But if Bron wins the chip this year

[Jesus Is Lord]

I think the narrative has changed already & they haven't even played a game yet in the finals.

Lebron is playing with house money which is why I believe they have a great chance of winning. You're already seeing debates on Mike & Mike, articles are already being written, & old players are coming out saying Lebron is better than Jordan. If they were to beat the warriors then the prisoners of the moment society that we live in will already put him above jordan. If they lose, Lebron's fans will say no love, injured kyrie, etc & that's the truth and he will be off the hook.

Being unbiased and not throwing shade on anyone, I don't understand why so many people are quick to put lebron on the pedestal of Jordan when I don't even think he's at the level of a prime kobe yet. Him leading the '15 cavs to the finals is no different than leading that 07 team but I think they have a better chance of beating the warriors versus that 07 spurs team.

To me it's no different when kobe won his 4th & 5th title, the same debates were going on & they were much more contested considering there are so many similarities in their game. Even after his 5th ring, kobe said & continues to say "I gotta get 6, I gotta catch mike". Lebron currently has two & will have to get a few more before the comparisons are valid.

Dope post. Just goes to show that the media still controls the minds of even then smartest people. Personally, I can't stand the Jordan 6 rings marker especially when there's HOF legends with 6 rings or better. And yes, Lebron isn't on Jordan's level of winning yet and I don't think he has to be in order to be a better player, unless the narrative of being the GOAT changes again.

 

[Malta]

The story would be pretty big given his return to Cleveland and how long it's been since they won a title.


shyt would be like a Disney movie.

 

[Goat poster]

Jordan spent most of his time losing in the first and second round? In 12 full seasons with the bulls, he lost once in the second round and 3 times in the first round. That's 4 exits in the first 2 rounds. Lebron's lost 3 times in the second round and didn't even make the playoffs in his first 2 seasons. So that's 5 losses/no shows in the first 2 rounds, so it looks like bron spent "most of his time" losing/not appearing in the first 2 rounds more than Jordan

Jordan in 12 full seasons as a Bull: 6 rings, 2 ECF exits, 1 Semi-Conference exit, 3 1st Round exits
Lebron in 12 seasons: 2 rings, 3 Finals losses, 1 ECF exits, 3 semi-conference exits, 2 no shows

33% of your career losing in the first 2 rounds is not "most of the time". If that's most of the time, what's 42% of a career spent losing/not appearing in the first 2 rounds?

You somhow fail to mention that Jordan made the playoffs his rookie year even though he had a LOSING RECORD somthing LeBron never got the benifiet from by the time he got to the NBA

 

[Kaypain]

@Ed MOTHEREFFING G will be suicide watch

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Oh okay, I didn't know where you were coming from, this thoroughly explains your stance, lol!

Agreed and this is part of what I was saying. The other part was the "getting to the finals" vs. "winning the finals", is that narrative changing to favor Lebron's losing record in the finals? Are the media and Bron stans changing their tunes to fit the greatest player of today, because he led the half-assed Cavs to the finals, again? @OG_StankBrefs @god shamgod Give me Yall unbiased take on this.

I don't think da narratives are presently changin nor will dey change...because dem shyts been pretty much locked into place once Klove got hurt...and you could eam say when JR got suspended because folks were ruling da Cavs out against da Bulls at dat point. Dey managed to win and then Kyrie got hurt...and then folks ruled em out against da Hawks up until afta game 2.

nikkas can sit hea n say well dat East is weak, but let's keep it funky...dem same peoples were dat same ones claimin da Bulls & Hawks were gonna hand out dat work. Mufukkas only seem to use dat narrative when it comes to Bron...especially when he pulls dat Mayweather on em. shyt is fukkin lame imo.

You gotta first year team, a rookie head coach, young team wit no playoff experience, major players either out wit injuries or playin wittem, and a nikka who has played more intense/grueling basketball in da last 5 years than any otha current player in da fukkin league..and dey still managed to get to da Finals. Some place da Cavs ain't been in almost decade.

