Can anyone actually identify good production these days?

[The_King_of_Everything]

Can't wait to hear the final version.

I really think this beat is really creative and feels like it could have been a theme for game of thrones.

 

[IVS]

Some of the people on the coli man Yall have no reading comprehension

I'm saying that beat is hard as hell. "When she's on she is ON"

Huh?! I wasn't disagreeing with you breh Have a chill pill. Maybe you need to check your comprehension skills

 

[Doobie Doo]

this is actually true but it sounded better

Not really. Now if we are talking about the whole song beats, concept, lyrics yeah but off beat alone, nah.

 

[noumena]

How is this not hard as hell. Beat is str8 fire. And Rodeo has some good production, so I dont get what the OP is talking about. People just be caught up on nostalgia, I enjoy a good amount of the new music because the production is actually dope. And when you listen thru headphones you hear all the nuance, dudes are putting out good stuff.

Huh?! I wasn't disagreeing with you breh Have a chill pill. Maybe you need to check your comprehension skills

I think my comprehension skills are fine breh

 

[Larry Lambo]

Love today's beats and love beats from the 90's too.

It's the lyricism that fell off.

 

[arel]

if travis scott was involved (or implicated by association) I know it's

 

[SirBiatch]

In answer to your question OP, only few can. Modern hip hop fans aren't interested in soul for the most part and certainly can't identify it. Look at what most on the Coli like: generic bullshyt, whether mainstream or underground.

Clams Casino from 2010-2011 had the most soul I've heard in a producer in a long ass time.



Also known as "Demons" for ASAP Rocky (Deflections in 3, 2, 1....)

Regarding Antidote, I actually like that beat. Is it addictive? Not really. memorable with a ton of soul? Nah.

Not even breh. I'm not on some real hip hop backpacker shyt. I love trap. Our generation also has a handful of producers that are making incredible music. I'm just sick of this "every single trap beat is fire sentiment". Clams is someone who avoided trap and made a sound that's truly ours.

leaf is CLASSIC

I was really hoping for Clams to influence more producers and see that sound take over, some of his beats are GOAT level to me.

This is why I laugh when Coli posters act like Live.Love.ASAP isn't special I'm like: "what planet are you on?" Live.Love.ASAP is the classic that this generation is always looking for, and have actually made.

There's stuff on there that people will always remember. The first time I heard the beat for "Leaf" I was like:

OP, it's an issue of: most people are generic and champion generic shyt. It's the reality of life. They're followers. They need leaders to tell them what's hot. Sometimes those leaders have good intentions in mind and will actually lead with great art. Other times, those leaders will have bad intentions and will pander with weak art to get that short-term bread. Is what it is

Sounds like you've got a good ear. Can you please put me on to some Honorable C Note and Tarentino stuff? Their best shyt. I know C Note did Ms, which was one of the better beats on ALLA.

Now THIS is tough

Stans heated because I don't dikkride.

If they waited a second they would have realized I gave the people who deserve it their props

sounds like the Skyfall beat, which Metro did a year back

 

[SirBiatch]

Hey I've been making music since the late 90s.

What have you made?

Production is better now. It kills me how formulamatic nikka's was in the 90s that a lot of you nikkas worship. Take a loop from a record, filter it for a baseline then throw a breakbeat behind it in the 90s then bring back the unfiltered loop for hooks and change ups.

Who cares? It's not about the method but the result. That so-called "formulaic" approach (which, lets be real, I doubt everyone did what you mentioned) yielded the most classic beats we've ever heard in the genre.

Great art is concerned with the 'why', not the 'how'. Generic nikkas focus on 'how' to the exclusion of the 'why'. Forgetting that the 'why' is what moves people.

Love today's beats and love beats from the 90's too.

It's the lyricism that fell off.

It's NOT only the lyricism. Why the fukk do you think lyricism fell off? It's because the beats started falling off.

99% of hip hop records start with a beat playing. If the beat is trash and doesn't inspire much thought/emotion, the rhymes aren't going to have much thought/emotion. This isn't rocket science.

 

[y que]

trap era is easily going down as the most unimaginative, generic, talentless era in rap

 

[y que]

Hey I've been making music since the late 90s. Production is better now. It kills me how formulamatic nikka's was in the 90s that a lot of you nikkas worship. Take a loop from a record, filter it for a baseline then throw a breakbeat behind it in the 90s then bring back the unfiltered loop for hooks and change ups.

least they weren't using the same weak hi hats/drums over corny repetitive 1-2 bar "original" loops and 808 in every single song

 

[MikeyC]

The booth needs a "real hip hop" section so the rest of us don't have to suffer through these nostalgia threads every single day.

Sig worthy.

 

[Doobie Doo]

least they weren't using the same weak hi hats/drums over corny repetitive 1-2 bar "original" loops and 808 in every single song

Same formula as the 90s. Only difference is it wasnt an original loop, u had to clear a sample

 

[Chip Skylark]

Travis Scotts Maria I'm Drunk is one of the best produced songs as of late. From the song structure to the actual beat.

Lupe Fiascos No Scratches is another. Simply great instrumentation.

Logics paradise is another.

A lot of people think a beat is best from the bass line but it goes far beyond that.

 

[y que]

Same formula as the 90s. Only difference is it wasnt an original loop, u had to clear a sample

naw there was still more work and creativity

had to find those samples and drums that sound right

all of todays stuff literally sounds like loops made from sounds in a generic trap music sound kit/pack

 

[noumena]

In answer to your question OP, only few can. Modern hip hop fans aren't interested in soul for the most part and certainly can't identify it. Look at what most on the Coli like: generic bullshyt, whether mainstream or underground.

Clams Casino from 2010-2011 had the most soul I've heard in a producer in a long ass time.



Also known as "Demons" for ASAP Rocky (Deflections in 3, 2, 1....)

Regarding Antidote, I actually like that beat. Is it addictive? Not really. memorable with a ton of soul? Nah.







This is why I laugh when Coli posters act like Live.Love.ASAP isn't special I'm like: "what planet are you on?" Live.Love.ASAP is the classic that this generation is always looking for, and have actually made.

There's stuff on there that people will always remember. The first time I heard the beat for "Leaf" I was like:

OP, it's an issue of: most people are generic and champion generic shyt. It's the reality of life. They're followers. They need leaders to tell them what's hot. Sometimes those leaders have good intentions in mind and will actually lead with great art. Other times, those leaders will have bad intentions and will pander with weak art to get that short-term bread. Is what it is

Sounds like you've got a good ear. Can you please put me on to some Honorable C Note and Tarentino stuff? Their best shyt. I know C Note did Ms, which was one of the better beats on ALLA.



sounds like the Skyfall beat, which Metro did a year back

Yeah Live Love definitely is a classic.

Tarentino did March Madness which I know you aint a future fan but

that instrumental is undeniable to me. On some futuristic SNES.

And yeah spaghetti factory came around the same time so I assume Metro was either gliding off that song or he made it prior.



How many songs like this come out for trap artists in this gen? Barely any. Southside is having a resurgence of good beats recently though.