The Prince of All Saiyans
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'That follow the bible' it ain't a weekly series
Can anybody that follows the bible explain this?
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KinksandCoils
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I think it means and yes I maybe completely wrong but I think it means that. You should remain to be a respectable purpose in front of a person who is in a position of power as though Jesus was respectable to all because if you are a Christian you are representing one of Gods people and you don't want to make one of Gods people look bad.
Verbal Kint
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That's exactly what an explanation is. The word itself referred to a specific thing because that's what words do, they describe things. Those 'slaves' were not race based, lifelong 'servants'. It was a completely different economic and social system than what was used here during trans Atlantic slavery. If you're not going to be intelligent enough to understand that words, meanings and systems change over time don't ask for explanations.Claiming slavery was different isn't explaining the bible commanding people to obey their owners
Jack Trippa 3z company ho
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We are all slaves right now. We are debt slaves and you can't survive without being one. Our national debt is paid by us, except it grows at an exponentially faster rate than can be paid back. Perpetual debt slaves is what we are. And the best slaves are those that don't know they are slaves. Or else that bondage might be broke.
I take this to mean to love your enemy and know that God will take care of them for their atrocities. Or, you could be so hate filled because of them, that you actually become just like them.
One of the toughest things I learned to do was pray for those who have hurt me the worst in my life. It was for real hard to do because I truly had hate in my heart for a few people in my life. Once you can do that, you can transcend that hatred and no longer give that person the power to drive you to devilish tendencies. Anyone can do that, few want to do that though.
I take this to mean to love your enemy and know that God will take care of them for their atrocities. Or, you could be so hate filled because of them, that you actually become just like them.
One of the toughest things I learned to do was pray for those who have hurt me the worst in my life. It was for real hard to do because I truly had hate in my heart for a few people in my life. Once you can do that, you can transcend that hatred and no longer give that person the power to drive you to devilish tendencies. Anyone can do that, few want to do that though.
It's from the New Testament.
Verbal Kint
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Slavery was slavery.
Stop it.
You can't be that slow. I get everyone has agendas they like to push but you can't seriously believe that 'slavery' from the 1st Century and under Mosaic law where Jews were 'slaves' to other Jews is the same as the transatlantic slave trade where Europeans enslaved Africans? You can't say that while ignoring that the entire story of the Exodus is an admonishing and rejection of race based slavery/servitude. You can't be that dismissive saying 'slavery is slavery' then not have the nuts to do a little research to learn that the presence of the word 'slave' itself is simply a translation from terms that more directly meant 'servant' or 'bondservant'. You can't say 'slavery is slavery' while completely ignoring the fact that most of these Hebrew 'slaves' served for specific periods of time and for specific reasons (debt, crime, POW, etc). Saying 'slavery is slavery' is just as shortsighted as racists saying 'criminals are criminals' and treating the murderer the same as the dude that got 10 for an ounce of green
Do better
Back then, slavery was acceptable in the Roman Empire. Slaves were owned by their masters. But, the masters didn't treat their slaves like they were sub-humans, which is how the American Southern plantation owners treated their slaves. And we also have a picture of slavery in that Egyptians enslaved Israeli people during Moses' time and slave drivers treating slaves like garbage, which if you've read the story, Moses killed a slave master for being too tough on a fellow Israelite.
So in Roman times, you have people who are slaves to other people, and mainly, the slaves became slaves because they probably owned the other person money.
So, Christianity was a new faith and people who were slaves could go to church and people who were masters could go to church. This was a message to slaves and masters who became Christians. And, it's also a message to Christians in general, in that we are slaves to Christ, in that we do the will of God, not our own will. Our own will can be things like fulfilling our own earthly desires like materialism, greed and lust.
All that typing and you're still being willfully retarded.You can't be that slow. I get everyone has agendas they like to push but you can't seriously believe that 'slavery' from the 1st Century and under Mosaic law where Jews were 'slaves' to other Jews is the same as the transatlantic slave trade where Europeans enslaved Africans? You can't say that while ignoring that the entire story of the Exodus is an admonishing and rejection of race based slavery/servitude. You can't be that dismissive saying 'slavery is slavery' then not have the nuts to do a little research to learn that the presence of the word 'slave' itself is simply a translation from terms that more directly meant 'servant' or 'bondservant'. You can't say 'slavery is slavery' while completely ignoring the fact that most of these Hebrew 'slaves' served for specific periods of time and for specific reasons (debt, crime, POW, etc). Saying 'slavery is slavery' is just as shortsighted as racists saying 'criminals are criminals' and treating the murderer the same as the dude that got 10 for an ounce of green
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There's literally no level that exists where you could argue that ANY "type" of slavery, indentured servitude or whatever fukkin term you want to give it is even remotely an okay thing. AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. Even 2,000 years ago.