So wit all dat said of course da narrative of success in just "gettin to da Finals" is prolly gon get loaded in da chamber if dey lose. Da Warriors are da favorites to win and for legit reasons. But if Bron & da Cavs manage to win da chip, bof of those narratives you talkin bout are bof gonna be presented as part of his legacy instead of just dat one.


Just how shyt is playin out, breh. Mah tune has neva changed. I want him & da Cavs to win but I won't be nowhere near as disappointed if dey should lose for those variables listed. 100

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

You somhow fail to mention that Jordan made the playoffs his rookie year even though he had a LOSING RECORD somthing LeBron never got the benifiet from by the time he got to the NBA

What? Lebron's rookie year the 8th place celtics had a 36-46 record and made the playoff's, while lebron missed out with a 35-47 record in 9th place. So, how did he never get that benefit?

 

[dtownreppin214]

can't wait.

 

[homiedontplaydat]

nikkas love forgetting he got JR and Shump

I'm saying though. This Cavs team is NOT THAT BAD. Love ain't really needed, I'll give them Kyrie being hurt but other than that there is a solid core in Cleveland right now. They're not better that GS but they are clearly the mostly talented team in this sorry ass version of the East of 2015

 

[TheSpook]

It's goddamnned true. If LeBron finishes his career 6/9 you got phaggots on here who'll be saying he's no Jordan because Jordan went 6 for 6. When in reality, that means Bron made it all the way to the big stage 9 times in his career while Jordan only got there 6, and otherwise, as just about anyone knows, was spending most of his time losing in the first and second round.

It's also worth noting that Kobe, Duncan, Kareem, Hakeem, virtually every other great--all those cats LOST in the Finals but the ONLY dude who ever seems to get his losses slammed in his face is Bron. shyt Magic Johnson lost like FOUR times.

Lebron wouldnt beat the pistons with any team he had. They were Spurs with attitude. Context young stan

 

[Goat poster]

What? Lebron's rookie year the 8th place celtics had a 36-46 record and made the playoff's, while lebron missed out with a 35-47 record in 9th place. So, how did he never get that benefit?

Nikka Jordan's bulls were 38-44 and STILL wasn't the 8th seed in the east, they were 7th.
People want to talk about the East being weak NOW.

In his second year the Bulls were ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS TO EVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. They were 30-52

Y'all Nikkas want to talk about weak conferences and asterisk. LOL

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Hawks with the 60 wins ever

Beating them shouldn't even be listed as an accomplishment

You can see that team wasn't built for the post season.


Now the Warriors have surprised me.I thought they'd lose to either the Grizz or the Spurs going into the playoffs.

Was shocked how they handled the Grizz.

That being said, they're good, but I'm not sure they're better than the '11 Mavs, '14 Spurs, or even the '13 Thunder.

I wouldn't be surprised nor awed if Bron & the Cavs beat em.

I've noticed a lot of Bron fans going with the David vs Goliath approach....If the Cavs(David) win, they'll say Bron did the "impossible", and proclaim him the undisputed goat.

I got the pictures I seen ya

 

[Jplaya2023]

Warriors in 5

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

Nikka Jordan's bulls were 38-44 and STILL wasn't the 8th seed in the east, they were 7th.
People want to talk about the East being weak NOW.

In his second year the Bulls were ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS TO EVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. They were 30-52

Y'all Nikkas want to talk about weak conferences and asterisk. LOL

So, it went from "bron never had the benefit of being able to make the playoffs with a losing record" (which he did) to "Yea but, Jordan's bulls were 7th and not 8th and made the playoffs".

The 8th place team in jordan's rookie season had the same record as the 8th place team in lebron's rookie season: 36-46. Bulls were 7th place with a 38-44 record. The knicks were 7th place with a 39-43 record in lebron's rookie season. The top 3 teams during lebron's rookie season finished with 61, 54 and 47 wins. For Jordan it was 63, 59, and 58.

It's easy to go back and forth with someone if the point you're going back to changes from the one that started the conversation. The conversation will never end if it goes that way. You were proven wrong, now want to start another point about placings. Don't talk out your ass or repeat something you heard someone else say. That way you won't have to scramble to change topics when proven wrong.

 

[Originalgangsta317]

If Bron wins the ship,he top 3 player of all time unquestioned