Cam'Ron And Dame ...why did they not start up or continue the ROC after Jay left?

[Long Live The Kane]

I believe Dame might've spoke on that back then...think it was along the lines of "Cam is his own boss...Dipset is like it's own Rocafella, it doesn't make sense for him to be under me now"...Cam had his various label situations for Dipset (Koch, Warner) already

 

[ajnapoleon]

I never got that either,nikka mad at Jay for leavin Dame but he wasn't in a rush to partner with Dame either,or anybody else for that matter

I was wanting for them to link up....Dam and Cam with the dipset would have been comedy and fukery....with good music

 

[ajnapoleon]

I believe Dame might've spoke on that back then...think it was along the lines of "Cam is his own boss...Dipset is like it's own Rocafella, it doesn't make sense for him to be under me now"...Cam had his various label situations for Dipset (Koch, Warner) already

But he wanted jay to be under him after all that time?

 

[Long Live The Kane]

But he wanted jay to be under him after all that time?

They, Jay and Dame (and biggs), were partners, totally different dynamic

I'm prolly bout to neg you

 

[Master Teacher]

dame should've just gave Jay the masters to Reasonable Doubt and kept the Rocafella brand
You don't throw away a brand thats already built up and proving
if I brought Burger King, I would not change the name of it to Hamburger Monarch
nobody knew what Dame Dash Music Group was, the name was stupid and too long
but if he would've kept the Rocafella name, artist would've been attracted to it because of the brand history
and he would still have juice off the strength of the brand

 

[ajnapoleon]

They, Jay and Dame (and biggs), were partners, totally different dynamic

I'm prolly bout to neg you

Nah Dame made it seem that jay was his artist ....remember that rant in the def jam office calling jay "His" artist?

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Nah Dame made it seem that jay was his artist ....remember that rant in the def jam office calling jay "His" artist?

negged

 

[SpacelySprockets]

I'm prolly bout to neg you

negged

:goatlaff:

 

[BreezyH]

Def Jam or Universal bought the brand. I think the ‘beef’ [with us and Jay-Z] was that Jay made it clear he didn’t want me or Biggs to be a part of it. That’s really where it was at. Now that he doesn’t work for Def Jam anymore, he doesn’t have the right to use the name. So there’s no reason for us not to use it. It’s there, and it’s a brand that’s not being used. So I was like, ‘I’ll take it.’ It always meant something to me. - Dame

 

[LA Fisher]

Yall notice wayne got super hot when he started fukkin with dipset
I bet Santana gotta jump through hoops just to get wayne on the phone now

 

[Black Gatsby]

Not a Tom Gist reference...

I swear I thought I was the only person in the world who used to listen to his shyt

Dude was ridiculously nice





Can't believe I am going to say this...but he got Cam on this one...

It's been a strange year
Lot of Pain here
Gist still carry the gift like a reindeer

Gist has a CLAZY song with A Mafia, Show and Tell. That shyt was fire never gets mentioned both of them were nice

 

[LA Fisher]

I bought an oz of Haze off A-Mafia one time, no lie.

He's actually a really nice well mannered person

 

[NvrCMyNut]

because rocafella was jay z.

 

[DontEemTry]

It's interesting how a lot of you nikkas talk out both sides of your mouth.

First, we got nikkas cosigning Dame when he sneak dissin Jay-Z by sayin these rap dudes ain't bosses coz they don't own they own shyt. Then in the same breath you nikkas talkin bout he blackballed nikka, if you supposed to be a boss like that you don't need anybody's approval for shyt.

Face it, Dame knew how much the RD masters meant to Jay-Z so he used that to try and make that nikka sick as fukk. But the whole shyt backfired horribly. As for Cam, that's just how Harlem nikkas are. You can't trust em for real. I saw this one interview a while back where Dame said he hadn't spoken to Cam in about a year at that point. Think about that for a minute.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Thats what im saying why they never took that group and stared something up

You forget they both had problems.

Dame was basically black balled. You remember how he would scream on def jam, Kevin liles, even rza like they was some kids. Everyone put up with it cause they needed jay. Once jay was gone, nobody needed to or wanted to fukk with dame. He started a label. Grand opening, grand closing

At the same time, cam and jimmy had the same thing. Jimmy just blew with ballin and cam just got shot. and then jim and juelz went on stage with 50, talked about kicking cam out of dip set, and split that whole group. They was on the same shyt, nikkas had to pick sides. And they still ain't really back together like they used to be

If you listen to jay and cam, that wanting to be famous and wanting to be the man, destroyed both camps