cac bill simmons at it again

[Professor Emeritus]

Luka is not stat padding.

look at this video and tell me how many open shots Westbrook passed on to get a triple double. But I’ll let you get your daps.

Luka isn't stat padding on assists. But he's stat padding the fukk out of his rebounds. Watch how often he'll leave his defensive responsibility before the play is over, completely ignore boxing out, and instead stand in front of his own big men hoping to poach a free rebound away from them. Exact same shyt Westbrook used to do (Kevin Love would do it too when he was on Minny) and one of the reasons all three of them were considered lazy defenders.

To the people saying Russ was simply stat padding the whole time, can you post the team record when he records a triple double?

You're looking at it ass-backwards. If the other team is making its shots, you don't get rebounds. If your teammates are missing their shots, you don't get assists. Russ was trying to stat-pad every damn game, but he only SUCCEEDED in the games where the other team played bad and his teammates played well, You're talking like the triple-doubles caused his teammates to play winning basketball when it was the opposite, Russ played the same way most games but when his teammates played winning basketball (elite defense and making shots) it was easier for him to stat pad that triple-double.

Flip it the other way. If you really think that Westbrook's triple-doubles are the reason his team won games, then why did they lose so many games those years? Why did Westbrook fall short of a triple-double in all those losses if he knew that getting a triple-double would lead to a win? Was he just not trying as hard those games or was it something else?

 

[IGSaint12]

I don't know why you're singling out Bill Simmons when many people on this forum trashed Westbrook's triple double year. The amount of posts that would shrug it off or said it wasn't impactful on this forum was huge.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

If it’s so easy to stat pad, a lot more players would be doing it. Just admit y’all hate Russ and be done with it

 

[Morethan1]

Luka is an early Mvp candidate in my eyes. But he does pat his rebounding, there's been times where he goes for the rebound and Kristaps clearly just moves out of the way or throws his hands up. But his triple doubles are more genuine than Westbrook Okc was. That shyt was blatant

 

[DonRe]

He's not a CAC
He's basically a turk

He sounds like a new York middle eastern cab driver and he looks like memet okurs lost son

Didnt know. Never cared to research his origin. Went with the take that hes a euro player these analyst milk themselves for.

 

[Raquinotj]

Luka isn't stat padding on assists. But he's stat padding the fukk out of his rebounds. Watch how often he'll leave his defensive responsibility before the play is over, completely ignore boxing out, and instead stand in front of his own big men hoping to poach a free rebound away from them. Exact same shyt Westbrook used to do (Kevin Love would do it too when he was on Minny) and one of the reasons all three of them were considered lazy defenders.






You're looking at it ass-backwards. If the other team is making its shots, you don't get rebounds. If your teammates are missing their shots, you don't get assists. Russ was trying to stat-pad every damn game, but he only SUCCEEDED in the games where the other team played bad and his teammates played well, You're talking like the triple-doubles caused his teammates to play winning basketball when it was the opposite, Russ played the same way most games but when his teammates played winning basketball (elite defense and making shots) it was easier for him to stat pad that triple-double.

Flip it the other way. If you really think that Westbrook's triple-doubles are the reason his team won games, then why did they lose so many games those years? Why did Westbrook fall short of a triple-double in all those losses if he knew that getting a triple-double would lead to a win? Was he just not trying as hard those games or was it something else?

Russ also statpads rebounds. He literally fights his own teammates for rebounds. And as far a points go, he’ll jack up 30 contested shots a night to get over the 10 point mark.

 

[baker928]

Russ also statpads rebounds. He literally fights his own teammates for rebounds. And as far a points go, he’ll jack up 30 contested shots a night to get over the 10 point mark.

Its crazy how Westbrook seems to be the only person who gets criticized for statpadding, when basically all the stars do it.

 

[KingJay]

Luka isn't stat padding on assists. But he's stat padding the fukk out of his rebounds. Watch how often he'll leave his defensive responsibility before the play is over, completely ignore boxing out, and instead stand in front of his own big men hoping to poach a free rebound away from them. Exact same shyt Westbrook used to do (Kevin Love would do it too when he was on Minny) and one of the reasons all three of them were considered lazy defenders.






