Bx. Principal barred an English teacher from delving into black-history lessons

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Explain, because I think i know where you are going with this, but want to make sure before I reply back with what I planned on posting

'White people' are a class.​

 

[truth2you]

'White people' are a class.​

Ok, I knew that, but I don't understand what that has to do with some foreigners, including those who are black, thinking they are better then black americans, and downplay a lot of what we do including our history?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Ok, I knew that, but I don't understand what that has to do with some foreigners, including those who are black, thinking they are better then black americans, and downplay a lot of what we do including our history?

ALL 'foreigners' are subjected to the 'sea change' as the Irish were.

'Black' is a class as well.​

 

[truth2you]

ALL 'foreigners' are subjected to the 'sea change' as the Irish were.

'Black' is a class as well.​

I get that if they are white, or can pass, but I don't understand how can another black person, or one who is either close to black or native, will do the same thing?

There children eventually go through the same thing as black americans, and even if they just stay to themselves, chances are they will go through the same thing, as now they will bee seen as competition, and are weak being that they will be low in numbers. When you look at west indian communities, they have the same issues as black american communities it just looks nice depending on the area you are speaking on, some are just as bad as black american ghettos. I don't see how they can get something from disassociating with black americans? Latins have the same issues.

The same for all black foreigners who are here in the millions, which there aren't any besides west indians, maybe Africans are but their numbers are much lower

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I get that if they are white, or can pass, but I don't understand how can another black person, or one who is either close to black or native, will do the same thing?

They don't see us as an ethnic group. They see us as a 'class' of people.

That's why so often you'll hear them tell you they are most definitely NOT Black.​

 

[truth2you]

They don't see us as an ethnic group. They see us as a 'class' of people.

That's why so often you'll hear them tell you they are most definitely NOT Black.​

No doubt, but does that mean they are just stupid?

If you know you are black, or near it, and everyone around is in poverty, or they just have good jobs with ceilings, deal with police brutality, and racism, why would they detach from the largest group that can help them achieve their goals? I understand keeping your heritage, but seeing us in a negative view, and not wanting your kids to date us, BUT see nothing wrong with them dating whites? Something is wrong there, they are actually hurting themselves in the long run.

That's a rhetorical question, because I know its deeper then class. Blacks, and browns, are lost when it comes to white supremacy. I will keep using "white supremacy" because regardless of seeing white as class or a race, that group still has ways of keeping both groups down from attaining wealth. We are seeing President Trump about to rip us a new a$$hole, after calling the places these people are from, "shytholes", yet I still hear the nonsense from them, not all but too many.

This makes me ask will we ever wake up?

This guy breaks down how he thinks the movie "black panther" will actually make this connection that needs to be done, worse. His background is African, but he was raised here, I think what he says has some truth

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No doubt, but does that mean they are just stupid?

No. It means 'White Supremacy' works on a global basis.

Mexicans and Chinese were considered 'White' at one time.​

 

[truth2you]

No. It means 'White Supremacy' works on a global basis.

Mexicans and Chinese were considered 'White' at one time.​

True, but I'm not talking about them, for the most part, I'm talking about people who live with us, and deal with us. Chinese stay to themselves, and Mexicans are white unless you are talking about the ones who are not mestizo.

I agree white supremacy works on a global scale, but I don't understand why would you as one who doesn't get a benefit from it WITHOUT reaching a ceiling, will allow it to flourish, and not some way work with those who have a larger huge number then you. This is exactly what white foreigners did when they came here, and weren't considered white. You showed it with the book you linked!

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I agree white supremacy works on a global scale, but I don't understand why would you as one who doesn't get a benefit from it WITHOUT reaching a ceiling, will allow it to flourish, and not some way work with those who have a larger huge number then you.

Read the book I linked earlier. It explains the benefits of the 'ruling class'. The ones who live with us and around us are the ones most susceptible to want those benefits by observing how we are treated.​

 

[truth2you]

Read the book I linked earlier. It explains the benefits of the 'ruling class'. The ones who live with us and around us are the ones most susceptible to want those benefits by observing how we are treated.​

Man, i don't think you are reading my post besides the first few lines

Go read my last post, and see why what you wrote doesn't makes sense when it comes to black, and brown, people. That theory only works on whites or those who have family who can be traced back to Europe.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Go read my last post, and see why what you wrote doesn't makes sense when it comes to black, and brown, people. That theory only works on whites or those who have family who can be traced back to Europe.

If you read the books I posted, you'd see it applies to ALL and 'Whites' don't really exist.

They are a political fiction.​

 

[boskey]

She’s Italian not Hispanic lol. Y’all are funny

So ready for that fight with latinos that they letting cacs off the hook

 

[truth2you]

If you read the books I posted, you'd see it applies to ALL and 'Whites' don't really exist.

They are a political fiction.​

Ok, I can't agree with that. There is no way you really believe "whites" are political fiction in 2018, and you're black? I would love for you to prove how white is a political party, but all I ask is you to use black foreigners or latins(not white latins) as an example?

Yes, it started out as a theory, but it is reality now, you know this because of how people who aren't considered white are treated, and these people look nothing like the people we call white, so I don't understand how you can just say its a political fiction.

If that theory applied to ALL, why are blacks suffering, and only a few tokens get access to things whites got easily, and its with a ceiling? If what you are saying is true, blacks/latins, wouldn't have a huge part of the prison industry, police brutality, and just plain discrimination.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Ok, I can't agree with that. There is no way you really believe "whites" are political fiction in 2018, and you're black? I would love for you to prove how white is a political party, but all I ask is you to use black foreigners or latins(not white latins) as an example?

I didn't say they were a 'political party'. I said they were a 'political fiction'. They were 'made up' for political purposes to ensure their power.

There is no such thing as 'Black foreigners'. You're conflating nationality with 'race'. Most people do, but there's no science that supports the idea of 'race' other than pseudo-science. Latins and other foreigners of African descent don't consider themselves Black for that reason as well as the 'class distinction' I referred to earlier. That distinction is why they become complicit in the systemic oppression of Americans of African descent just like the Irish did in the 19th Century.

Read the books I posted earlier.​

 

[truth2you]

I didn't say they were a 'political party'. I said they were a 'political fiction'. They were 'made up' for political purposes to ensure their power.

There is no such thing as 'Black foreigners'. You're conflating nationality with 'race'. Most people do, but there's no science that supports the idea of 'race' other than pseudo-science. Latins and other foreigners of African descent don't consider themselves Black for that reason as well as the 'class distinction' I referred to earlier. That distinction is why they become complicit in the systemic oppression of Americans of African descent just like the Irish did in the 19th Century.

Read the books I posted earlier.​

I think you are just making up stuff to back your claims, because you can clearly see it was a mistake when I wrote "political party" because right before that I wrote "political fiction". A person who is really debating to come to a conclusion, not be right, would have asked me what I meant. We know whites aren't a political party, because we don't see one.

Also, I know some Africans and they do consider themselves black, are you living in a closet?

They just don't consider themselves black american. When a lot of all black foreigners say "black" they mean black american, but once you explain, most say they are black meaning their race. you can argue that the idea of race is psuedo science, but the fact is people all over the world follow it. I think you are married to a non black person, because you are making arguments they tend to make, and ignore the reality of how the world works.

I think you have been reading too much, and not seeing what is the reality around you, my man. No disrespect!