Well Holmes would be expendable if they were to trade for Gobert. I just don’t think the Kings are in need of a big like Gobert right now. Sixers gonna need to find another off guard to trade for.
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Holmes is the only 5 on their roster, they were below average on defense and terrible on the boards I think they desperately need a big who can do those two things, and he'd be a great PnR partner for Fox. They didn't meet expectations and desperately want to make the playoffs, I think this gets them there.Well Holmes would be expendable if they were to trade for Gobert. I just don’t think the Kings are in need of a big like Gobert right now. Sixers gonna need to find another off guard to trade for.
At this point with picks and maybe Holmes going to Utah, do you think they make the deal on their end?
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LoL@trade Horford
Nobody is gonna take that contract
Nobody is gonna take that contract
Ard since yall aint fukk with my last trade idea I got a new one
Sixers get: Mike Conley
Utah gets: Jrue Holiday, Al Horford, TJ Leaf
Indiana gets: Rudy Gobert
New Orleans gets: Myles Turner
We flip Horford for Conley and get an expiring contract instead of Al's longterm deal making Conley possibly moveable at the deadline, Conley is an above average shooter throughout his career who loves to run PnR - something we need. He can run full-time PG with Ben on the bench, and share duties with Ben on the floor which would help a lot when things slow down in the half-court. He didn't have a great year in Utah, but I think a lot of that could be due to fit. It's a net-upgrade from Horford - even if it's not a dream deal, it's a positive one and I think a realistic return.
Utah gets better ultimately, Horford is still a good center and do a variety of things for the Jazz. If you have to move Gobert, getting Horford is a nice swap. Then they make a huge upgrade from Conley to Holiday making a scary Holiday/Mitchell backcorut. TJ Leaf doesn't play at all for Indiana, he's thrown in to make salaries work. Could also be TJ McConnell if you think he's easier for Indi to trade. Utah also no longer has to worry about paying Gobert a supermax he doesn't deserve.
Indiana upgrades at the 5 from Myles Turner to Rudy Gobert. Gobert doesn't shoot the 3 like Turner, but he's a better defender and twice the rebounder. Really makes them a scary team in the East.
New Orleans gets the perfect fit for their roster in Turner, a 24 y/o Center on a good contract who is a low usg% great rim protector and can shoot the 3 allowing for a 5-out offense next to Zion. Few guys in the league can do this for them. New Orleans would have their PG, SF, PF, and C for the next decade, while also opening up more cap space. Holiday isn't a perfect fit on the roster, and he doesn't fit the timeline.
Sixers get: Mike Conley
Utah gets: Jrue Holiday, Al Horford, TJ Leaf
Indiana gets: Rudy Gobert
New Orleans gets: Myles Turner
We flip Horford for Conley and get an expiring contract instead of Al's longterm deal making Conley possibly moveable at the deadline, Conley is an above average shooter throughout his career who loves to run PnR - something we need. He can run full-time PG with Ben on the bench, and share duties with Ben on the floor which would help a lot when things slow down in the half-court. He didn't have a great year in Utah, but I think a lot of that could be due to fit. It's a net-upgrade from Horford - even if it's not a dream deal, it's a positive one and I think a realistic return.
Utah gets better ultimately, Horford is still a good center and do a variety of things for the Jazz. If you have to move Gobert, getting Horford is a nice swap. Then they make a huge upgrade from Conley to Holiday making a scary Holiday/Mitchell backcorut. TJ Leaf doesn't play at all for Indiana, he's thrown in to make salaries work. Could also be TJ McConnell if you think he's easier for Indi to trade. Utah also no longer has to worry about paying Gobert a supermax he doesn't deserve.
Indiana upgrades at the 5 from Myles Turner to Rudy Gobert. Gobert doesn't shoot the 3 like Turner, but he's a better defender and twice the rebounder. Really makes them a scary team in the East.
New Orleans gets the perfect fit for their roster in Turner, a 24 y/o Center on a good contract who is a low usg% great rim protector and can shoot the 3 allowing for a 5-out offense next to Zion. Few guys in the league can do this for them. New Orleans would have their PG, SF, PF, and C for the next decade, while also opening up more cap space. Holiday isn't a perfect fit on the roster, and he doesn't fit the timeline.
I wouldn't wanna take on that Conley contract even if it's only temporary, Would rather take my chances with ShakeWe won't have cap space this summer anyway, and Conley's contract expires whereas we're paying Horford a ton for the next three years. In terms of contracts, I think you easily make this deal.
Shake's really a playmaking SG more than he's a PG
I would still like to see a lineup like this before we make any major moves
PG: Shake/ Burks
SG: Richardson/ Korkmaz / GR3
SF: Tobias/ Thybulle / GR3
PF: Simmons/ Scott
C: Embiid/ Horford
I think when everybody got hurt towards the end of the season it allowed Brown to see Shake at the PG role and how much having a scorer on the ball can help the offense. We were on the verge of them moving Simmons to PF to work more as a screener while Shake was going to be the secondary ball handler/scoring off guard when Simmons had the ball.
It would at least force Ben out of the PG spot so I can get with that
All I'm saying is that it seems like Jazz fans feel about Conley the same way we feel about Horford as far as us both having high hopes for them but they failed to meet expectations based on whatever issue it may have been (spacing, fit, contract). I just don't think the grass is that much greener on the other side but that's my opinion
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Regardless of them living up to expectations, we're committed to Conley for much less time than Horford which is a plus, even if they're net-neutral on the court for us. Conley's strengths help us and his weaknesses can be covered up. He doesn't really hurt us at all, and can make us better. Horford's strengths are somewhat redundant, and his weakness compound issues we already have. He actually does hurt us, and barely providesIt would at least force Ben out of the PG spot so I can get with that
All I'm saying is that it seems like Jazz fans feel about Conley the same way we feel about Horford as far as us both having high hopes for them but they failed to meet expectations based on whatever issue it may have been (spacing, fit, contract). I just don't the grass is that much greener on the other side but that's my opinion
That’s all they been talking about on 97.5 all week (that and the same Eagles crap about the draft)."the shot"
Was one year ago a couple days ago...
I avoided Sports Media for two weeks
I still can't bring myself to watch highlights from that game
I don’t want to keep reliving that. It’s like reliving a break up or a pet dying over and over again 
I’ve trying to forget it since the shot went in 
If we're gonna get anywhere in the playoffs, it's with Ben at the 4 and Shake running point or being a primary ballhandler.