You're looking at it ass-backwards. If the other team is making its shots, you don't get rebounds. If your teammates are missing their shots, you don't get assists. Russ was trying to stat-pad every damn game, but he only SUCCEEDED in the games where the other team played bad and his teammates played well, You're talking like the triple-doubles caused his teammates to play winning basketball when it was the opposite, Russ played the same way most games but when his teammates played winning basketball (elite defense and making shots) it was easier for him to stat pad that triple-double.

Flip it the other way. If you really think that Westbrook's triple-doubles are the reason his team won games, then why did they lose so many games those years? Why did Westbrook fall short of a triple-double in all those losses if he knew that getting a triple-double would lead to a win? Was he just not trying as hard those games or was it something else?

Its crazy how Westbrook seems to be the only person who gets criticized for statpadding, when basically all the stars do it.

You have to also consider that the Mavs don't have rebounders on their roster, and that despite that they're still 7th in the league on the glass. It's not quite like Russ poaching from a Steven Adams, guys like KP, Powell, and Kleber weren't rebounders in the first place, and for what it's worth KP is having a career year on the glass so far. Not saying he isn't sagging off his man to grab extra boards, but I don't think it's as bad as Russ was

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Russ also statpads rebounds. He literally fights his own teammates for rebounds. And as far a points go, he’ll jack up 30 contested shots a night to get over the 10 point mark.

I mean, "not as bad as literally the worst rebound-padder in the history of the game" is a pretty low standard. Russ had the best rebounding big men in the game devoted to keeping their hands off of boards so he could get them, and was sometimes 20+ feet off of his defensive responsibility just so he could be ready for the board. He did that in crunch time in a PLAYOFF game.

Bev is a career 38% 3pt shooter who had burned Westbrook for 21 points including 4-6 threes in Game 1 and was on his way to 15 points including 2-4 threes here in Game 2. With just 2 minutes left in the game, down 2 points, Westbrook IGNORES BEVERLEY FOR THE ENTIRE POSSESSION because he's so concerned with waiting for the rebound. He's not even facing his man, he's not doubling or helping off-ball either, he's solely watching the basket waiting for the board.

You have to also consider that the Mavs don't have rebounders on their roster, and that despite that they're still 7th in the league on the glass. It's not quite like Russ poaching from a Steven Adams, guys like KP, Powell, and Kleber weren't rebounders in the first place, and for what it's worth KP is having a career year on the glass so far. Not saying he isn't sagging off his man to grab extra boards, but I don't think it's as bad as Russ was

But just because Westbrook was literally the worst ever doesn't mean that Doncic isn't doing it too. If you look at that video I posted above nearly every single one of those rebounds was destined for one of his teammates if he hadn't poached it. Powell is a solid rebounder (averaged 5.6 in just 21 minutes/game before Doncic got there) but his defensive rebounding rate has fallen from 6.7 per 36 minutes in 2018 to just 3.9 per 36 minutes this season. Since he's a decent offensive rebounder (2.7 per 36) he's at least within shooting range of repeating Adams as the 2nd big ever to get more offensive boards than defensive, and for the exact same reason.

 

[OG Talk]

I love this kids game and think what he’s doing before he can even legally buy a beer is impressive.

But Blog Boys like Simmons told us high usage rates were a negative and triple doubles were a meaningless stat.

But now it’s different

 

[arXiv]

Luka is not stat padding.

look at this video and tell me how many open shots Westbrook passed on to get a triple double. But I’ll let you get your daps.

Damn. That shyt is BLATANT

 

[David_TheMan]

A lot of white posters exposing themselvea in this thread.

A lot of everyone is racist talk going on in here.

 

[Originalman]

Didnt know. Never cared to research his origin. Went with the take that hes a euro player these analyst milk themselves for.

Those people of fomer Yugoslavia have that look....like Vlade Divac and Petrovic.

Also turkey to slovenia is like a over 18 hour trip by car. Its like saying Texas and California are about the same.

Also with slovenia being fomer Russia. Yeah them folks are considered white people. Unless they got some Mongolian in them like folks Kazakhstan they considered white in that area (from an american viewpoint).

 

[WesCrook]

NBA All-Star Mehmet Okur.

He missed out on some of that Cardi B exposure.

Still one of the best NBA names ever

 

[gtj1982]

He's not a CAC
He's basically a turk

He sounds like a new York middle eastern cab driver and he looks like memet okurs lost son

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Those are two white boys

Turkish people are predominantly white. What are you on about