Stop caping for these biblical devils.
I made no comparison to trans Atlantic Slave trade or any other.
This is just your deflection from the obvious.
Under no circumstances is it okay, pious or godly to obey any kind of definition that one might give that even resembles "master".
Black_Panther_JS
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The Bible
You can't be that slow. I get everyone has agendas they like to push but you can't seriously believe that 'slavery' from the 1st Century and under Mosaic law where Jews were 'slaves' to other Jews is the same as the transatlantic slave trade where Europeans enslaved Africans? You can't say that while ignoring that the entire story of the Exodus is an admonishing and rejection of race based slavery/servitude. You can't be that dismissive saying 'slavery is slavery' then not have the nuts to do a little research to learn that the presence of the word 'slave' itself is simply a translation from terms that more directly meant 'servant' or 'bondservant'. You can't say 'slavery is slavery' while completely ignoring the fact that most of these Hebrew 'slaves' served for specific periods of time and for specific reasons (debt, crime, POW, etc). Saying 'slavery is slavery' is just as shortsighted as racists saying 'criminals are criminals' and treating the murderer the same as the dude that got 10 for an ounce of green
Do better
What I don't get though is why would a loving God allow man to have a system where he owned/"enslaved"/ or whatever other men...if the act itself is wrong?
Why would God allow an economic system in place in general where one man (if we are all equal) could essentially rule over another one? Why would God not only "be cool" with this, but why would the bible then tell the slave to serve his master as if it was God (putting God and Man on a similar plane in relation to the slave)?
Wouldn't it be a much more benevolent system to say "no man shall own another man, and no man should serve another man as he serves his Lord"
rather than saying
"hey if you end up in a situation where you are a slave to another human...serve him as if he was God and serve him with a smile"
Verbal Kint
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All that typing and you're still being willfully retarded.
There's literally no level that exists where you could argue that ANY "type" of slavery, indentured servitude or whatever fukkin term you want to give it is even remotely an okay thing. AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. Even 2,000 years ago.
Stop caping for these biblical devils.
I made no comparison to trans Atlantic Slave trade or any other.
This is just your deflection from the obvious.
Under no circumstances is it okay, pious or godly to obey any kind of definition that one might give that even resembles "master".
So you're arguing that in Hebrew society when a man agreed to work for another man for 4 years to pay off a debt it was morally wrong? Or when a man wanted to marry a man's daughter but had no money for the traditional dowry so he lived and worked in that man's household for a period of time it was wrong? You're essentially refusing to acknowledge that words mean different things in different societies which is simply incorrect. And you're again ignoring that the Bible itself speaks against permanent, race based slavery meaning this is clearly different since obviously if it was pro 'slavery' there would be no reason for the Exodus in the first place which at the time was the most important event in the history of the Hebrew people who were the majority audience of those scriptures. Context matters even if you want to ignore it homie
Verbal Kint
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God gave folks the rules. Doesn't mean they followed them. For instance, many 'slaves' were POWs. Most every war fought by the Jews in the Bible began with a warning from God to the other people to essentially bow down and when they didn't, they got stomped. Other 'slaves' were folks that owed money even though scripture tells folks to either not borrow or to be very careful when they do. They also outlawed 'usury' or loaning with interest. So to your point if God simply outlawed servanthood there would be other ways people would get their money back. Some societies simply maimed owers or threw them in jail. You're essentially asking why didn't God not only create a perfect system but also force people to abide by it which can only happen through the removal of people's free will. The whole 'well why doesn't a loving God do ....' line of questioning always ignores that people have the freedom to do what they want. Either you want that freedom to choose or you don't.
You're alive in the year 12 AD.
You're telling me you're okay obeying your masters?
You would be okay with that?
You'd be happy having to submit that way?
You wouldn't view your condition as subjugation and oppressive?
You would love your master?
