it's annoying watching nikkas act like this is apex Bron while ignoring how unsuccessful the guys actually in their athletic primes have been...
 

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....entering his age 35 season, his 16th season. So why are we acting like The West got Year 6, age 25 LeBron? That LeBron would've had his way with the competition the same way he had it in The East...

Mf's love seeing him lose but it's annoying watching nikkas act like this is apex Bron while ignoring how unsuccessful the guys actually in their athletic primes have been...
Year 6 Bron ain’t win shyt in the east either, he had to form a super team, remember good
 

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Can’t use that old excuse, nobody forcing him to hang on. He thinks that he can still bang with the yn
I can use the old excuse because the version of Bron The West has been competing against, ain't the perennial MVP candidate of his youth. You know it, I know it, we all know it, so the age and tread on the tires matters...

I do agree that he keeps hanging on and I've been vocal for YEARS now that he's doing himself a disservice. There's nothing left to prove, he's done everything you can do in the sport. He still has bursts of greatness but he's CLEARLY a declining player year over year. I've wanted him to retire for awhile. I hope he announces it soon, but I think he wants the record for longest career, which will be next year, Year 23. So before next season begins, I hope he announces that this is it...

Be comfortable with who you are and your place in history and let it fukking go. Let these young guys have free reign...
 
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